The Apathy Thread

[Joe_Fox]

I’ve been job hunting for a couple of months now.

A few weeks ago an agency sent me to an interview for a job I could have done backwards with my eyes shut. It was a fair bit lower paid than I really need to pay my bills, but I thought I’d give it a go. It’s just a few months, after all.

So the employer interviewed, by all accounts, multiple excellent candidates over a period of a couple of weeks, including me. The feedback I got specifically was very positive. I had a good feel about it too, the interviewers were decent enough, seemed pretty switched on.

Ultimately, however, they decided to hire… nobody, and then immediately re-listed the job. Total ****ing waste of everyone’s time.

Would anyone be surprised to learn this interview was with LCFC?

Maybe they didn't appreciate you calling yourself an excellent candidate?

 

[OzzieFox]

Here they say "Yeh-Nah" which kind of sums me up. I'm not quite resigned to going down yet. Tbh, the only reason I don't want to relegated is because you don't get the coverage in the lower leagues. I did live back home when we were in league 1 and that was quite a happy time. I loved some of those away days at real football grounds, and at home singing 1-0 in your big day out, 1-0 down, who gives a ****, etc. My most memorable games were the local derby's. It doesn't matter where you play, or how good our squad is, when you win its the best day ever and when you lose it ****s up your whole weekend.

 

[Blue Maniac]

Maybe they didn't appreciate you calling yourself an excellent candidate?

Ehh you get what you pay for

 

[camberwell fox]

Fixes Reform Trust email:

Dear All,

Update (1 February 2025)

The Motion to make Board members accountable to members.

Naturally we are disappointed with the result of the rule change vote - and we are particularly disappointed that the board chose to oppose this change. They should all be ashamed of themselves... clinging to their positions and avoiding accountability.

This vote was a big opportunity to attract new members to a democratic trust offering accountability. It was sad to see the board believing they each have so much wisdom that they should continue to represent fans even where the fans wish them to go. It is clear we have some way to go to change the view of those who say the trust is a “cozy club”.... but we accept the challenge, as now more than ever, we need a strong and democratic trust.

We would like to thank all those who supported the motion. This issue will not go away - as support grows we are sure this motion will become a part of our rules. It's about democracy and accountability.

The trust have proposed a “governance review” – yet that is likely to take some time – and we are sure that the Trust will use it to oppose any further attempts to change the rules of the Trust. Let’s see.


The current situation

On a wider note we have made good progress this year - with Becky, Harry and Jamie on the board - Bason is no longer the chair... and we are encouraged by the chairmanship of Lynn and Steve – however it is clear that there is still a majority of board members resisting change and accountability.

We do expect further board seats to become available and this will enable us to shift the balance of views on the board… so that the Trust becomes a campaigning and challenging force that will hold the club to account and represent the views of the fans.

We should all encourage our friends to join the trust and to join the email list of the reform group (email [email protected] ) – this will strengthen our position.

We set out the following issues for our focus:

A Challenging Trust: Many of the current action by the trust are “internal” (computer systems, organisation, membership etc.) yet we believe that most fans wish to see the Trust standing up and challenging the Club. To this end we believe that the Trust must be prepared to publically criticise the Club and champion a number of fan issues – PR is key.

The fear of losing favour: The Trust has practiced a policy of not publically arguing with the club for fear of being “cold shouldered” – yet this approach has not worked. In fact the club has a coercive relationship with the Trust – it is time for the Trust to stand up to the Club.


The FAB: In September 2924 the club sprang rule changes on the Trust relating to the control of the FAB. The Trust admit that they were divided in how to respond and eventually caved-in and accepted the club’s proposals. This was a mistake – it was in fact a moment to show the club that the Trust was not going to be pushed around. As a result we now have a FAB excessively controlled by the Club - and the club will now say that some discussion topics are only for it’s tame FAB. As a result we believe that nothing positive can come from the FAB in its current form and that the Trust should speak out and say so. The trust should complain about the club’s behaviour to the FSA and publically.

Working with other fan Groups: We believe that he Trust must increase the frequency of meetings with other fan groups so that it can co-ordinate activity and issues.

Membership: We remain keen to see a more radical approach to membership costs and renewals so that the Trust can increase membership. It is clear from the motion vote that the email database of the Trust needs urgent attention. Similarly a better fan survey should identify fan opinions and popular issues.

Board positions: While reform minded board members can now press for reform, we will seek to place further board members on to the board and may well return to the rule changes required to increase the accountability of the board. For those on the board who seek to block reform… their days will be numbered. At worst two or three seats will be contested at the next AGM – these will be filled by reform candidates – by the AGM we will hold the ring!

Organisation of the Reform group

When we started the reform group we set out a vision to change the trust to a campaigning group representing all fans and holding the club to account. Many fans joined the trust to help and we are grateful for the support.

It is now important to understand that Jamie, Harry and Becky and bound by the board’s code of contact and so it is difficult for them to publically criticise the board. We would like those of you with time to consider working with Simon on making responses on social media and forums and also to consider joining trust working groups. Please think about it and email [email protected].

Thank you for your support – please renew you membership of the trust and urge you friends to join. Tell them to email [email protected] to join the Reform email list. We are making progress.
Thanks,
Foxes Trust Reform

 

[SilverFox]

Fixes Reform Trust email:

Dear All,

Update (1 February 2025)

The Motion to make Board members accountable to members.

Naturally we are disappointed with the result of the rule change vote - and we are particularly disappointed that the board chose to oppose this change. They should all be ashamed of themselves... clinging to their positions and avoiding accountability.

This vote was a big opportunity to attract new members to a democratic trust offering accountability. It was sad to see the board believing they each have so much wisdom that they should continue to represent fans even where the fans wish them to go. It is clear we have some way to go to change the view of those who say the trust is a “cozy club”.... but we accept the challenge, as now more than ever, we need a strong and democratic trust.

We would like to thank all those who supported the motion. This issue will not go away - as support grows we are sure this motion will become a part of our rules. It's about democracy and accountability.

The trust have proposed a “governance review” – yet that is likely to take some time – and we are sure that the Trust will use it to oppose any further attempts to change the rules of the Trust. Let’s see.


The current situation

On a wider note we have made good progress this year - with Becky, Harry and Jamie on the board - Bason is no longer the chair... and we are encouraged by the chairmanship of Lynn and Steve – however it is clear that there is still a majority of board members resisting change and accountability.

We do expect further board seats to become available and this will enable us to shift the balance of views on the board… so that the Trust becomes a campaigning and challenging force that will hold the club to account and represent the views of the fans.

We should all encourage our friends to join the trust and to join the email list of the reform group (email [email protected] ) – this will strengthen our position.

We set out the following issues for our focus:

A Challenging Trust: Many of the current action by the trust are “internal” (computer systems, organisation, membership etc.) yet we believe that most fans wish to see the Trust standing up and challenging the Club. To this end we believe that the Trust must be prepared to publically criticise the Club and champion a number of fan issues – PR is key.

The fear of losing favour: The Trust has practiced a policy of not publically arguing with the club for fear of being “cold shouldered” – yet this approach has not worked. In fact the club has a coercive relationship with the Trust – it is time for the Trust to stand up to the Club.


The FAB: In September 2924 the club sprang rule changes on the Trust relating to the control of the FAB. The Trust admit that they were divided in how to respond and eventually caved-in and accepted the club’s proposals. This was a mistake – it was in fact a moment to show the club that the Trust was not going to be pushed around. As a result we now have a FAB excessively controlled by the Club - and the club will now say that some discussion topics are only for it’s tame FAB. As a result we believe that nothing positive can come from the FAB in its current form and that the Trust should speak out and say so. The trust should complain about the club’s behaviour to the FSA and publically.

Working with other fan Groups: We believe that he Trust must increase the frequency of meetings with other fan groups so that it can co-ordinate activity and issues.

Membership: We remain keen to see a more radical approach to membership costs and renewals so that the Trust can increase membership. It is clear from the motion vote that the email database of the Trust needs urgent attention. Similarly a better fan survey should identify fan opinions and popular issues.

Board positions: While reform minded board members can now press for reform, we will seek to place further board members on to the board and may well return to the rule changes required to increase the accountability of the board. For those on the board who seek to block reform… their days will be numbered. At worst two or three seats will be contested at the next AGM – these will be filled by reform candidates – by the AGM we will hold the ring!

Organisation of the Reform group

When we started the reform group we set out a vision to change the trust to a campaigning group representing all fans and holding the club to account. Many fans joined the trust to help and we are grateful for the support.

It is now important to understand that Jamie, Harry and Becky and bound by the board’s code of contact and so it is difficult for them to publically criticise the board. We would like those of you with time to consider working with Simon on making responses on social media and forums and also to consider joining trust working groups. Please think about it and email [email protected].

Thank you for your support – please renew you membership of the trust and urge you friends to join. Tell them to email [email protected] to join the Reform email list. We are making progress.
Thanks,
Foxes Trust Reform

What’s the context of all of this? Reading between the lines, did a bunch of people decide the trust wasn’t fit for purpose, but the board are resisting change?

 

[camberwell fox]

What’s the context of all of this? Reading between the lines, did a bunch of people decide the trust wasn’t fit for purpose, but the board are resisting change?

Exactly that.

 

[SilverFox]

I’m still waiting for them to reply to my message. I can’t believe they managed to find the motivation to oppose something.

 

[Miles Away]

I hope you all give them a ****ing bollocking every chance you get.

 

[Blue Maniac]

I’m encouraged that the Fixes Reform Trust is still operating in 2924 and have apparently mastered time travel

 

[camberwell fox]

I’m encouraged that the Fixes Reform Trust is still operating in 2924 and have apparently mastered time travel

Rather than just picking up tiny typos from other posters on the forum, perhaps every now and then you might choose to post something interesting or insightful?

 

[Blue Maniac]

Rather than just picking up tiny typos from other posters on the forum, perhaps every now and then you might choose to post something interesting or insightful?

no