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[Leesoh]

You forgot watching hardcore pornography, eating huge bowls of carb-laden food and holding the country to ransom for enormous pay rises.

Whilst maintaining a second income from using their four days off productively

 

[Cate Fox]

Whilst maintaining a second income from using their four days off productively

double ouch :icon_lol::icon_lol:

 

[Matt_B]

one word tosser

I used quite a lot of words, surely I'm a many word tosser?

 

[Cate Fox]

I used quite a lot of words, surely I'm a many word tosser?

possibly missing a comma... although if he went to the LCFC site, he'd find loads there going free

 

[spionfox]

possibly missing a comma... although if he went to the LCFC site, he'd fine loads there going free

:icon_lol:

 

[Cate Fox]

:icon_lol:

oh feck, I meant find, not fine... ffs :icon_lol:

 

[indierich06]

You forgot watching hardcore pornography, eating huge bowls of carb-laden food and holding the country to ransom for enormous pay rises.

Whilst maintaining a second income from using their four days off productively

While I agree that kanefire is being an absolute bellend in this thread, I'm a bit offended about these generalisations about firefighters. My old man's been a firefighter for about 30 or so years - he voted against the strike at the time and worried about how he would support his family without the money coming in.

When he had his four days off he didn't work a second job, he looked after me and my brother when we were young so my mum could go out and work full time to support us.

Over the years he's seen colleagues die on the job, he's carried dead bodies out of cars, burnt children out of house fires... I'm biased, but I still can't believe people can slag off firemen - or NHS workers, or Soldiers, or the Police - for wanting a decent wage, when people like Wayne Rooney collect around £150k per week for kicking around a ball, and bankers collect million pound bonuses for leading us into the worst recession since the 30's?

And when is it ok to stop generalising? Is it ok to say that women know nothing about football and offside rule? Is it ok to say that black people are all criminals? Is it ok to say that all middle eastern people are terrorists? Of course it isn't, so why is it less offensive to generalise about other groups of people, about their race, their job, their sex - their anything?

I didn't mean to have a massive rant here, and I really like both of the posters who I've quoted, I just don't like people stereotyping my old man as a ****ing money grabbing horrible ****, always on the take.

Anyway. Sorry for the ranting.

 

[ChrisFilter]

Tbh **** anyone who takes issue with firemen striking for better pay and conditions. Although it's clearly banter on this thread.

There are people who hear the word 'strike' and start frothing at the mouth and ranting about socialism. There's a word for them. Tories. It's pronounced 'c*nt'.

 

[Darth Vodka]

Tbh **** anyone who takes issue with firemen striking for better pay and conditions. Although it's clearly banter on this thread.

There are people who hear the word 'strike' and start frothing at the mouth and ranting about socialism. There's a word for them. Tories. It's pronounced 'c*nt'.

so your argument is "if you have a differing opinion to me, you are a c_nt"?

brilliant

and for the record quite a lot of liberals and floating voters disagree with pointless strikes by civil servants that we already pay to provide a service...i.e. the fire and the tube

and as for frothing-at-the-mouth tories...well a three day week got them in power for a generation, so well done on that unions



all unions do is move industry abroad and get the tories in power

 

[ChrisFilter]

It is a brilliant argument, isn't it? 8)

 

[indierich06]

Hmm I may have thrown my toys out of the pram last night... Shouldn't post whilst under the influence of alcohol.

 

[Filthy Rich]

Hmm I may have thrown my toys out of the pram last night... Shouldn't post whilst under the influence of alcohol.

Don't worry, we've all done it at some point!

 

[spionfox]

Hmm I may have thrown my toys out of the pram last night... Shouldn't post whilst under the influence of alcohol.

Not at all. I thought you made a very valid point.

I'm sure the vast majority on here DO respect fire-fighters and the like and are only picking up on the flaws in one particular fire-fighters arguments.

 

[MerseyFox]

lol i didn't know that unions ran businesses. It may be something to do with cheap unregulated labour.

 

[Blue Maniac]

Hmm I may have thrown my toys out of the pram last night... Shouldn't post whilst under the influence of alcohol.

To be fair, I think a lot of what you said was right. I think you know now that we didn't mean it though :icon_wink

 

[Kingy_85]

While I agree that kanefire is being an absolute bellend in this thread, I'm a bit offended about these generalisations about firefighters. My old man's been a firefighter for about 30 or so years - he voted against the strike at the time and worried about how he would support his family without the money coming in.

When he had his four days off he didn't work a second job, he looked after me and my brother when we were young so my mum could go out and work full time to support us.

Over the years he's seen colleagues die on the job, he's carried dead bodies out of cars, burnt children out of house fires... I'm biased, but I still can't believe people can slag off firemen - or NHS workers, or Soldiers, or the Police - for wanting a decent wage, when people like Wayne Rooney collect around £150k per week for kicking around a ball, and bankers collect million pound bonuses for leading us into the worst recession since the 30's?

And when is it ok to stop generalising? Is it ok to say that women know nothing about football and offside rule? Is it ok to say that black people are all criminals? Is it ok to say that all middle eastern people are terrorists? Of course it isn't, so why is it less offensive to generalise about other groups of people, about their race, their job, their sex - their anything?

I didn't mean to have a massive rant here, and I really like both of the posters who I've quoted, I just don't like people stereotyping my old man as a ****ing money grabbing horrible ****, always on the take.

Anyway. Sorry for the ranting.

No need to apologise. Very good post.

 

[Macky]

Firemen work a three day week? What, seriously? Or have I got this arseways again?

 

[ChrisFilter]

44 days on, 4 days off.

 

[4-4-2]

44 days on, 4 days off.

4 days on (2 days, 2 nights), 4 days off.

 

[Leesoh]

Hmm I may have thrown my toys out of the pram last night... Shouldn't post whilst under the influence of alcohol.

I'm a professional cynic, to nick a lyric. I know of firefighters who do take advantage of their position to carve out a secure future for laters. I do appreciate that some join the service to do the best for the public. Just the same as me wanting to start a new career doing the best for people*, and not being a despised, money-grabbing leech, the lowest of the low, untrustworthy snake :icon_wink






* I'm actually doing it because I'm an argumentative so and so.