Things That Make You Go "Hmmm"

[Darth Vodka]

How would you categorise whales and dolphins?

oh yeah most of western europe came into contact with dolpins and whales every day

:icon_roll

and the lions and hyenas

 

[Macky]

Lions, tigers, sharks and hyenas?

weren't widely known of in the developing west

 

[RHYDAL]

The question was how you would categorise them. But if that's too difficult.:icon_roll

 

[Darth Vodka]

The question was how you would categorise them. But if that's too difficult.:icon_roll

the same as Linneaus, mammals

 

[Macky]

if the neanderthals were still around, prehaps we would see how very similar we are to the species on a sliding scale, but no, in the developing west there were only four types of animals: humans, pets, food and vermin

The question was how you would categorise them. But if that's too difficult.:icon_roll

Too difficult??? WTF?

Thanks for clearing that up RHYDAL, so the question is how would I categorise them based on DVs scale, I would have to say vermin, possibly food.
But I'm pretty sure that if I had have been alive then, I wouldn't have given exotic African animals too much consideration.

 

[Darth Vodka]

Too difficult??? WTF?

Thanks for clearing that up RHYDAL, so the question is how would I categorise them based on DVs scale, I would have to say vermin, possibly food.
But I'm pretty sure that if I had have been alive then, I wouldn't have given exotic African animals too much consideration.

mr macky

you misunderstand, mr rhydal wanted my opinion on how i would classify animals, given half a chance

who on earth would want to know YOUR opinion?

next question....is it how i organise my sock drawer?

 

[Macky]

mr macky

you misunderstand, mr rhydal wanted my opinion on how i would classify animals, given half a chance

who on earth would want to know YOUR opinion?

It was very unclear from Mr capital letters and it did strike me [or should that be stricke?] as a strange request but I was keen to explore it as nobody had ever asked for my opinion before.

Actually, it was a bizarre question even if directed at you.

 

[RHYDAL]

The point I'm trying to get to is that to my mind there are only two categories of animals i.e. humans and non humans.
The category of pet and vermin are just ways of describing an animal who is a potential food source, but who's worth is considered in relation to it's greater food supply potential, be that positive in the case of pets (guard/ sheep dogs, horses) or negative in the case of vermin (rats, foxes etc.).
Goes back to the old chestnut of mine "Dolphin Friendly Tuna". In that respect dolphins are vermin not food. If you don't care about the millions of tuna which suffocate so you've got a filling for your jacket potato (MHS), then why would a few dolphins meeting a gorey death at the hands of oriental fishermen be a bother?

 

[Macky]

The point I'm trying to get to is that to my mind there are only two categories of animals i.e. humans and non humans.
The category of pet and vermin are just ways of describing an animal who is a potential food source, but who's worth is considered in relation to it's greater food supply potential, be that positive in the case of pets (guard/ sheep dogs, horses) or negative in the case of vermin (rats, foxes etc.).

I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make.
What is there to gain by not further classifying an animal based on it's value to you as a human?

Goes back to the old chestnut of mine "Dolphin Friendly Tuna". In that respect dolphins are vermin not food. If you don't care about the millions of tuna which suffocate so you've got a filling for your jacket potato (MHS), then why would a few dolphins meeting a gorey death at the hands of oriental fishermen be a bother?

It's only really a bother if you aren't also eating the dolphins, make them food not vermin.

 

[MHS]

If you don't care about the millions of tuna which suffocate so you've got a filling for your jacket potato (MHS)

Bloody hell, even the Welshie is at it! :icon_redf :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

 

[RHYDAL]

I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make.
What is there to gain by not further classifying an animal based on it's value to you as a human?
It's only really a bother if you aren't also eating the dolphins, make them food not vermin.

The original question was 'why is it murder to kill humans but not other species' and I would argue that the question answers itself from my point of view. It's not murder cos they're not humans. Killing any animal for food or to protect food is acceptable, and whilst killing animals for sport is somewhat pointless, it is no more futile than protecting any particular species based on some sentimental hierarchy or classification.

 

[From Gradel to Grave]

Bloody hell, even the Welshie is at it! :icon_redf :icon_lol: :icon_lol: mmm tuna *drools*

Can't stop can you MHS? :icon_wink

 

[Macky]

The original question was 'why is it murder to kill humans but not other species' and I would argue that the question answers itself from my point of view. It's not murder cos they're not humans. Killing any animal for food or to protect food is acceptable, and whilst killing animals for sport is somewhat pointless, it is no more futile than protecting any particular species based on some sentimental hierarchy or classification.

There was an original question?

Has anybody tried dolphin? Is it fishy or mammally?

All this talk of animals is making me hungry, time for breakfast.

 

[RHYDAL]

There was an original question?

Has anybody tried dolphin? Is it fishy or mammally?

All this talk of animals is making me hungry, time for breakfast.

You're being flipp-ent now.

 

[Boy Genius]

There was an original question?

Has anybody tried dolphin? Is it fishy or mammally?

All this talk of animals is making me hungry, time for breakfast.

its more like Tuna.

 

[newtonfox]

its more like Tuna.

but a bit more rubbery IMO

 

[Macky]

You're being flipp-ent now.

It was an accident, I didn't do it on porpoise.

 

[lazzer]

macky why dont you use that well known gaelic phrase?

WHALE
OIL
BEEF
HOOKED

 

[Boy Genius]

macky why dont you use that well known gaelic phrase?

WHALE
OIL
BEEF
HOOKED

the old ones are the best ones, so I am told, so I'll just learn off you Lazzer.....:icon_bigg

 

[Boy Genius]

but a bit more rubbery IMO

it was very nice though