fishing pole's

[bocadillo]

Is that like buying a Ferrari and then realising youve got no money for the petrol??

I bought my first car - a brand new Mini Clubman for £888 - drove up north to my gran's golden wedding anniversary - and that had to leave it in the garage for the rest of the month because I had no money for petrol - and that was when it cost 32½p per gallon!

 

[bocadillo]

That's why he's skint!

thats why im skint :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

There's an echo... echo... echo in here!

 

[newtonfox]

Is that like buying a Ferrari and then realising youve got no money for the petrol??

no that due to taking daughter fishing :icon_evil

it wouldnt of happend if i had not taken her :icon_wink

 

[Melton Fox]

... whilst transporting fish half way around the world in plastic bags and keeping them in a little pond in the back garden is fine?

Shipping methods over the past few years have increased to the extent that mortalities are less than 0.1%.

A lot of it depends on the experience of the packers and the importers to bring the fish around from the trip.

During shipping fish are exposed to total darkness, thus virtually shutting the metabolism down and causing the fish to "hibernate" due to the release of melatonin (laymans terms).

Bags have now been developed to consume ammonia and release oxygen further improving the quality of the water of the fish wich are shipped.

What happens to the fish after it leaves the retailer is something we, as a trade, are working hard to police and it isn't easy.

But you are right, if we are ultimately thinking of the animal, we'll leave it in it's natural environment. But IMO there is a difference between what I do, and deliberately causing a fish physical pain purely for enjoyment.

 

[Durham Fox]

thats kids for you, break everything.

 

[newtonfox]

just a few shots i took on my phone from fishing Saturday

 

[newtonfox]

Shipping methods over the past few years have increased to the extent that mortalities are less than 0.1%.

A lot of it depends on the experience of the packers and the importers to bring the fish around from the trip.

During shipping fish are exposed to total darkness, thus virtually shutting the metabolism down and causing the fish to "hibernate" due to the release of melatonin (laymans terms).

Bags have now been developed to consume ammonia and release oxygen further improving the quality of the water of the fish which are shipped.

What happens to the fish after it leaves the retailer is something we, as a trade, are working hard to police and it isn't easy.

But you are right, if we are ultimately thinking of the animal, we'll leave it in it's natural environment. But IMO there is a difference between what I do, and deliberately causing a fish physical pain purely for enjoyment.

good job fish only have 10 second memories then

 

[Melton Fox]

just a few shots i took on my phone from fishing Saturday

I'm glad that person isn't aware that the acid on his hands is burning the skin of the fish, he wouldn't want that on his conscience whilst he's enjoying his day out, particularly as it a doitsu (Mirror Carp) and isn't protected by the scales :icon_wink

 

[Durham Fox]

good job fish only have 10 second memories then

I think thst widely accepted as bollox newts

 

[newtonfox]

thats kids for you, break everything.

would not have mined so much if i had not just told her to watch out for my pole :icon_evil ,she same runing over as i was bring a fish in :icon_roll my 9th of the day

 

[Melton Fox]

good job fish only have 10 second memories then

I won't respond constructively to that, I was hoping for a higher class of debate :icon_lol:

 

[newtonfox]

I'm glad that person isn't aware that the acid on his hands is burning the skin of the fish, he wouldn't want that on his conscience whilst he's enjoying his day out, particularly as it a doitsu (Mirror Carp) and isn't protected by the scales :icon_wink

good job our hands where washed in the lake water before picking the carp up then :icon_wink

 

[newtonfox]

I won't respond constructively to that, I was hoping for a higher class of debate :icon_lol:

what you on about ive forgot :icon_lol:

 

[newtonfox]

Shipping methods over the past few years have increased to the extent that mortalities are less than 0.1%.

A lot of it depends on the experience of the packers and the importers to bring the fish around from the trip.

During shipping fish are exposed to total darkness, thus virtually shutting the metabolism down and causing the fish to "hibernate" due to the release of melatonin (laymans terms).

Bags have now been developed to consume ammonia and release oxygen further improving the quality of the water of the fish wich are shipped.

What happens to the fish after it leaves the retailer is something we, as a trade, are working hard to police and it isn't easy.

But you are right, if we are ultimately thinking of the animal, we'll leave it in it's natural environment. But IMO there is a difference between what I do, and deliberately causing a fish physical pain purely for enjoyment.

so what you do is not harming the fish at all

 

[Melton Fox]

good job our hands where washed in the lake water before picking the carp up then :icon_wink

:icon_wink

What did you do to the grass before you laid the fish on it?, in fact, why did you lay the fish on it?

 

[newtonfox]

I'm glad that person isn't aware that the acid on his hands is burning the skin of the fish, he wouldn't want that on his conscience whilst he's enjoying his day out, particularly as it a doitsu (Mirror Carp) and isn't protected by the scales :icon_wink

top pic is a common carp the next as you said mirror

 

[Melton Fox]

so what you do is not harming the fish at all

No it isn't causing the fish any physical harm at all. It does however cause the fish a great deal of stress, and it's my job as somebody skilled in the art to ensure the fish is looked after properly during transit and upon arrival in the UK to ensure it recovers quickly and properly from the shipping.

As I said above, stess levels are now so low they are barely noticeable, but only if the shipping process is carried out correctly.

 

[newtonfox]

:icon_wink

What did you do to the grass before you laid the fish on it?, in fact, why did you lay the fish on it?

it was on the landing net if you look mate and it was there so i could remove the hook form its mouth

 

[Melton Fox]

it was on the landing net if you look mate and it was there so i could remove the hook form its mouth

FFS, the landing net is laid on the grass, and as an angler I expect you to know that nets have holes in. The % of grass touching the fish compared to the actual net is very, very high.

 

[newtonfox]

No it isn't causing the fish any physical harm at all. It does however cause the fish a great deal of stress, and it's my job as somebody skilled in the art to ensure the fish is looked after properly during transit and upon arrival in the UK to ensure it recovers quickly and properly from the shipping.

As I said above, stess levels are now so low they are barely noticeable, but only if the shipping process is carried out correctly.

but you Carnot be sure now can you ,unless your a fish whisper