Where are the big signings?

[Redditch Fox]

Obviously I have not reading threads carefully enough. Was the Cox 'bid' entirely ficticious to fool us into thinking Milan was going to splash some cash, or is there still some money available if Pearson and Walsh can identify a good value, available player?

Presumably as both Milan and Hoos were on record as having bid, it was a significant one of say £1million + but obviously not the £2million the Baggies eventually offered.

From the time I have followed football - which is an exceedingly long time - it has been a well worked ploy to make 'bids' with the main purpose of keeping the troops (fans) happy. As you hint, I dare say we would have been content to pick up Cox at a seriously below market price but this wasn't likely to occur with the Baggies & Celtic interested.

I guess that MM has still got money to spend but I don't think that he will splash millions around. I do think that we are a decent striker light but they are expensive and difficult to acquire through loans. I wouldn't be surprised if they had to resort to bringing in another old stager - and just wonder if this problem caused the recent alleged rift between NP and MM.

 

[Mike - True Blue Tinter]

The chances are though that any striker considering a move before 31 August would have made that intention 'public' via agents etc.
Any striker not considering a move would now only leave for a big pay rise or a share of a big transfer fee?

 

[Brown Nose]

Anyone care to work out what our net transfer spend since MM came is?

At a rough guess I reckon it's around -£2m. That is, we've made a substantial profit in transfers since he took over despite his many claims about what a glorious benefactor he is.

That is of course, in addition to the circa £30m net he's pissed up the wall on wages and general incompetance.

Still, nice to see that the old fella is still live and kicking for another season.

 

[Blue Maniac]

I wasn't being entirely serious.

:icon_wink

 

[Redditch Fox]

Anyone care to work out what our net transfer spend since MM came is?

At a rough guess I reckon it's around -£2m. That is, we've made a substantial profit in transfers since he took over despite his many claims about what a glorious benefactor he is.

That is of course, in addition to the circa £30m net he's pissed up the wall on wages and general incompetance.

Still, nice to see that the old fella is still live and kicking for another season.

Put another way, MM hasn't spent his modest fortune (the "circa £30 you claim) very wisely which is a great shame for both him and us because his tenure could have been a time of great progress with that sort of money -got us into the premiership and even if like as not we had come straight down there would have been considerable financial benefit.

Now - he's spent a lot and doesn't want or can't dish it out anymore.

 

[mars4lux]

so delph goes to villa- which means king stays put ???

 

[Blue Maniac]

so delph goes to villa- which means king stays put ???

Delph goes to Villa, yes. King will stay put, yes. The two are not related, no.

 

[Brown Nose]

Put another way, MM hasn't spent his modest fortune (the "circa £30 you claim) very wisely which is a great shame for both him and us because his tenure could have been a time of great progress with that sort of money -got us into the premiership and even if like as not we had come straight down there would have been considerable financial benefit.

Now - he's spent a lot and doesn't want or can't dish it out anymore.

Spot on except for the point about him spending his money. Mostly, it's actually club debt. If you include the stadium, the club must owe something like £50m by now.

In that context, reducing the wage bill and minimising transfer spends is essential.

 

[Redditch Fox]

Spot on except for the point about him spending his money. Mostly, it's actually club debt. If you include the stadium, the club must owe something like £50m by now.

In that context, reducing the wage bill and minimising transfer spends is essential.

I guess so. I wouldn't know how much MM has spent of his own money, but I guess some. However, there is bound to be on going long tem 'fall out' from the money that has been wasted on players and managers and other senior staffs' compensations etc, loss of Sky revenue through relegation.

As you say, its time for tightening the belt and Mr Pearson having to make do and mend.

This is not going to be something that is going to be featured in the the Mercury!

 

[Matt_B]

Anyone care to work out what our net transfer spend since MM came is?

At a rough guess I reckon it's around -£2m. That is, we've made a substantial profit in transfers since he took over despite his many claims about what a glorious benefactor he is.

That is of course, in addition to the circa £30m net he's pissed up the wall on wages and general incompetance.

Still, nice to see that the old fella is still live and kicking for another season.

What profit have we made in transfers since he's been here? I would hardly class it as substantial. Yet more baseless crap from you.

 

[Jeff]

What profit have we made in transfers since he's been here?

McAuley, Stearman and Hume all went for decent fees. But we spent a similar amount on Campbell, Clemence and Howard.

 

[Brauny Blue]

McAuley, Stearman and Hume all went for decent fees. But we spent a similar amount on Campbell, Clemence and Howard.

Basically balancing the books. Not a bad thing of course, but not quite what many of us hoped for when the saviour arrived.

 

[Jeff]

Basically balancing the books. Not a bad thing of course, but not quite what many of us hoped for when the saviour arrived.

The books haven't been balanced, nowhere near. We've spent more on players than just those three I mentioned, but haven't received much more in incoming fees.

Also we've paid high wages to players who have hardly played, we'll have paid off players (and managers) who have left before the end of their contract, and we've spent lots in agents and signing on fees.


The problem is most of the money has been wasted.

 

[Brauny Blue]

The books haven't been balanced, nowhere near. We've spent more on players than just those three I mentioned, but haven't received much more in incoming fees.




The problem is most of the money has been wasted.

I'd like to see a listing of 'ins and outs' since meelan arrived.

 

[Jeff]

I'd like to see a listing of 'ins and outs' since meelan arrived.

From Soccerbase...

Out:
Patrick McCarthy Charlton £ 650000 06-06-2007
Andy Johnson Barnsley Free 08-06-2007
Danny Cadamarteri Huddersfield Free 26-06-2007
Stephen Hughes Motherwell Signed 31-08-2007
Mark De Vries Dundee Utd Signed 25-01-2008
Darren Kenton Leeds Signed 31-01-2008
Gareth McAuley Ipswich Signed 18-06-2008
Richard Stearman Wolves Signed 25-06-2008
Iain Hume Barnsley £ 1200000 25-06-2008
Rab Douglas Dundee Free 01-07-2008
Alan Sheehan Leeds Signed 01-07-2008
Louis Dodds Port Vale Signed 21-07-2008
James Chambers Doncaster Free 05-08-2008
Mark Davies Bolton Signed 26-01-2009
Eric Odhiambo Inverness CT Free 30-01-2009
Joe Cobb Wycombe Free 01-07-2009
Jonathan Hayes Inverness CT Free 01-07-2009
Ryan Beswick Kettering Free 01-07-2009
Lee Cox Inverness CT Free 01-07-2009
Barry Hayles Cheltenham Free 13-07-2009
Billy McKay Northampton Free 22-07-2009



In:
Bruno N'Gotty Birmingham Free 04-06-2007
Jimmy Nielsen Aalborg Free 04-06-2007
Carl Cort Wolves Free 08-06-2007
Sergio Hellings Apeldoorn Free 18-06-2007
Radostin Kishishev Charlton Signed 19-06-2007
James Chambers Watford Free 26-06-2007
Jonathan Hayes Reading Signed 04-07-2007
Hossein Kaebi Perspolis Signed 05-07-2007
Shaun Newton West Ham Free 06-07-2007
Stephen Clemence Birmingham £ 1000000 13-07-2007
DJ Campbell Birmingham £ 1600000 20-07-2007
Barry Hayles Plymouth Signed 01-01-2008
Steve Howard Derby £ 1500000 03-01-2008
Matt Oakley Derby £ 500000 11-01-2008
Jamie Clapham Wolves Free 31-01-2008
Harry Worley Chelsea Free 08-05-2008
Lloyd Dyer MK Dons Free 01-07-2008
Nicky Adams Bury £ 100000 01-07-2008
Michael Morrison Cambridge Utd Signed 01-07-2008
Aleksander Tunchev CSKA Sofia £ 375000 07-07-2008
Chris Powell Charlton Free 01-08-2008
Paul Dickov Man City Free 07-08-2008
Dany N'Guessan Lincoln Signed 29-06-2009
Jack Hobbs Liverpool Free 01-07-2009
Chris Weale Bristol C Free 01-07-2009
Wayne Brown Hull Free 01-07-2009
Robbie Neilson Hearts Free 01-07-2009
Astrit Ajdarevic Liverpool Free 01-07-2009
Ritchie Wellens Doncaster £ 1000000 07-07-2009




A lot of them don't have the fees, or the wrong fees (for example it says Hobbs was free), but I think it's obvious from the lists that we spent more than we received.

 

[GazLCFC]

There is a fair few missing from the out list. Kaebi, Chambers, Kishishev.....

 

[Miles Away]

Chambers would be in and out...like the hokey pokey.

 

[Brauny Blue]

From Soccerbase...

Out:
Patrick McCarthy Charlton £ 650000 06-06-2007
Andy Johnson Barnsley Free 08-06-2007
Danny Cadamarteri Huddersfield Free 26-06-2007
Stephen Hughes Motherwell Signed 31-08-2007
Mark De Vries Dundee Utd Signed 25-01-2008
Darren Kenton Leeds Signed 31-01-2008
Gareth McAuley Ipswich Signed 18-06-2008
Richard Stearman Wolves Signed 25-06-2008
Iain Hume Barnsley £ 1200000 25-06-2008
Rab Douglas Dundee Free 01-07-2008
Alan Sheehan Leeds Signed 01-07-2008
Louis Dodds Port Vale Signed 21-07-2008
James Chambers Doncaster Free 05-08-2008
Mark Davies Bolton Signed 26-01-2009
Eric Odhiambo Inverness CT Free 30-01-2009
Joe Cobb Wycombe Free 01-07-2009
Jonathan Hayes Inverness CT Free 01-07-2009
Ryan Beswick Kettering Free 01-07-2009
Lee Cox Inverness CT Free 01-07-2009
Barry Hayles Cheltenham Free 13-07-2009
Billy McKay Northampton Free 22-07-2009



In:
Bruno N'Gotty Birmingham Free 04-06-2007
Jimmy Nielsen Aalborg Free 04-06-2007
Carl Cort Wolves Free 08-06-2007
Sergio Hellings Apeldoorn Free 18-06-2007
Radostin Kishishev Charlton Signed 19-06-2007
James Chambers Watford Free 26-06-2007
Jonathan Hayes Reading Signed 04-07-2007
Hossein Kaebi Perspolis Signed 05-07-2007
Shaun Newton West Ham Free 06-07-2007
Stephen Clemence Birmingham £ 1000000 13-07-2007
DJ Campbell Birmingham £ 1600000 20-07-2007
Barry Hayles Plymouth Signed 01-01-2008
Steve Howard Derby £ 1500000 03-01-2008
Matt Oakley Derby £ 500000 11-01-2008
Jamie Clapham Wolves Free 31-01-2008
Harry Worley Chelsea Free 08-05-2008
Lloyd Dyer MK Dons Free 01-07-2008
Nicky Adams Bury £ 100000 01-07-2008
Michael Morrison Cambridge Utd Signed 01-07-2008
Aleksander Tunchev CSKA Sofia £ 375000 07-07-2008
Chris Powell Charlton Free 01-08-2008
Paul Dickov Man City Free 07-08-2008
Dany N'Guessan Lincoln Signed 29-06-2009
Jack Hobbs Liverpool Free 01-07-2009
Chris Weale Bristol C Free 01-07-2009
Wayne Brown Hull Free 01-07-2009
Robbie Neilson Hearts Free 01-07-2009
Astrit Ajdarevic Liverpool Free 01-07-2009
Ritchie Wellens Doncaster £ 1000000 07-07-2009




A lot of them don't have the fees, or the wrong fees (for example it says Hobbs was free), but I think it's obvious from the lists that we spent more than we received.

You could make a Leicester City worst 11 out of that lot:icon_bigg

 

[Jeff]

There is a fair few missing from the out list. Kaebi, Chambers, Kishishev.....

Kishishev and Kaebi aren't on the list of players who have left, presumably because they didn't go on to play for another club in the UK.
Chambers is on the list of players who have left.

 

[Jeff]

I've just noticed there's a separate section for released players...

Danny Tiatto 21-05-2007
Nils-Eric Johansson 21-05-2007
Jimmy Nielsen 01-01-2008
Carl Cort 01-01-2008
Elvis Hammond 01-06-2008
Hossein Kaebi 01-06-2008
Jamie Clapham 01-06-2008
Zsolt Laczko 01-06-2008
Sergio Hellings 30-07-2008
Radostin Kishishev 31-12-2008
Alex Cisak 31-05-2009
Joe Magunda 31-05-2009
Paul Henderson 01-07-2009
Patrick Kisnorbo 01-07-2009
Bruno N'Gotty 01-07-2009
Robbie Burns 01-07-2009
Marc Edworthy 01-07-2009


Apparently we've released Burns, I thought he played on Sunday?