Safe Standing Roadshow coming to Leicester

[Macky]

So the club should bow to ensure the safety of people who are wilfully disobeying the rules?

They should all be rounded up and thrown into jail. A special jail with no seats. Society as we know it will collapse around our ears if people don't just blindly obey every single rule laid down for us by our betters

 

[Billyjof]

I think that people will believe that those who want the rules to change should first acknowledge what the present rules are and not seek to confuse others into understanding that they are more draconian than they actually are.

Easy there, I'm not seeking to do anything like that. I explained in a previous post that my point was "badly put together".

I wasn't seriously stating that giving someone passage was against the "rules", or trying to persuade mere mortals that this was so.

What are your thoughts on safe standing Boc?

 

[Matt_B]

They should all be rounded up and thrown into jail. A special jail with no seats. Society as we know it will collapse around our ears if people don't just blindly obey every single rule laid down for us by our betters

My point is that if you are going to go against the rules then don't whinge if you get hurt or in trouble.

 

[SJN-Fox]

I seem to recall, some time ago, that the current Government made it quite clear that they have no intention of allowing a return to standing at football matches.

 

[Matt_B]

They should all be rounded up and thrown into jail. A special jail with no seats. Society as we know it will collapse around our ears if people don't just blindly obey every single rule laid down for us by our betters

I am wary of any people that want to break rules and laws for their own end, once you allow some to be broken you have to draw the line somewhere and humans are incapable of doing that without prejudice or selfishness.

 

[Macky]

I am wary of any people that want to break rules and laws for their own end, once you allow some to be broken you have to draw the line somewhere and humans are incapable of doing that without prejudice or selfishness.

Shoot them then if they dare to disobey. Shoot them dead before somebody ends up breaking a nail or something.
I'm going to run around and around in circles until a politician assures me that they are drafting up some new legislation to deal with this heinous problem.

 

[bocadillo]

What are your thoughts on safe standing Boc?

My thoughts?

I am of an age where I have stood at matches far more than I have sat. I have seen a lot of dangerous standing and I believe that seating for all has made football grounds much more safe.

I worry about the behaviour of many of those who stand at football matches and if I were standing in the safe-standing lobby, I would worry about their motive for joining me there.


It's a bit like that argument for the away fans being sited next to the Kop. Many say that it would improve the atmosphere but most would say that it would be likely to increase the incidence of bad behaviour. You can never be sure of everybody's motives.

 

[FryattFox]

My thoughts?

I am of an age where I struggle to stand up.

And I don't think any of those pesky kids should stand up either.

Grrrrrr...

Don't be so harsh on yourself Boc; you're as young as (the person) you feel.

:boy_hug:

 

[Matt_B]

Shoot them then if they dare to disobey. Shoot them dead before somebody ends up breaking a nail or something.
I'm going to run around and around in circles until a politician assures me that they are drafting up some new legislation to deal with this heinous problem.

So if people decided that it was in their best interest to go around stealing you would be in favour of allowing them? It's only a rule after all.

 

[Macky]

So if people decided that it was in their best interest to go around stealing you would be in favour of allowing them? It's only a rule after all.

Aaaaw look at the ickle stawman

 

[Billyjof]

My thoughts?

I am of an age where I have stood at matches far more than I have sat. I have seen a lot of dangerous standing and I believe that seating for all has made football grounds much more safe.

I worry about the behaviour of many of those who stand at football matches and if I were standing in the safe-standing lobby, I would worry about their motive for joining me there.


It's a bit like that argument for the away fans being sited next to the Kop. Many say that it would improve the atmosphere but most would say that it would be likely to increase the incidence of bad behaviour. You can never be sure of everybody's motives.

With regards to safety, stadiums on the whole have vastly improved since the terraced days of the 90s and before. This rail design they are championing would prevent crushes occuring.

The behaviour issue is something I fear will always be a problem. Technology has now become a real tool in preventing known trouble makers entering stadia, though policing I'm sure is a cost that many clubs would be happy to reduce. Having a seat is of course a much the easier way of keeping tabs on people.

 

[Matt_B]

Aaaaw look at the ickle stawman

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Eh?

 

[Mawsley]

Eh?

He's pointing out that your response was fatuous.

 

[bocadillo]

He's pointing out that your response was fatuous.

Does that make it a fatuous response to a fatuous response?

 

[Han]

Just a thought, having seats helps to ensure there are the right amount of people in each area of the ground, avoiding over crowding and the dangers that come with it. With these railed seating areas it would be far too easy for people to vacate their own seat/standing area and bunch up together in certain areas. Keeping people where they were supposed to be would be very difficult.

If people love standing so much, why don't they just move to L1?

 

[drew]

Does that make it a fatuous response to a fatuous response?

I suspect more of an observation.

 

[Jeff]

I've renewed my standing season ticket at Carlisle.

When/if they move into their proposed new all seater stadium I'll probably stop going. I prefer to stand anyway, but due to my crap knees it's becoming increasingly painful to sit with my knees bent for 45 minutes at a time. If I couldn't stand I'd probably go to non league games instead.

 

[Matt_B]

Does that make it a fatuous response to a fatuous response?

Or even a fatuous response to a fatuous response to a fatuous response.

 

[Biffa Bacon]

I'm all for family areas in family areas, it can't be ignored that a large portion of away fans, L1 and the back of the Kop stand throughout the match. As Lincs said it can be dangerous during goal celebrations. I have only experienced falling over seats at away games where fans don't tend to take their allotted seat.

Does this type of standing increase capacity or keep it the same? From the design I can't see it increasing much.

I was always under the impression that room for an extra tier was designed into the west stand and planning permission was approved for this. Not that it is likely to happen any time soon.

The east stand was designed to take an extra tier but it cannot have a second tier because the foundations are not deep enough, to build the east stand up they have to knock it down and start again, hilarious but true.

 

[Lboro fox]

The east stand was designed to take an extra tier but it cannot have a second tier because the foundations are not deep enough, to build the east stand up they have to knock it down and start again, hilarious but true.

The depth of the foundations rarely has anything to do with their capacity unless the building is on a piled foundation. Even if this was the case a decent Engineer could get round the problem I am sure.