We’ve Defied the Odds Before. Get Behind the Lads...

Log in to stop seeing adverts

As the new season begins, instead of being excited and optimistic about what the Premier League may bring after a celebratory return, many Leicester fans are unhappy. Apprehensive. Worried. Frustrated.......


I agree with every word of that statement.

It will be so easy to get on the players/managers back but they're being left in a pretty hopeless situation.

What isn't mentioned at all though is the increasingly obvious need for the supporters to protest against the appalling leadership of the club.

Do you support this? If so, what/where/how/when?
 
What isn't mentioned at all though is the increasingly obvious need for the supporters to protest against the appalling leadership of the club.

Do you support this? If so, what/where/how/when?
The problem here, is that the majority of fans probably don't agree with you.
 
I agree with every word of that statement.

It will be so easy to get on the players/managers back but they're being left in a pretty hopeless situation.

What isn't mentioned at all though is the increasingly obvious need for the supporters to protest against the appalling leadership of the club.

Do you support this? If so, what/where/how/when?
Be very careful what you wish for.
 
Might as well have said “Suck it up, pay your £25 and your ludicrous match day ticket fee, and get on with it, sheeple”
 
It will be so easy to get on the players/managers back but they're being left in a pretty hopeless situation.
Yep, and it’ll happen quickly.

And those people will then claim they were “right about Cooper”, as they’re too dumb to see the bigger picture.
 
Our owners made an error in supporting Rodgers as extensively as they did and betting big on the ambition of competing consistently in Europe. That’s what they said they wanted when they came in, and that’s what they tried to deliver. Along the way we have had enormous success. We have won more silverware than most clubs manage in their history. We have built a world class training facility, and we are still talking about making the stadium an elite sporting venue.

We undoubtedly messed up. It will take time to right itself, but anyone demanding instant gratification in this business has an unrealistically high expectation of just how difficult it is to compete consistently.

I have no doubt that our owners care and are committed. They have written off hundreds of millions. They continue to invest even though our circumstances make it enormously difficult.

All this ‘King Power out’ nonsense is depressing and short sighted. If they go they will pop up somewhere else and they will be successful.

We have zero guarantee that we will find any other owner who could touch the success or commitment to improving infrastructure that we currently have. I cannot think of a single owner of a club our size who has done so much. I can think of a very long list of disastrous other owners. Don’t wish too hard, you could get the next:-

Dai Yongge
Dejphon Chansiri
Vincent Tan
Francesco Becchetti
Sisu Capital
The Venky Family
Hicks and Gillett
Alexandre Gaydamak
Ali al-Faraj
Balram Chainrai
Vladimir Antonov
George Reynolds
Craig Whyte

And these are the immediate ones that spring to mind. I’m sure there are plenty more examples of terrible owners.

It’s going to be difficult for a while, but no amount of protesting suddenly fixes our financial situation. It’ll take time, patience, and acceptance that you can’t always have what you want instantly. We are in a bad place. Let’s stick together and support the club.
 
If they go they will pop up somewhere else and they will be successful.
What have you seen from Top that suggests this? I’d have agreed with you 7 years ago.
 
What have you seen from Top that suggests this? I’d have agreed with you 7 years ago.
I have had my eyes open for the last 10 years. KP Group is not one man. It’s a multi billion dollar company.
 
King Power have made errors throughout their time as owners. Paolo Sousa anyone?

That isn't the issue because as long as you make more good decisions than bad overall, it doesn't really matter. The other factor with King Power is that they've been incredibly lucky. Claudio Ranieri was about 15th choice.

The argument about the hundreds of millions they've 'put in' just doesn't stack up. They bought the club with the expressed desire to promote their brand. They have done this and then some. It has paid off better than any of them could have imagined and is worth huge sums in their home country. The value of King Power has mushroomed since they took over as has their credibility in a country where fortunes can be wiped in a moment. Also, don't forget that LCFC is an asset and the resale value of the club is beyond every single penny they've put in. Therefore, they're very much 'in the black' with their investment.

The problem is not any of this. The problem is that they've lost the plot. All the things they did well in those initial years to build a relationship with Leicester have gone to shit. The structure they built is now the structure that holds us back. The world of football has moved on and we've gone backwards. The problem is that you have to adapt to thrive. Despite internal reviews and scratching of heads, it is quite obvious that they don't recognise the problem.

Sticking as we are will mean that we continue to slide back to what we used to be until their investment in us does actually put them out of pocket. It's fine to look at it all and say that the ride was worthwhile, of course that's true. But when they're long gone, and they will be at some point, we're left with whatever remains.

So trusting them no matter what is not where I am. In fact, those that are doing so are harming their club. Sometimes the supporters of a football club have to give their owners a slap round the face. I think history will show that that time was a couple of years ago.
 
I have had my eyes open for the last 10 years. KP Group is not one man. It’s a multi billion dollar company.
I’m looking forward to singing “KP Group had a dream” on Monday night.
 
Be quiet now

Buy your £70 shirt with the shite logo on, clap your clapper and don’t you dare utter a single sound in dissent

The Foxes Trust said so, so suck it up and be a good boy
 
No one is saying KP is immune from criticism. There is an undercurrent of people wanting to hound them out because they can’t have what they want right now. The problem will need fixing and it isn’t an overnight fix.

Would you agree that the problem that needs fixing has been there for a number of years now? If so, how many more years will you support them before you're ready to act?
 
1
Would you agree that the problem that needs fixing has been there for a number of years now? If so, how many more years will you support them before you're ready to act?
I see a few posts like this. Hardly any of them, including any of yours, quantifies concretely, what the problems that need solving are. Perhaps if they did, people may well agree more.
 
King Power have made errors throughout their time as owners. Paolo Sousa anyone?

That isn't the issue because as long as you make more good decisions than bad overall, it doesn't really matter. The other factor with King Power is that they've been incredibly lucky. Claudio Ranieri was about 15th choice.

The argument about the hundreds of millions they've 'put in' just doesn't stack up. They bought the club with the expressed desire to promote their brand. They have done this and then some. It has paid off better than any of them could have imagined and is worth huge sums in their home country. The value of King Power has mushroomed since they took over as has their credibility in a country where fortunes can be wiped in a moment. Also, don't forget that LCFC is an asset and the resale value of the club is beyond every single penny they've put in. Therefore, they're very much 'in the black' with their investment.

The problem is not any of this. The problem is that they've lost the plot. All the things they did well in those initial years to build a relationship with Leicester have gone to shit. The structure they built is now the structure that holds us back. The world of football has moved on and we've gone backwards. The problem is that you have to adapt to thrive. Despite internal reviews and scratching of heads, it is quite obvious that they don't recognise the problem.

Sticking as we are will mean that we continue to slide back to what we used to be until their investment in us does actually put them out of pocket. It's fine to look at it all and say that the ride was worthwhile, of course that's true. But when they're long gone, and they will be at some point, we're left with whatever remains.

So trusting them no matter what is not where I am. In fact, those that are doing so are harming their club. Sometimes the supporters of a football club have to give their owners a slap round the face. I think history will show that that time was a couple of years ago.
Everyone makes errors. That’s why they put rubbers on pencils. Paolo Sousa was 14 years ago.

Every team also has an element of fortune, but you can’t label all success as luck and all failure as ineptitude. You don’t luckily win league 1, the championship twice, the premier league, the FA Cup and the community shield with several top half finishes and a quarter final of the worlds biggest club competition. That isn’t all luck.

Similarly, failure isn’t down to doing nothing, being inept, or being stupid. There’s one enormous issue that wasn’t addressed and it was that Rodgers twerp. I was very critical he wasn’t removed a year and a half before it finally happened. There’s no question that what he spent landed us here. There’s no question the club put an enormous amount of misplaced faith in him. That is a failing. No doubt. It doesn’t undo all the good things we have done. It sets us back a long way, but not insurmountable if we are patient.

The argument about hundreds of millions of loans they put in but wrote off is documented in our filed accounts. It stacks up. It’s there in black and white. They didn’t have to write off a penny. Not one.

They also didn’t have to build a training ground or plan to develop the rest of our infrastructure. They didn’t have to reinvest transfer funds back into the team while we were in the shit. It’s their company, they could sit on it or declare a nice dividend. They could’ve taken the Sheffield Wednesday approach and said that nothing more was going in, that wages wouldn’t be paid, that if fans thought it was their club so much they should pay the liabilities. They aren’t that kind of owner though.

The value of King Power went from 8 billion to around 1.5 billion because of Covid. They still put money in. At the height of their worst time they wrote off our debt. The company is now worth around 3.5 billion. It’s not double its size. It’s half its size (not even that currently).

We haven’t gone backwards. We were nothing when they came in. Scratching around the half a million transfer fee bracket and declining year on year. I’ll happily take the rain while we try to right what went wrong.

I don’t have blind faith. I acknowledge the mistakes. I think they know about them too, but I don’t see an ownership that has closed shop and turned off the tap.

Hound them out guys. See whether the next one is better, but don’t cry about it when 1) the replacement isn’t what you’d hoped; and 2) our current owners are doing great somewhere else.
 
The structure they built is now the structure that holds us back. The world of football has moved on and we've gone backwards. The problem is that you have to adapt to thrive. Despite internal reviews and scratching of heads, it is quite obvious that they don't recognise the problem.
Perhaps I give KP less credit than they deserve, but my interpretation of history (based on no inside knowledge), is that they hit the absolute jackpot hiring Nigel Pearson whilst still being so green that he could run the football side of the club in the same way that Ferguson ran Man United (which admittedly, doesn't exist in 2024).

As a result of that, NP brought in Steve Walsh to the club to lead player recruitment, who in turn, set up a world class scouting methodology based on data.

Meanwhile, Nigel and Shakey knew that the club required a proper sports science approach that hadn't really been applied, even in some Top clubs (apparently Jose ripped what sport science there was out of Man United during his tenure).

Finally, Nigel had immense man management skills - developing players like Marhez, Drinkwater and Vardy that left to any other manager, would most likely not have flourished. This also built the best team spirit the club has ever had (at least when it hasn't revolved around drinking culture).

All of this was allowed to happen because we didn't have a DoF and through luck or judgement, gave NP the freedom to build an elite set up at a mid table championship team.

For my money, this laid the foundations for everything good that has happened over the past decade and which KP and Rudkin have tried to take the majority of the credit. It's also why in my opinion, past performance is not an indication of the future, because Rudkin now has a vice like grip on his position and the freedom to develop the club and what footballing structure we had has been dismantled since 2016 (as we saw when Steve Walsh decided to leave and we bought in duffers like Silmani and Musa!).



*I will say that in this interpretation, I have to give credit to KP for the financial backing and space given to NP and others to build that foundation.
 
Would you agree that the problem that needs fixing has been there for a number of years now? If so, how many more years will you support them before you're ready to act?
How do you think it gets fixed overnight? The overspend under Rodgers and subsequent relegation would finish most clubs.
 
Everyone makes errors. That’s why they put rubbers on pencils. Paolo Sousa was 14 years ago.

Every team also has an element of fortune, but you can’t label all success as luck and all failure as ineptitude. You don’t luckily win league 1, the championship twice, the premier league, the FA Cup and the community shield with several top half finishes and a quarter final of the worlds biggest club competition. That isn’t all luck.

Similarly, failure isn’t down to doing nothing, being inept, or being stupid. There’s one enormous issue that wasn’t addressed and it was that Rodgers twerp. I was very critical he wasn’t removed a year and a half before it finally happened. There’s no question that what he spent landed us here. There’s no question the club put an enormous amount of misplaced faith in him. That is a failing. No doubt. It doesn’t undo all the good things we have done. It sets us back a long way, but not insurmountable if we are patient.

The argument about hundreds of millions of loans they put in but wrote off is documented in our files accounts. It stacks up. It’s there in black and white. They didn’t have to write off a penny. Not one.

They also didn’t have to build a training ground or plan to develop the rest of our infrastructure. They didn’t have to reinvest transfer funds back into the team while we were in the shit. It’s their company, they could sit on it or declare a nice dividend. They could’ve taken the Sheffield Wednesday approach and said that nothing more was going in, that wages wouldn’t be paid, that if fans thought it was their club so much they should pay the liabilities. They aren’t that kind of owner though.

The value of King Power went from 8 billion to around 1.5 billion because of Covid. They still put money in. At the height of their worst time they wrote off our debt. The company is now worth around 3.5 billion. It’s not double its size. It’s half its size (not even that currently).

We haven’t gone backwards. We were nothing when they came in. Scratching around the half a million transfer fee bracket and declining year on year. I’ll happily take the rain while we try to right what went wrong.

I don’t have blind faith. I acknowledge the mistakes. I think they know about them too, but I don’t see an ownership that has closed shop and turned off the tap.

Hound them out guys. See whether the next one is better, but don’t cry about it when 1) the replacement isn’t what you’d hoped; and 2) our current owners are doing great somewhere else.
Absolutely stonking ****ng post. Thank you.
 
Log in to stop seeing adverts

P Pld Pts
1Manchester C  39
2Liverpool39
3Brighton37
4Arsenal37
5Newcastle37
6Brentford36
7Aston Villa36
8Bournemouth35
9Nottm F35
10Tottenham 34
11Chelsea34
12Fulham34
13West Ham33
14Manchester U33
15Leicester31
16Palace31
17Ipswich31
18Wolves31
19Southampton30
20Everton30
Back
Top