Scodger Cubs
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To be honest i didn't think R. Kelly would last the end of the season. I thought Milan would bring in a better known manager to attract some "big" players.
I try not to look back in anger,He was a decent enough bloke and I would think he still has a future as a Manager if he toughens up a bit.Don't quite get all the hate on here aimed at him
Don't think anyone hates him as a person HF, just when he wears his hat saying "football manager" at Leicester City.
Theres been some nasty stuff posted about him.
The only thing I'll miss is all the cash i made by backing against us....
Before tissues get taken out and dabbed against sore eyes lets remember a few things about our ex-manager:
I think the vilification of Kelly has to stop at the point when people start talking about the man rather than the manager.
I agree with the view that our survival last season had little to do with Kelly's skills and much more to do with the sense of relief on the departure of Levein. It also seems like Ray Graydon's departure further exposed Kelly's limitations.
I don't know where the view that Kelly is a decent coach and not a manager comes from. From what I have seen there is no evidence whatsoever that he is a good coach and I think he would be best trying to develop a new career outside professional football.
He may or not be a nice man....but as a manager he was worse than useless and whilst he didn't waste the resources that Peter Taylor did.....I suspect that given serious money that he would not have made good use of it.
At the end of the day, I don't think we will be relegated and I don't even believe that MM thought we would be relegated with Kelly - as Jeff has pointed out on previous threads the statistics suggest that we would have scraped clear. However, a lot of people have rightly stirred things up and worked up the fear of relegation and MM has taken the moment to do the deed.
Good riddance to Kelly - but I just hope that a re-cycled Nigel Worthington is short term only and that MM is going to raise the game for next season.
I think the vilification of Kelly has to stop at the point when people start talking about the man rather than the manager.
I agree with the view that our survival last season had little to do with Kelly's skills and much more to do with the sense of relief on the departure of Levein. It also seems like Ray Graydon's departure further exposed Kelly's limitations.
I don't know where the view that Kelly is a decent coach and not a manager comes from. From what I have seen there is no evidence whatsoever that he is a good coach and I think he would be best trying to develop a new career outside professional football.
He may or not be a nice man....but as a manager he was worse than useless and whilst he didn't waste the resources that Peter Taylor did.....I suspect that given serious money that he would not have made good use of it.
At the end of the day, I don't think we will be relegated and I don't even believe that MM thought we would be relegated with Kelly - as Jeff has pointed out on previous threads the statistics suggest that we would have scraped clear. However, a lot of people have rightly stirred things up and worked up the fear of relegation and MM has taken the moment to do the deed.
Good riddance to Kelly - but I just hope that a re-cycled Nigel Worthington is short term only and that MM is going to raise the game for next season.
I think the vilification of Kelly has to stop at the point when people start talking about the man rather than the manager.
I agree with the view that our survival last season had little to do with Kelly's skills and much more to do with the sense of relief on the departure of Levein. It also seems like Ray Graydon's departure further exposed Kelly's limitations.
I don't know where the view that Kelly is a decent coach and not a manager comes from. From what I have seen there is no evidence whatsoever that he is a good coach and I think he would be best trying to develop a new career outside professional football.
He may or not be a nice man....but as a manager he was worse than useless and whilst he didn't waste the resources that Peter Taylor did.....I suspect that given serious money that he would not have made good use of it.
At the end of the day, I don't think we will be relegated and I don't even believe that MM thought we would be relegated with Kelly - as Jeff has pointed out on previous threads the statistics suggest that we would have scraped clear. However, a lot of people have rightly stirred things up and worked up the fear of relegation and MM has taken the moment to do the deed.
Good riddance to Kelly - but I just hope that a re-cycled Nigel Worthington is short term only and that MM is going to raise the game for next season.
I agree with most of what you have said - but who can blame Kelly for taking the opportunity that the Board presented him with?
I also don't buy-in to him being a good coach (as I said in an earlier post). Where is the evidience in player improvement since he came here more than 2 years ago? - most of them appear to have gone backwards!
His style is obviously better suited to the kids than those of our squad currently masquerading as adults. Maybe he will learn from this experience and be a better coach or manager, starting again at a lower level. Personally I wish him well and hope Worthington is for 5 games only (he seems to be up for it anyway).
I think the vilification of Kelly has to stop at the point when people start talking about the man rather than the manager.
I agree with the view that our survival last season had little to do with Kelly's skills and much more to do with the sense of relief on the departure of Levein. It also seems like Ray Graydon's departure further exposed Kelly's limitations.
I don't know where the view that Kelly is a decent coach and not a manager comes from. From what I have seen there is no evidence whatsoever that he is a good coach and I think he would be best trying to develop a new career outside professional football.
He may or not be a nice man....but as a manager he was worse than useless and whilst he didn't waste the resources that Peter Taylor did.....I suspect that given serious money that he would not have made good use of it.
At the end of the day, I don't think we will be relegated and I don't even believe that MM thought we would be relegated with Kelly - as Jeff has pointed out on previous threads the statistics suggest that we would have scraped clear. However, a lot of people have rightly stirred things up and worked up the fear of relegation and MM has taken the moment to do the deed.
Good riddance to Kelly - but I just hope that a re-cycled Nigel Worthington is short term only and that MM is going to raise the game for next season.
P | Pld | Pts | |
1 | Liverpool | 21 | 50 |
2 | Arsenal | 22 | 44 |
3 | Nottm F | 22 | 44 |
4 | Chelsea | 22 | 40 |
5 | Manchester C | 22 | 38 |
6 | Newcastle | 22 | 38 |
7 | Bournemouth | 22 | 37 |
8 | Aston Villa | 22 | 36 |
9 | Brighton | 22 | 34 |
10 | Fulham | 22 | 33 |
11 | Brentford | 22 | 28 |
12 | Palace | 22 | 27 |
13 | Manchester U | 22 | 26 |
14 | West Ham | 22 | 26 |
15 | Tottenham | 22 | 24 |
16 | Everton | 21 | 20 |
17 | Wolves | 22 | 16 |
18 | Ipswich | 22 | 16 |
19 | Leicester | 22 | 14 |
20 | Southampton | 22 | 6 |