Student Power

[fosseboy83]

yeah the country's crying out for History graduates

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OI!

my degree in history and politics lead to career in fiinance:icon_lol:

 

[Mawsley]

Damn.

My tap in the downstairs bathroom is leaking - but before I can fix it I need to know whether Thomas Tresham avoided death through payments to the Queen or whether he lied about his Catholicism.

If only there were a 24hr emergency historian I could call out to fix this.

 

[Darth Vodka]

OI!

my degree in history and politics lead to career in fiinance:icon_lol:

you mean after three years of getting qualified as an accountant?

 

[Ian Marshall]

yeah the country's crying out for History graduates

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I completely take your point.

Without being defensive, I do think that each of the degrees mentions do require certain skills and I like to think that my history degree suggests (it certainly doesn't prove alone) that I am able to interpret, understand and analyse information and attempt to come to a fairly solid conclusion.

I never thought that my degree would guarantee me a job though and was happy to work from the bottom of an industry that in all industry, I'd never considered working in until the opportunity (read: necessity) arose.

 

[Macky]

Damn.

My tap in the downstairs bathroom is leaking - but before I can fix it I need to know whether Thomas Tresham avoided death through payments to the Queen or whether he lied about his Catholicism.

If only there were a 24hr emergency historian I could call out to fix this.

Be careful if you get an emergency historian out of the Yellow Pages. We called one out when one of our sockets kept tripping everything out whenever anything was plugged into it. I asked him about the economic and societal pressures resulting from the Corn laws and about the resulting civil unrest and dissent, but he just shrugged and said "We don't cover that period, we specialise in 1870 ~ Second world war".

****ing waste of time he was.

 

[Ian Marshall]

Damn.

My tap in the downstairs bathroom is leaking - but before I can fix it I need to know whether Thomas Tresham avoided death through payments to the Queen or whether he lied about his Catholicism.

If only there were a 24hr emergency historian I could call out to fix this.

A good point and well made.

I do think all this pro-'the trades' stuff recently is in danger of pushing too many people in to the trades and in 10 years or so, there will be loads of trained plumbers etc lacking work.

Just a thought.

As for history - I really should have realised that it was an interest of mine and not one that warranted 3 years of my life and thousands of pounds worth of 'investment'.

 

[Mawsley]

If I were to go back to university again I would study 'Gay history with psychology'.

 

[bocadillo]

yeah the country's crying out for History graduates

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It's clear from what IM writes that he recognises this; his later comment that he is the worst kind of snob emphasises it.

 

[Siouxsie]

you mean after three years of getting qualified as an accountant?

I did the same though - a 4 year language degree before then starting again to become a chartered accountant.

(I have worked in a bank in Germany and an accounts office in France so there is some overlap.)

I don't regret the route I took at all even if it did take slightly longer.

Having said that few (none?) of the top accountancy firms will take you on now without a degree and having an accountancy degree doesn't give you much advantage so you might as well study something you enjoy first. I still believe there is something to be said for education for education's sake and would hate to see the demise of history / English / non vocational etc degrees as those graduates have generally learnt good general skills of critical thinking and analysis.


(I hate media studies though for no rational reason)

 

[SwedeFox]

Being a former journalist student - thus part of the lowest scum in the world, the loathsome media students - I would like to say it with a poem:

A university degree

Is not a job guarantee

 

[Hazzman]

A good point and well made.

I do think all this pro-'the trades' stuff recently is in danger of pushing too many people in to the trades and in 10 years or so, there will be loads of trained plumbers etc lacking work.

It's true. Hardly any of my brothers mates went onto Uni and decided to do the apprentice route but it's a dying option and many struggled to gain placements. A lot of companies can't afford the financial risk of insurance and study fees only to see an apprentice take big money once the apprenticeship is complete. Then there's the construction big boys who no longer even hire their own contracted operatives instead using small gangs of sub-contractors. Infact the biggest company with their own contracted staff just went bust.

What is really lacking is a number of trainee schemes for 'medium professional jobs'. It's almost a business of who you know, not what you know. I believe accountancy is one of the few occupations which has it's own inner route path.

 

[Motown Fox]

Students in Sheffield protested yesterday

and I've just heard on the local radio that some Students are currently occupying one of the University buildings and staging some sort of sit-in.


They are being very radical though Sheffield Uni's Professor White (previously at Leicester Uni) has been on the radio commenting on what they have been doing and has revealed that the Students (approx 30/40 are left) were there all night and they have asked if they could have.....................











a hoover:icon_eek:

 

[Willlow]

All these people protesting about their right to go University, yet skip college/school to do so :icon_roll:icon_lol:

 

[Willlow]

A sort of retard tax if you will?

I think 'special' tax sounds a little nicer :icon_wink

 

[Han]

I didn't go to University but would have if it wasn't for one or two things that led me to leaving my A-level course(s). Now that it's all happened I am pretty happy that I didn't. At the time I had no idea what I was going to, or wanted to, do for a career.

I left college, got an office junior job at 18 and now i'm a qualified financial adviser (25).

When I was at school I thought that A-levels were only for the 'brainy kids' (like me :icon_lol. How wrong was I!? It soon became apparent that it was relatively easy to breeze through college and into (a) university, and therefore there was little motivation to make a decision on your future.

University is all well and good if you know what you want to do, and the degree will help you on your way but it has become the norm now. Too many students to go with the flow without actually thinking hard about it. The debt and jobless years soon make them realise that they may have made a mistake.


My point? Kids should be taught all of the options, not just the generally accepted A-Level/University option. Maybe if that was the case I'd now be doing something I actually wanted to do!

 

[drummindefender]

good post Han.


Its also apparent alot more have gone in the last couple of years due to the current jobs market-might as well go in to education for a bit and hope its picked up by the time you come out