TB Opinion Poll

Who would you vote for if the General Election were today

  • Labour

    Votes: 14 24.6%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 9 15.8%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 21 36.8%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 3 5.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 2 3.5%
  • SNP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • BNP

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • None

    Votes: 5 8.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • Total voters
    57
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I think Homey you are confusing expenditure with headcount.

I would find it hard to believe that 3% of the workforce would incur expenditure of 14% of the overall NHS budget, given the overhead costs that hospitals, PCTs and ambulance services etc. have to incur - albeit these figures include 'administration' as well which I suspect covers just about everyone in the whole organisation bar clinical staff

Just making the point - I still personally believe that the amount spent on 'management' in the NHS is not excessive by any means. Anyone who has seen at close hands how an acute NHS Trust operates knows perfectly well that it is not overrun with bone idle, overpaid managers
 
well if we had the Glass-Steagull Act back the government would let investment banks fail and the people's money would be safer

the Republicans repealed it in 1999 and gave the thumbs up so that investment banks can play with deposits of savers again for the first time since...er the depression

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-Steagall_Act

In terms of regulation, I have no problem with banks responsibly lending investors money. Where my problems began and ended were the proliferation of mortgages which were interest only, 100%+, buy to let and the mother of them all....self certified. Any lending which does not encourage repayment of the debt is IMO reckless.

I'll wager that defaults on mortgages taken out this year are the lowest on record since deposits have been required again.
 
In terms of regulation, I have no problem with banks responsibly lending investors money. Where my problems began and ended were the proliferation of mortgages which were interest only, 100%+, buy to let and the mother of them all....self certified. Any lending which does not encourage repayment of the debt is IMO reckless.

I'll wager that defaults on mortgages taken out this year are the lowest on record since deposits have been required again.

The first sensible post in this thread.
 
I'm not at all sure where this is from or why you are quoting it. It does nothing to support the assertions you made in post #23 which is what this strand of the thread is all about.


But we have 2.5 million unemployed now (higher than when they came into office) and more to come when the inevitable cuts come, whoever wins the election. We've just had the longest boom in history and long term unemployment never moved. Labour have ****ed up big time and deserve to be kicked out.

Wrong. Actual figure is 1.6m which is less than in 1997. Also, those on inactive benefits is going down - something that has never happened in previouis recessions. Long term unemployment is rising now because of the recession but is it miles lower than in the 80s and 90s. It is way lower now that in 1997.

Where do you get your facts from - the Daily Mail?

Maybe he gets them from the Government

The latest figures for the number of unemployed people does actually come in at 2.45 million

The 1.6 million figure relates to the number of people claiming JSA

Long term unemployment figures are now the highest they have been since 1997

Perhaps he deserves what you call "condescending remarks" (in fact, there was only one of them) if he does not compare like with like and thereby draws an incorrect conclusion - much as the Daily Mail does.

I know how you like to correct people so I'll just set you straight.
I'll admit I forgot to add a link. I'll put that right now http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8571625.stm As you can see the figures come from the BBC not the Daily Mail (maybe they're just a bunch of right wing propagandists as well) The figures prove that unemployment is higher than 1997 just as I said.

As for drawing the wrong conclusions I'd have thought that records levels of debt and high unemployment was a bit of a **** up and deserving of criticism but it's all subjective.
 
I know how you like to correct people so I'll just set you straight.

You still haven't produced a single quote which backs up what you said in that first post. But people will have made their own minds up about your contribution by now so this is my last word on it.
 
What do you think about the turnout? Are people less likely to vote as politicians' credibility has sunk (the scandals last year etc) or will people appreciate that it is a tight race with a lot at stake?
 
What do you think about the turnout? Are people less likely to vote as politicians' credibility has sunk (the scandals last year etc) or will people appreciate that it is a tight race with a lot at stake?


The former.

Apathy rules UK!
 
What do you think about the turnout? Are people less likely to vote as politicians' credibility has sunk (the scandals last year etc) or will people appreciate that it is a tight race with a lot at stake?

I think the turnout will be higher this time as the outcome ( and the outcome in a fair number of constituencies ) is a lot more uncertain this time round.
 
Ok according to the metro (dunno how reliable that is) they will be

April 15th ITV on domestic affairs
April 22nd Sky News on foreign affairs
April 29th BBC on the economy

source
 
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