Post Match Manchester United 2 Leicester 0

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SilverFox said:
It could be worse. Paulo Sousa's Leicester v Portsmouth in 2010. That was just a horrible thing. The only silver lining was that it was clear he was out on his arse after that.
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This is by some way the strongest and most successful LCFC I've ever seen, though admittedly I only go back to 1961. I'm reassured by the way the pre-, match and post- match threads merge into an incoherent mess of pessimistic verbiage as our resident cast of Captain Bringdowns run the rule regardless of whether we're up against clueless arriviste hopefuls or those living on past glories raising their game against a club who actually won the damn thing fifteen short months ago.
 
Ike O'Noclassed said:
This is by some way the strongest and most successful LCFC I've ever seen, though admittedly I only go back to 1961. I'm reassured by the way the pre-, match and post- match threads merge into an incoherent mess of pessimistic verbiage as our resident cast of Captain Bringdowns run the rule regardless of whether we're up against clueless arriviste hopefuls or those living on past glories raising their game against a club who actually won the damn thing fifteen short months ago.
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There were very little positives yesterday other than we kept them to 2 goals. We still can't have more than 1 central midfielder have a good game at a time. The defence did a good job but it's all a waste of time when we shit ourselves going forward. Something's definitely not right when they won't pass to each other in the opposition box. Perhaps those who like Shaky won't pass to those who don't like junk food and hoofing it and so on. We've been dealt a shit bunch of fixtures to start with but we're lacking in enough positions to not help ourselves.
 
Just one other thought.

Any new manager would be afforded at least half to two thirds of a season to be judged but we appear to be being very critical only a few weeks into his tenure.

He will need to learn his craft and unfortunately rather quickly I feel.
 
camberwell fox said:
Just one other thought.

Any new manager would be afforded at least half to two thirds of a season to be judged but we appear to be being very critical only a few weeks into his tenure.

He will need to learn his craft and unfortunately rather quickly I feel.
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He had quite a few games to learn from last season too so about a third of this season max will do. I'm (not sure about others) critical because we've got him as a manager due to his relationship with players who were willing to relegate us last season due to personal differences with our greatest ever manager. He's got some mighty big shoes to fill IMO and a long way to prove the decision to back our pampered little darlings was correct. A turnaround in effort saved us last season, not Shakey. The manager of the nearest KFC could have overseen an improvement from those twats last year.
 
fitz said:
He had quite a few games to learn from last season too so about a third of this season max will do. I'm (not sure about others) critical because we've got him as a manager due to his relationship with players who were willing to relegate us last season due to personal differences with our greatest ever manager. He's got some mighty big shoes to fill IMO and a long way to prove the decision to back our pampered little darlings was correct. A turnaround in effort saved us last season, not Shakey. The manager of the nearest KFC could have overseen an improvement from those twats last year.
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Don't necessarily disagree with any of that.

Thing is he wasn't Manager for the final third merely caretaker with very limited scope to do anything substantial in terms of personnel.

He needs to be judged in my opinion when:

1) Iborra is fit and playing.

2) Huth is fit and playing in a 5 or at least as a new stable back unit.

3) Nacho is fit and playing.

4) He has his own back room team and all is embedded.

5) we have played 19 games.

After 19 games I would expect us to have 30 points on the board.
 
camberwell fox said:
Don't necessarily disagree with any of that.

Thing is he wasn't Manager for the final third merely caretaker with very limited scope to do anything substantial in terms of personnel.

He needs to be judged in my opinion when:

1) Iborra is fit and playing.

2) Huth is fit and playing in a 5 or at least as a new stable back unit.

3) Nacho is fit and playing.

4) He has his own back room team and all is embedded.

5) we have played 19 games.

After 19 games I would expect us to have 30 points on the board.
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At the back end of last season he was choosing tactics/ players as coach and players' friend. This season he is doing the same as manager and players' friend. Can't see much difference other than he's had a transfer window to buy a seemingly great central defender, buy more injured players and be linked to players who are shite (Andy Townsend being the pinnacle of shite). We spent most of last season waiting for Mendy to mend, Drinky to stop being a pretend injured crab and so on. Shit needs sorting out well before 19 games. If the players love him so much they need to start trying to score goals as a team and ditch the selfish shit we saw yesterday. if they keep that up they may end up with a manager.
 
Ike O'Noclassed said:
This is by some way the strongest and most successful LCFC I've ever seen, though admittedly I only go back to 1961. I'm reassured by the way the pre-, match and post- match threads merge into an incoherent mess of pessimistic verbiage as our resident cast of Captain Bringdowns run the rule regardless of whether we're up against clueless arriviste hopefuls or those living on past glories raising their game against a club who actually won the damn thing fifteen short months ago.
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I quite agree, with perhaps the exception of your choice of tense. This was the strongest LCFC I have seen. I've been watching a while too. Every wave breaks.This one too...but what a ride it was.
 
Miles Away said:
Out of curiosity. What changes to the side would people be making given the options?
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I'd love to see Mahrez in a central role in a 4231. I know he's not fit get but Iborra anchoring next to Ndidi in the two, with Albrighton playing on the right and Vardy pushed high up on the left making room for Fuchs to push on. Slimani given lots of space to knock the centre halfs around and close down making room for Vardy to drift behind him. As magical a dribbler as Mahrez is I think his greatest asset to us is his vision and passing and I want to see him playing nearer the opposition's goal. Maguire might have something to aim at too and get Mahrez turning and drawing players in. I'd build the team around him basically and I think Shakespear will waste the last season (at most) we have with this genius.
 
And I'm not saying it to be mean, or because I'm a mong, or because I lack intelligence. I'm saying it because we have one dimension and have had for some time. This has a feeling of inevitability around it. Are we just wasting time?

What I will say in Shakespeare's defence is that there is probably no candidate available at this time who I would prefer, but that is hardly an endorsement.
 
Miles Away said:
Out of curiosity. What changes to the side would people be making given the options?
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I think the options is the problem.
We've still got the little group of pals of last season with their pal as manager. At the end of last season we could have brought in a manager, yes a manager, who could ship out the shit stirrers and bring in some players who will play for the team and not just themselves. Half of the ****s won't even be here in a years time anyway.
 
We need to sit tight and see where we are in 15 or so games.

We've lost to Man U and Arsenal, not Bolton.
 
fitz said:
I think the options is the problem.
We've still got the little group of pals of last season with their pal as manager. At the end of last season we could have brought in a manager, yes a manager, who could ship out the shit stirrers and bring in some players who will play for the team and not just themselves. Half of the ****s won't even be here in a years time anyway.
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Out of curiosity, do you include Vardy in this?
 
fitz said:
Very much yes. But seeing as our only game plan is about booting it to him then we need to keep him. Unless we start from scratch.
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The alternative is to get a manager who won't stand for any bollocks from the players and a board that will properly support him.
 
fitz said:
Agreed. Probably needs some slow change. We have tried changes to formation etc previously though and that went badly.
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It went badly because it was made to go badly by players who felt it was in their best interests for it to go badly.
 
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