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It's actually sad that you've been taken in by the IPCC report. That report was done by approx 2500 scientists. When the US was asked to sign the Kyoto agreement 17000 scientists signed a petition to stop the US signing. 8000 of those scientists work in the areas of marine life, air quality etc etc, and also NASA. They point to the fact that climate change is a natural phenomenom, the ice age for starters, then the 800's ad when the ice melted and Greenland was first populated.
There are also many ways of solving the problem of CO2 emisions. In the 1970's a German company first invented a conversion kit for diesel engines so that they could run on recycled vegtable oil, yet this is not promoted by any government. This conversion kit is now easily obtainable.
In the last few days certain groups have now begun protesting about the use of vegtable oil to run vehicles, this was after a plane flew from the UK to europe using a substitute fuel. They are now complaining that using vegetable oil will increase food prices, yet they don't mention recycled vegetable oil. These people want it both ways and wont be happy until we're all back on push bikes.
Don't be taken in by the IPCC report, it was constructed by hand picked scientists, where as the petition against the US signing the Kyoto agreement was done by choice.

Don't be taken in by 1000's of measurements of Arctic and Antarctic polar ice showing exponential increase in atmospheric GHG's which have been peer reviewed in Nature and the New Scientist? What interest do the UN have in "scare mongering". Trust the most polluting nation on Earth and 1000's of scientists who work for the likes of Amoco and Connoco Phillips? I know who I see as more impartial.

I'm with Hector on this one, not that anyone probably doubted that.

Its real, its caused by humans, we need to minimise the effects and adapt.
 
Don't be taken in by 1000's of measurements of Arctic and Antarctic polar ice showing exponential increase in atmospheric GHG's which have been peer reviewed in Nature and the New Scientist? What interest do the UN have in "scare mongering". Trust the most polluting nation on Earth and 1000's of scientists who work for the likes of Amoco and Connoco Phillips? I know who I see as more impartial.

I'm with Hector on this one, not that anyone probably doubted that.

Its real, its caused by humans, we need to minimise the effects and adapt.

I've heard this argument that these 17000 scientists work for conoco etc, but nobody actually knows that. IMO, that is just a head in the sand argument.
Either way, if the powers that be were truely worried about climate change they would be advocating the use of engine converters and the like. The world is rapidly running out of fossil fuels, maybe the melting of the ice caps is just so that we can reach the natural oil and gas that is said to be in abundance under them. Natural evolution. I personally think that there should be more concern over the way the world is becoming over populated rather than whether we are going to be living in a Mel Gibson ''Waterworld'' in the future.
 
Look, the world will probably nuke itself in to perpetual winter before the worlds changing weather gets us.

What does piss me off is I am forced in to a Kryton Factor test to recycle all my rubbish in to god knows how many bags and boxes whilst Buses shove out tons of thick black shyte all day AND Princess Andrew humps his golf clubs around the world in fecking empty jet aircraft. :mad:
 
i don't think anyone is debating that carbon dioxide creates a greenhouse effect and humans put a lot of carbon into the atmosphere

the points up for debate are how badly this will affect the atmosphere and how much fluctuation there will be from other sources (sun spots, volcanos...)

and nobody really knows what the next few years will bring

personally, i think hard cold economics will kick in at some point, if the ecosystem goes to pot and we stand a good chance of dying out... you'd be surprised how a civilisation of 6 billion can come up with a technological solution

nuke a volcano, put up a reflective geo-stationery shield... necessity is the mother of invention, something that looks expensive won't look expensive when it's that or the end of the world
 
I'l;l be glad when this global warming kicks in...... I'm ****ing freezing here
 
read as: Shit, this may not happen, at least as soon as we have been preaching, better get in an excuse now
 
Look, the world will probably nuke itself in to perpetual winter before the worlds changing weather gets us.

I like your upbeat assessment. :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_bigg
 
read as: Shit, this may not happen, at least as soon as we have been preaching, better get in an excuse now

Bet it doesnt stop the politicians "green" taxes though.
 
i reckon were doing ourselves a favour-if the worlds getting cooler its only fair if we try and heat it up to find the happy medium

i just farted for the cause
 
I think it's time you gave up the pretence of being a liberal if you're into this kind of mad Tory nonsense.
 
I think it's time you gave up the pretence of being a liberal if you're into this kind of mad Tory nonsense.

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