City To Assist Farepak Families

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I hope that is no reference to me...

I know exactly where I came from, and have a great deal of compassion for anyone who loses money, all I was saying was that I personally wouldn't pay into such a scheme preferring myself to save whether in a bank account or sticking it under the floorboard.

I don't think anything I have said is particularly snobby.
 
Feel sorry for the Farepak families but City are just trying to off load tickets for a shite game and get some good PR out of it! Shame on City IMO
 
totally agree Lazz and Hazz

i dont think they would say the same things if they knew someone that was in the situation many people are now.

Imagine not being able to afford a present for your children

Imagine it? I was on the end of it mate. I know exactly the lengths my parents went to trying and provide for us, but it wasn't always possible. For quite a while we had no holidays, we didn't have the toys or the clothes the other kids had etc etc.

Seems to me the so called "snobby comments" are coming from people who have been on the end of it to some degree.

As I said earlier where do you draw the line? There are people out there who don't even have the money to save in schemes like farepak. There are kids out there with no parents at all. Why don't they get free tickets?
 
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Feel sorry for the Farepak families but City are just trying to off load tickets for a shite game and get some good PR out of it! Shame on City IMO

I can see your point of view, but I think it is an OK move by the club, if one or two people can get a goodish day at Filbert Way when they have lost money they quite probably can't afford, that's all right by me. As you intimate, it's not going to cost the club anything.
 
I can see your point of view, but I think it is an OK move by the club, if one or two people can get a goodish day at Filbert Way when they have lost money they quite probably can't afford, that's all right by me. As you intimate, it's not going to cost the club anything.

It is good of them, I hope they give away any spare tickets over the festive period to all of those without. Not just the farepak families.
 
The moral of the story is that if you are concerned about christmas, open a high interest account and save for it yourself. Put a little away each week or month and buy all the stuff yourself.

These hamper schemes are a load of crap.

Many people are denied access to bank accounts by virtue of their personal circumstances - a similar range of exclusion applies to 'ordinary' credit facilities

The only choice some people have are the Farepak type schemes - or using the local dodgy moneylender who charges extortionate rates of interest

And spare me all your "We had it hard" comments.
You're sat on a feckin' computer, probably skiving within your stable employment - and wondering how many beers and pies to have when you go to Pride Park this weekend. Some of these poor feckers have nowt, and when they have tried to do something for their kids at Christmas they get shafted by the company folding

To be honest, giving 'em a few free tickets costs nothing to the club, given the amount of unsold tickets for every single game, but can provide a real lift to people left in misery (although a donation to the farepak fund would have been more welcome, I'm sure).
And there's no drawing the line - there is need everywhere so why do you feel the need to distinguish between one group or another and sit there pontificating and deciding who is the most deserving.

It's a good cause, it's a nice gesture, it costs nothing, and it brings a little joy into somebody's life

Unbelievable, some of you people
 
Well said, Homer

This is not an "either or" - nowhere can I find any mention of these tickets being taken from the allocation that regularly goes to kids. And no doubt some of the kids come from homes which have suffered not from an Unwise investment" but from somebody who decided, after donkeys years of farepak running the scheme, to pocket the money and not even keep records who who it had come from.

Where were all these comments when we learned of the tickets being handed out to students?
 
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And there's no drawing the line - there is need everywhere so why do you feel the need to distinguish between one group or another and sit there pontificating and deciding who is the most deserving.

Maybe my point wasn't well made, the way I meant it is why is it just farepak? The fact there is need everywhere is exactly my point. Just because they are in the headlines of newspapers the club hand them a wad of tickets, as i said what about the others?

Kids going without happens every christmas, the papers didn't give a crap then. I didn't see them asking for handouts for people then. That's where my comments come from not the fact the club are handing out free tickets.

Does the club give out tickets to charity on a regular basis, or is it just farepak? If they do then that's fair play to them. If they don't I find it sad, not that they are giving them to farepack but because it takes headlines in newspapers for them to do so.
 
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At the time the stadium was being planned, part of the "planning gain" was community involvement schemes. Part of that was a regular allocation of tickets to kids from deprived backgrounds. As that formed part of the planning consent, I presume it still continues.
 
At the time the stadium was being planned, part of the "planning gain" was community involvement schemes. Part of that was a regular allocation of tickets to kids from deprived backgrounds. As that formed part of the planning consent, I presume it still continues.

Cheers OG.
 
Many people are denied access to bank accounts by virtue of their personal circumstances - a similar range of exclusion applies to 'ordinary' credit facilities

The only choice some people have are the Farepak type schemes - or using the local dodgy moneylender who charges extortionate rates of interest

And spare me all your "We had it hard" comments.
You're sat on a feckin' computer, probably skiving within your stable employment - and wondering how many beers and pies to have when you go to Pride Park this weekend. Some of these poor feckers have nowt, and when they have tried to do something for their kids at Christmas they get shafted by the company folding

To be honest, giving 'em a few free tickets costs nothing to the club, given the amount of unsold tickets for every single game, but can provide a real lift to people left in misery (although a donation to the farepak fund would have been more welcome, I'm sure).
And there's no drawing the line - there is need everywhere so why do you feel the need to distinguish between one group or another and sit there pontificating and deciding who is the most deserving.

It's a good cause, it's a nice gesture, it costs nothing, and it brings a little joy into somebody's life

Unbelievable, some of you people


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It's unbelievable that we have families in poverty but the whole country rejoices in spending £8 billion hosting the fecking olympics....
 
It'll be wembley all over again.
 
I suspect the reason Silver or Babylon has the luxury of a computer is the same as most of us "stigs" at school, and that is exactly the same reason why I piss myself when I see those that used to take the piss out of me at school on the breadline, whilst I, the pauper, the lad without a Dad, the boy with the tissue in his shoes, is now holding down a job that is above the high income tax bracket with a nice big house and garden, happily married with 3 children. And that reason is because we have worked our way out of it and NEVER want to go back there.

So to aim that at Babylon is a weak argument. Nobody is saying these people are having it easy, but I do things about it every Christmas and never mention it, why do football clubs help out well publicised cases?. I help the homeless whenever I can and I help under priviliged kids, I don't however help those out that put their money into the wrong nest egg, maybe that makes me a horrible person, I don't know. But these people had the money and then gave it to somebody they don't know. Did they deserve to lose it?, no they didn't. Could they have avoided it?, yes they could

But, all credit to City for helping them out, I didn't
 
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It's unbelievable that we have families in poverty but the whole country rejoices in spending £8 billion hosting the fecking olympics....

£5.4 billion for ID Cards - so far that's all they will admit to. How many millions for that 'disaster' the Iraq war. :icon_roll
 
Many people are denied access to bank accounts by virtue of their personal circumstances - a similar range of exclusion applies to 'ordinary' credit facilities

The only choice some people have are the Farepak type schemes - or using the local dodgy moneylender who charges extortionate rates of interest

And spare me all your "We had it hard" comments.
You're sat on a feckin' computer, probably skiving within your stable employment - and wondering how many beers and pies to have when you go to Pride Park this weekend. Some of these poor feckers have nowt, and when they have tried to do something for their kids at Christmas they get shafted by the company folding

To be honest, giving 'em a few free tickets costs nothing to the club, given the amount of unsold tickets for every single game, but can provide a real lift to people left in misery (although a donation to the farepak fund would have been more welcome, I'm sure).
And there's no drawing the line - there is need everywhere so why do you feel the need to distinguish between one group or another and sit there pontificating and deciding who is the most deserving.

It's a good cause, it's a nice gesture, it costs nothing, and it brings a little joy into somebody's life

Unbelievable, some of you people

Did I say anything to condemn anyone. All I said was that it would be more sensible to put the money away yourself and that I did not think the Hamper schemes were any good.

Do I deserve this philanthropic rant. No I don't. I feel genuinely bad for people who have lost money...it really is a bastard. Nor do I sit here deciding who deserves what. I'm not qualified to make any such judgements. the only thing I ever learned from life is that you have to make it happen if you want something. No one deserves a damn thing.

Come off your high horse judging me and actually read what i wrote. if you can find any judgement or scorn in it then I will gladly apologise. I am no class warrior.
 
Instead of having a go at each other and the club have a go a the fecking crooks who ran this scheme. For good or ill many people saw this as a useful way of saving for Christmas. The scheme then goes bust just as it is supposed to start paying out, how can a savings scheme lose that much money ffs!! The bosses as usual manage to escape with their fortunes intact. Sir somebody or other who was chairman of Farepak is currently on holiday in Argentina at some £2k a night hotel. Have a go at him not at the poor sods who have been ripped off or those who are trying to help them.
 
Instead of having a go at each other and the club have a go a the fecking crooks who ran this scheme. For good or ill many people saw this as a useful way of saving for Christmas. The scheme then goes bust just as it is supposed to start paying out, how can a savings scheme lose that much money ffs!! The bosses as usual manage to escape with their fortunes intact. Sir somebody or other who was chairman of Farepak is currently on holiday in Argentina at some £2k a night hotel. Have a go at him not at the poor sods who have been ripped off or those who are trying to help them.

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