Get off RK's back.

[OldGit]

Allegedly it is true, although I'd need confirmation. Rab is on £11000 a week for one....

We have no way of knowing how our budget compares with others, and no-one else does either - clubs are not in the habit of publishing budgets. All we can compare is history in published accounts (though even there the comparisons may not be entirely like for like)

 

[Dickovforengland!]

Rob Kelly was very clever when he publicly said he didn't want the job, he wrote his own get out clause and caviat that a lot of people have fallen for.

caveat

Kelly has had two bad runs and two good runs. When we haven't got Weso and Williams in the middle we are sh1t. The reason Stearman plays in the centre is because those two have been out.

 

[alex]

We have no way of knowing how our budget compares with others, and no-one else does either - clubs are not in the habit of publishing budgets. All we can compare is history in published accounts (though even there the comparisons may not be entirely like for like)

Fair enough OG, the chap I was talking to at the ground Sat'day claims his mate's on the board, put there from Pepsi to protect their interests, and the books were dire. The talk was again of Administration should MM pull out and we went down, he claimed the wage bill was thus. He also spoke about The Birch earning £35000 pa.....Ha ha ha, we're a funny club.

 

[Dickovforengland!]

Fair enough OG, the chap I was talking to at the ground Sat'day claims his mate's on the board, put there from Pepsi to protect their interests, and the books were dire. The talk was again of Administration should MM pull out and we went down, he claimed the wage bill was thus. He also spoke about The Birch earning £35000 pa.....Ha ha ha, we're a funny club.

Pepsi have the name for another 18 years or something and thats it, no interests. Martin Glenn (former top man at Pepsi) was a non-exec director and was there to advise out of a favour to Gary because they are good pals. I know because I used to play five-a-side with him (Martin Glenn not Links unfortunately) when I worked in their head office in Reading.

 

[Muzzy's Right Boot]

I'm fed up with this now, i don't care about how nice a bloke RK is. Look at the league. We are bang in the shite and we need sorting out.

MM was probably quite pleased we got tonked on Saturday because now if he comes in and makes massive changes i.e sacking the manager nobody is gonna have any grounds for argument!

Things are gonna get worse before they get better as well. Wolves next Saturday, that'll be a fun day out again

 

[SilverFox]

I reckon we will surprise Wolves possibly. Backs are against the walls now and surely some of the players at this club will realise that they can't keep calling that thing they have done over the past few games a 'performance'.

Come on Lads, we've got to work together to sort this shit!

 

[homer]

I reckon we will surprise Wolves possibly. Backs are against the walls now and surely some of the players at this club will realise that they can't keep calling that thing they have done over the past few games a 'performance'.

Come on Lads, we've got to work together to sort this shit!

I'm pretty sure we'll surprise 'em - they won't be expecting that level of incompetence in this league.....

 

[Durham Fox]

I dont know about the overall budget but I wouldnt be shocked to hear RD is on £11k a week. Levein was on £12k a week along with MdV, hence the reason we cant offload him permanently.

 

[alex]

Gareth Williams £8000 pw.....

 

[Durham Fox]

Gareth Williams £8000 pw.....

Apparently so yes. You dont have to add many of them together to realise we have a big bdget for this league.

 

[Redditch Fox]

Top post Homer, what makes me laugh is that Kelly is making exactly the same mistakes as Levein, players out of position, continually selecting certain favourites regardless of form, negative and dour tactics, unimaginative substitutions and yet the reasons Levein was so villified are deemed unfair to label at Kelly, we have not moved on from a year ago, in fact it is worse because Kelly actually appeared to have found the right formula only to have royally fecked it up big time this season.

And I refuse to accept that losing Joey Gudjonnsson is the difference, he was average at best last season and only stood out because of the dross.

It was very difficult not to give Kelly the job in the particular circs and i certainly thought it was the right thing to do - at the time.

However, I guess that anyone with any sense was doubtful whether it would work in the longer term

I have seen this club with a quite a number of managers where - sadly - they needed to be replaced with someone better. However it's difficult to remember many cases where it wasn't so obvious that the manager isn't right for the job.

The trouble is that the club is floundering really badly and people are scared of further upheavel - added to that there is this ' Kelly is a nice guy - and a good coach' factor. I'm prepared to take the first bit of that on trust, but as to the second bit - where is the evidence?

All I know is that the bottom line is that the club is making no progress whatsoever under Kelly and looks more likely to get relegated if he stays than if he goes.

 

[Granite Fox]

I have to disagree with nearly all of that post, especially this part. I have NEVER seen one personal attack on Rob Kelly, on this forum, nor any other. The general consesus is that he is a nice guy and genuinely cares for Leicester City. All the comments made have been on a professional level aimed at his managerial methods and abilities.

He is in a position that most of us would love to be in. He is the manager of one of the top 50 clubs in the UK, as a result, he is in a position to have criticism thrown at him, much the same as in a few years time when he will have praise thrown at him. I never wanted him in, I don't believe he saved us last season, I am entitled to criticise him publicly

Rob Kelly was very clever when he publicly said he didn't want the job, he wrote his own get out clause and caviat that a lot of people have fallen for.

I don't have a problem with anyone critcising him Melton - the current form of the team and style of play are bound to attract this. It's phrases like Kelly can feck off that I think are a bit strong.

I am sure he is trying his best - it just isn't good enough at present and his days are therefore numbered.

As someone else has said - there are bigger issues with the club as this is the third manager we are struggling with in this Division. I just hope that the money injected by MM will help to change things for the better.

 

[Redditch Fox]

It's phrases like Kelly can feck off that I think are a bit strong.

I am sure he is trying his best - it just isn't good enough at present and his days are therefore numbered.

As someone else has said - there are bigger issues with the club as this is the third manager we are struggling with in this Division. I just hope that the money injected by MM will help to change things for the better.

Absolutely right on all counts:

Kelly has done nothing to justify any abuse.

He has tried his best....and it's not his fault he isn't right for the job. Most of us wanted him to be given a chance though perhaps those close to the situation with responsibility - and if they were real football people - might have reacted differently and said "Thanks Rob, but we need to bring someone else in".

The big issues for the club are the total lack of quality leadership at management or board level since MON moved on and of course the inadequate funding of the football team......hopefully, MM represents at least a chance of addressing both of those issues.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

I think the biggest problem is that whilst many of the players will like RK as a bloke and possibly regarded him as one of the lads when he was coach, I don't believe that they actually respect or fear him as Manager and that is where the issues lie.

He is clearly out of his depth and this will be evident to the players and will make his job considerably harder. We need a manager with presence, confident in his own ability, maybe even a degree of arrogance and most of all the type of character that commands respect. IMO Kelly has none of these attributes at present.

 

[highland fox]

I think the biggest problem is that whilst many of the players will like RK as a bloke and possibly regarded him as one of the lads when he was coach, I don't believe that they actually respect or fear him as Manager and that is where the issues lie.

He is clearly out of his depth and this will be evident to the players and will make his job considerably harder. We need a manager with presence, confident in his own ability, maybe even a degree of arrogance and most of all the type of character that commands respect. IMO Kelly has none of these attributes at present.

Agreed,some of them need a kick up the Jacksie.If I was one of them and I just lost at home on a Saturday and showed little commitment then I'd want to lie low and not be seen out on the piss on a Saturday night

 

[norman leet]

Just a few quick points.........

1) Kelly is 100% responsible for the shambolic tactics, team selections and substitutions which is delivering drab, boring football and defeats.

2) Kelly is 100% responsible for the lack of motivation currently running through the squad.

3) We are fifth from bottom in a mediocre league again Kelly's responsibility.

4) Kelly is 100% responsible for failing to get the best out of a squad containing some pretty decent individuals including Logan, Stearman, McCarthy, Kisnorbo, Weso, Williams, Hughes, Hume and Fryatt, all individals who definately good enough at this level, yet the negative tactics continue to stifle and contain their natural ability.




Inteligent post, well done

Kelly will always be able to hold his head high after the fine turnaround last season, however judging on his results since he was appointed full time have been terrible, you have to ask how much was down to Levein going.

At present the current situation mirrors the fianl days under Levein, players not interested, ill discipline and desperate post match comments from the manager.

I respect your loyalty to Kelly but we have to be honest at present we are in freefall and the players are clearly not playing for Kelly, it is a recipe for disaster.

 

[alex]

I don't have a problem with anyone critcising him Melton - the current form of the team and style of play are bound to attract this. It's phrases like Kelly can feck off that I think are a bit strong.

I am sure he is trying his best - it just isn't good enough at present and his days are therefore numbered.

As someone else has said - there are bigger issues with the club as this is the third manager we are struggling with in this Division. I just hope that the money injected by MM will help to change things for the better.

Completely agree. That was out of order.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Completely agree. That was out of order.

Football is a passionate sport and on many occasions raw emotion can overtake and often lead to people posting and venting some fairly strong opinions.

 

[Yorkshire Vixen]

Football is a passionate sport and on many occasions raw emotion can overtake and often lead to people posting and venting some fairly strong opinions.

i quite agree

 

[Redditch Fox]

Agreed,some of them need a kick up the Jacksie.If I was one of them and I just lost at home on a Saturday and showed little commitment then I'd want to lie low and not be seen out on the piss on a Saturday night

To be honest, I don't think Kelly's comments about us being unlucky and they couldn't have done much better are very shrewd either.

It is never acceptable to lose 1-4 against a mediocre outfit like Wednesday.

The only messages that Kelly is giving out is that he is either shell shocked or too soft on a bunch of highly paid under-performing players - almost all of whom are not worthy to pull on a Leicester City shirt.