Ranieri Sacked

[consty]

If the owners came to the players and asked THEM for their opinion, you can't blame them for giving one. I'm sure they wouldn't, and indeed couldn't, just go to them and speak out of turn. The likelihood is that the chats with players CONFIRMED the owners opinion that Claudio had lost the players. Therefore Kasper is right to say they did not influence the decision. You can't expect the players to lie if they were asked if they feel they are playing to their best under the tactics, strategies and team selections the manager is making and if those 3 things are understood by them all.

Looks, everyone loves Claudio, all the fans, myself included, and certainly the owners. I was there when the PL was handed to the team, when Bottcelli sang on the stage. They were incredible moments. No-one wanted Ranari to go this way, a couple of seasons of mid-table mediocrity or slightly worse (or better still, top 10 finishes) followed by his retirement would have been best. He wouldn't have been sacked under either of those scenarios (I believe anyway).

The owners were loyal to him as far as they could reasonably go and indeed beyond reasonably long. That's why he wasn't sacked in November or December when we could all see how bad the team had become. They gave him November and then December to turn it around. He didn't. Managers all around him were getting sacked. They gave him more time. They gave him all of January as well and hoped he could turn it around. But the team continued to look like it was dropping like a stone into the relegation zone. The defeat against Swansea showed relegation under the current regime was HIGHLY likely. It's true that a change might not work, but sticking with Claudio I think meant relegation was a certainty. The owners had to protect the club from a possible 2nd spell in the championship which could last a long time.

I believe there was widespread disquiet about Claudio's methods this season - playing and non-playing staff - unhappy with his methods. The likely scenario is NOT that they stabbed him in the back or plotted against him, the players were just were hugely demotivated by him. The results were shown on the pitch. Results speak for themselves! The players didn't know what they were doing, such was the degree of tinkering by the tinkerman and the many poor team selections and tactics. If we don't think that the tactics and the stamp of the MANAGER makes a difference - look at how Guardiola's cock up against us cost them a 4-0 defeat. Get the tactics wrong and confuse the players and that's what you get. I don't think the players should get a lot of flack over this. Very likely the underperformed all season because Claudio did ALL season what Guardiola did in one match. Unfortunately Claudio carried on getting it wrong. The players had a degree of responsibility but I think my arguments above show the buck stops rightly at the managers door. Sorry, he had to go.

 

[FIF]

Kasper has my unwavering support.

 

[Durham Fox]

If the owners came to the players and asked THEM for their opinion, you can't blame them for giving one. I'm sure they wouldn't, and indeed couldn't, just go to them and speak out of turn. The likelihood is that the chats with players CONFIRMED the owners opinion that Claudio had lost the players. Therefore Kasper is right to say they did not influence the decision. You can't expect the players to lie if they were asked if they feel they are playing to their best under the tactics, strategies and team selections the manager is making and if those 3 things are understood by them all.

Looks, everyone loves Claudio, all the fans, myself included, and certainly the owners. I was there when the PL was handed to the team, when Bottcelli sang on the stage. They were incredible moments. No-one wanted Ranari to go this way, a couple of seasons of mid-table mediocrity or slightly worse (or better still, top 10 finishes) followed by his retirement would have been best. He wouldn't have been sacked under either of those scenarios (I believe anyway).

The owners were loyal to him as far as they could reasonably go and indeed beyond reasonably long. That's why he wasn't sacked in November or December when we could all see how bad the team had become. They gave him November and then December to turn it around. He didn't. Managers all around him were getting sacked. They gave him more time. They gave him all of January as well and hoped he could turn it around. But the team continued to look like it was dropping like a stone into the relegation zone. The defeat against Swansea showed relegation under the current regime was HIGHLY likely. It's true that a change might not work, but sticking with Claudio I think meant relegation was a certainty. The owners had to protect the club from a possible 2nd spell in the championship which could last a long time.

I believe there was widespread disquiet about Claudio's methods this season - playing and non-playing staff - unhappy with his methods. The likely scenario is NOT that they stabbed him in the back or plotted against him, the players were just were hugely demotivated by him. The results were shown on the pitch. Results speak for themselves! The players didn't know what they were doing, such was the degree of tinkering by the tinkerman and the many poor team selections and tactics. If we don't think that the tactics and the stamp of the MANAGER makes a difference - look at how Guardiola's cock up against us cost them a 4-0 defeat. Get the tactics wrong and confuse the players and that's what you get. I don't think the players should get a lot of flack over this. Very likely the underperformed all season because Claudio did ALL season what Guardiola did in one match. Unfortunately Claudio carried on getting it wrong. The players had a degree of responsibility but I think my arguments above show the buck stops rightly at the managers door. Sorry, he had to go.

Well said and a more balanced view.

 

[Volpone]

It's not necessary to border on the offensive. We can discuss things without resorting to name calling, even if we disagree.

Yes, it's courageous for Kasper to speak publicly. But it's totally normal for his words to be analysed and commented on by interested parties. Discussion is what keeps this forum ticking over.

Personally, I do not accuse Kasper of lying. I don't think he's being totally open though, not that I'd expect him to be. That gap is bound to lead to conjecture though. So long as we all realise that it is only conjecture, and don't become argumentative over it, I personally see no problem.

As Jeff suggests above, it's common enough practice for employees to voice concerns from time to time. Perhaps we can see what's happened from that perspective too.

I just find it incredible that he is being accused without a single shred of any evidence.

Would Claudio have made a special visit to say goodbye to each and every player today and shake their hand and wish them well if he felt they had directly contrived to get him sacked?

The owners sacked him and if I were in their shoes I would have had to do the same. For all that we love him, there were no signs Claudio would have saved us from the drop.

 

[Miles Away]

For the life of me I just cannot understand why you spineless keyboard warriors are queuing up to crucify him.

He didn't have to agree to be interviewed. He could have declined or told them to ask some other player.

It's outrageous that you are all assuming he is a liar.

Alright then.

 

[Miles Away]

W
What on earth are you going on about?!

He is clearly evading the question and does so several times. I'm spineless apparently, but even I can see that.

 

[camberwell fox]

He dodged the questions with a smart arsed answer.

When asked whether there have been meetings between the players and owners he answers - no no meetings.

What he is saying is that there have been discussions but not 'minutes' meetings.

He is a liar. I know a bit about behaviours and how people react in certain circumstances and what they do when they are not telling the truth.

I can tell you with no doubt whatsoever that he is not telling the truth.

 

[pork pie fox]

I am disappointed he left, but I think he has carried himself with great dignity.

However, it's not like results are going too well and so it's hardly shock of the century that this could have happened.

(I also had £20 at 25/1 for him to be the next manager to be sacked, not that I agreed with it, so at least that's a positive).

 

[Lako42]

For the life of me I just cannot understand why you spineless keyboard warriors are queuing up to crucify him.

He didn't have to agree to be interviewed. He could have declined or told them to ask some other player.

It's outrageous that you are all assuming he is a liar.

Calm down.

People are fully entitled to take that interview however they want.

Whatever your thoughts, its there in absolute clarity, Kasper unable to categorically say that the players did not tell the owners their thoughts on Claudio.

Its clear to me that they did, he just won't take any responsibility for the outcome, he had no influence.

I think there are some players for and some against Ranieri.

I find the absence of a statement from Vardy and DD very telling.

Perhaps why certain players didn't celebrate the assist from DD and the goal from Vardy.

Who knows, but I'm not a keyboard warrior and I would have no issue telling the players what I think if the evidence was clearer, just like I did when I question Peter Taylor all those years ago.

 

[City Fan]

I think it's clear from that interview that he side stepped the question several times when he had the opportunity to categorically deny that he has been chatting to the owners about Claudio.

As I don't have the first clue what has been going on behind the scenes, I can't criticise him for doing so.

 

[glyn]

Who knows, but I'm not a keyboard warrior and I would have no issue telling the players what I think if the evidence was clearer, just like I did when I question Peter Taylor all those years ago.

Speaking of which, sorry if it's been posted already, but Savage wrote in the Mirror that when things were bleak under Taylor, John Elsom called in the 'players committee' (or whatever he group of senior players was called, and of which he was a part) and they refused to undermine Taylor and as players took all the blame for the poor performances.

 

[Blaarev]

 

[FIF]

So we can love them all then.

Told you it was an urban myth.

 

[Micky]

You can still love and respect a manager, even if you don't have faith in his methods. Perhaps the players didn't believe anymore, even if they still thought highly of him.

 

[Brown Nose]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39092218

 

[Jeff]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39092218

After Claudio Ranieri was sacked by Leicester City boss this week, BBC Radio Leicester reporters Ian Stringer and Jason Bourne went to see him. Here is their open letter about the encounter from the BBC Leicester Sport Facebook page...

Claudio Ranieri is the epitome of class.

We had the privilege of spending a few minutes in his company on Friday night, less than 24 hours after his departure from Leicester City was confirmed.

We wanted to thank him not only for the manner in which he dealt with us on BBC Radio Leicester, but also to offer our gratitude for making our dreams come true. He led our club to the unthinkable. We had our hearts stolen by the Italian, as many others did. We felt compelled to tell him how we felt.

The memories of last season will stay with us forever. You'll sometimes catch us in the office watching Andrea Bocelli serenading the King Power Stadium. It still brings a tear to the eye.

The last few months, though, have been far from perfect and Claudio must share some of the blame for the team's struggles. He has been the first to point out his own mistakes. Whatever the rights and wrongs of his sacking, he will always be known to us as a legend.

After work on Friday, we drove to his house with a letter in hand. Hoping to deliver to him personally, we had an approach of 'whatever will be will be'. If we had to simply post it through his letterbox then so be it. We knew he'd been visited by fans and others from the media all day.

Thankfully, Claudio answered the door himself. He was beaming from ear to ear, greeted us with warm handshakes and invited us in to his home for coffee. He was positive, yet regretful, about what happened, but continually spoke about the fans and his love and admiration for them and the club.

He was full of pride when discussing his memories of our city and he isn't far from knowing when is best to get his Christmas pork pie from the Walkers shop in town - quite the local!

Claudio turned his lampshade up and sat us down on his modest, but comfortable, sofa for a chat. His animated Italian style in full flow as he explained the level of thanks that supporters have offered by delivering cards and bottles of wine to his house.

He laughed as he recalled the first time he had "Claudio, give us a wave! Claudio, Claudio give us a wave!" sung at him and he didn't understand. It was Lincoln away if we remember rightly. Craig Shakespeare made it known to him and he promptly responded.

Neatly dressed (no slippers, just socks, no shoes in the house) he bid us farewell after the espresso had hit the spot. We thanked him for giving us the greatest year. "No thank you, thank you very much", replied the legend.

We got to say goodbye and whilst he hasn't had a chance to do it in public we can assure you he's thankful for every cheer and song he had.

Regardless of how his time at Leicester City ended, we will always remember him as a gentleman and a legend of our club.

We don't ever ask mangers - past or present - for a picture but Claudio indulged us on this occasion.

Grazie, Claudio!

Ian and Jason

 

[Feriol]

Kasper is smart enough to know that whatever he says will be twisted and blown out of proportion by the media. As such he was very careful about what he said, and what he didn't.

 

[Micky]

After Claudio Ranieri was sacked by Leicester City boss this week, BBC Radio Leicester reporters Ian Stringer and Jason Bourne went to see him. Here is their open letter about the encounter from the BBC Leicester Sport Facebook page...

Claudio Ranieri is the epitome of class.

We had the privilege of spending a few minutes in his company on Friday night, less than 24 hours after his departure from Leicester City was confirmed.

We wanted to thank him not only for the manner in which he dealt with us on BBC Radio Leicester, but also to offer our gratitude for making our dreams come true. He led our club to the unthinkable. We had our hearts stolen by the Italian, as many others did. We felt compelled to tell him how we felt.

The memories of last season will stay with us forever. You'll sometimes catch us in the office watching Andrea Bocelli serenading the King Power Stadium. It still brings a tear to the eye.

The last few months, though, have been far from perfect and Claudio must share some of the blame for the team's struggles. He has been the first to point out his own mistakes. Whatever the rights and wrongs of his sacking, he will always be known to us as a legend.

After work on Friday, we drove to his house with a letter in hand. Hoping to deliver to him personally, we had an approach of 'whatever will be will be'. If we had to simply post it through his letterbox then so be it. We knew he'd been visited by fans and others from the media all day.

Thankfully, Claudio answered the door himself. He was beaming from ear to ear, greeted us with warm handshakes and invited us in to his home for coffee. He was positive, yet regretful, about what happened, but continually spoke about the fans and his love and admiration for them and the club.

He was full of pride when discussing his memories of our city and he isn't far from knowing when is best to get his Christmas pork pie from the Walkers shop in town - quite the local!

Claudio turned his lampshade up and sat us down on his modest, but comfortable, sofa for a chat. His animated Italian style in full flow as he explained the level of thanks that supporters have offered by delivering cards and bottles of wine to his house.

He laughed as he recalled the first time he had "Claudio, give us a wave! Claudio, Claudio give us a wave!" sung at him and he didn't understand. It was Lincoln away if we remember rightly. Craig Shakespeare made it known to him and he promptly responded.

Neatly dressed (no slippers, just socks, no shoes in the house) he bid us farewell after the espresso had hit the spot. We thanked him for giving us the greatest year. "No thank you, thank you very much", replied the legend.

We got to say goodbye and whilst he hasn't had a chance to do it in public we can assure you he's thankful for every cheer and song he had.

Regardless of how his time at Leicester City ended, we will always remember him as a gentleman and a legend of our club.

We don't ever ask mangers - past or present - for a picture but Claudio indulged us on this occasion.

Grazie, Claudio!

Ian and Jason

I love him.

 

[glyn]

After Claudio Ranieri was sacked by Leicester City boss this week, BBC Radio Leicester reporters Ian Stringer and Jason Bourne went to see him. Here is their open letter about the encounter from the BBC Leicester Sport Facebook page...

Claudio Ranieri is the epitome of class.

We had the privilege of spending a few minutes in his company on Friday night, less than 24 hours after his departure from Leicester City was confirmed.

We wanted to thank him not only for the manner in which he dealt with us on BBC Radio Leicester, but also to offer our gratitude for making our dreams come true. He led our club to the unthinkable. We had our hearts stolen by the Italian, as many others did. We felt compelled to tell him how we felt.

The memories of last season will stay with us forever. You'll sometimes catch us in the office watching Andrea Bocelli serenading the King Power Stadium. It still brings a tear to the eye.

The last few months, though, have been far from perfect and Claudio must share some of the blame for the team's struggles. He has been the first to point out his own mistakes. Whatever the rights and wrongs of his sacking, he will always be known to us as a legend.

After work on Friday, we drove to his house with a letter in hand. Hoping to deliver to him personally, we had an approach of 'whatever will be will be'. If we had to simply post it through his letterbox then so be it. We knew he'd been visited by fans and others from the media all day.

Thankfully, Claudio answered the door himself. He was beaming from ear to ear, greeted us with warm handshakes and invited us in to his home for coffee. He was positive, yet regretful, about what happened, but continually spoke about the fans and his love and admiration for them and the club.

He was full of pride when discussing his memories of our city and he isn't far from knowing when is best to get his Christmas pork pie from the Walkers shop in town - quite the local!

Claudio turned his lampshade up and sat us down on his modest, but comfortable, sofa for a chat. His animated Italian style in full flow as he explained the level of thanks that supporters have offered by delivering cards and bottles of wine to his house.

He laughed as he recalled the first time he had "Claudio, give us a wave! Claudio, Claudio give us a wave!" sung at him and he didn't understand. It was Lincoln away if we remember rightly. Craig Shakespeare made it known to him and he promptly responded.

Neatly dressed (no slippers, just socks, no shoes in the house) he bid us farewell after the espresso had hit the spot. We thanked him for giving us the greatest year. "No thank you, thank you very much", replied the legend.

We got to say goodbye and whilst he hasn't had a chance to do it in public we can assure you he's thankful for every cheer and song he had.

Regardless of how his time at Leicester City ended, we will always remember him as a gentleman and a legend of our club.

We don't ever ask mangers - past or present - for a picture but Claudio indulged us on this occasion.

Grazie, Claudio!

Ian and Jason

Respect for him just grows. What a man to have had as our manager and to lead us to the miracle.

 

[Graz]

I just want to give Uncle Claudio a big hug