fitz
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Well said. The speculation and pure shite fueled by the media and twitter isnt great as it is either.
Helicopter crash at King Power
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Well said. The speculation and pure shite fueled by the media and twitter isnt great as it is either.
David Gwilliam
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A very sensible post Jeff. Apologies about being an unthinking offender.;
What you posted is something the media have already said. I was referring to a post I've edited that named the pilot.
ThaiSweetChilli
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My mistake.
ThaiSweetChilli
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https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/so...posed-by-leicester-helicopter-crash-1.3678953
There can’t be a weirder television experience than watching Sky Sports News reporting live on a tragic incident, the tone of the coverage not markedly different to what you might find on the channel on transfer deadline day. With a similar dearth of facts. And hours and hours of speculation to fill the gaps.
In fairness, live reporting on tragic incidents isn’t their area of speciality, but still.
“You have to say, can anyone survive that? We’ll keep you posted at Sky Sports News!”
That live rewind button is handy: it allowed viewers to double-check that Rob Dorsett had indeed uttered that line. Alan Partridge might even have thought it a bit doltish.
By then you wouldn’t have been surprised if Rob had located Harry Redknapp to have a chat with him through his rolled-down car window about the night’s horrible events.
Mind you, the news channels weren’t faring much better. That rush to be first with the news, even if the news they share contains not a morsel of truth, is an affliction that shows no sign of abating.
Leicester City owner was on crashed helicopter
“If it’s confirmed that the Leicester City chairman – and I now understand from reports that the manager might have been on board, too – what does that suggest for the future of the club?” a BBC newsreader, whose name went uncaught, asked a reporter at the ground.
So, not only was she repeating unfounded rumours that Claude Puel was on the helicopter, she was wondering what impact his demise might have on the club. That was sensitive. The only surprise was that she didn’t add: “Will it have an impact on their activity in the January transfer window?”
Twitter journalism
Meanwhile, over on Sky News. “There are some reports from Twitter that this may be the helicopter of the owner,” said the newsreader, confirming that the behemoth of a news organisation now uses Twitter eggs as sources. This is possibly not an ideal development.
Back on SSN, Rob found a fan by the name of John. “As a Leicester City supporter, this is really worrying,” he said to him.
“It’s awful,” said John. “No one wants this, do they? They’ve been vital to our success.”
By now you really wanted SSN to pack up their trucks and go home. But they were there for the whole night, and in between the ceaseless speculating, they were wandering about the place sticking microphones in fans’ faces and asking them how sad/worried they were.
“We don’t want to speculate too much, if at all, about who was on board,” said Rob. “There’ll be next of kin and family and friends worried about loved ones right now.” And then SSN began listing out every person who might possibly have been on the helicopter.
Queasy tummies
Later, Rob allowed us strike two names from the list, like it was a game of bingo: “I do have a crumb of comfort for Leicester City supporters because two people who weren’t on board were Jon Rudkin, the director of football, and Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha, the vice-chairman.”
Tummies queasy at this point.
Come morning, Gary Cotterill was on duty for the channel at Leicester’s ground and with nothing at all officially confirmed, he began wondering out loud if the crash was due to pilot error. No, he did, honest.
Then Rob reappeared. “What more do we actually know about what happened?” he was asked. “Very little,” he confessed, so SSN filled some time by interviewing their cameraman Dan, who had filmed the helicopter in flames. “The pictures are disturbing,” we were warned, but they showed them anyway and reminded us, lest we didn’t catch it the first 39 times, that it was Dan their cameraman who had filmed the helicopter in flames.
By mid-afternoon, the only thing we knew for certain was that rolling sports news channels really shouldn’t do live reporting on tragic events.
There can’t be a weirder television experience than watching Sky Sports News reporting live on a tragic incident, the tone of the coverage not markedly different to what you might find on the channel on transfer deadline day. With a similar dearth of facts. And hours and hours of speculation to fill the gaps.
In fairness, live reporting on tragic incidents isn’t their area of speciality, but still.
“You have to say, can anyone survive that? We’ll keep you posted at Sky Sports News!”
That live rewind button is handy: it allowed viewers to double-check that Rob Dorsett had indeed uttered that line. Alan Partridge might even have thought it a bit doltish.
By then you wouldn’t have been surprised if Rob had located Harry Redknapp to have a chat with him through his rolled-down car window about the night’s horrible events.
Mind you, the news channels weren’t faring much better. That rush to be first with the news, even if the news they share contains not a morsel of truth, is an affliction that shows no sign of abating.
Leicester City owner was on crashed helicopter
“If it’s confirmed that the Leicester City chairman – and I now understand from reports that the manager might have been on board, too – what does that suggest for the future of the club?” a BBC newsreader, whose name went uncaught, asked a reporter at the ground.
So, not only was she repeating unfounded rumours that Claude Puel was on the helicopter, she was wondering what impact his demise might have on the club. That was sensitive. The only surprise was that she didn’t add: “Will it have an impact on their activity in the January transfer window?”
Twitter journalism
Meanwhile, over on Sky News. “There are some reports from Twitter that this may be the helicopter of the owner,” said the newsreader, confirming that the behemoth of a news organisation now uses Twitter eggs as sources. This is possibly not an ideal development.
Back on SSN, Rob found a fan by the name of John. “As a Leicester City supporter, this is really worrying,” he said to him.
“It’s awful,” said John. “No one wants this, do they? They’ve been vital to our success.”
By now you really wanted SSN to pack up their trucks and go home. But they were there for the whole night, and in between the ceaseless speculating, they were wandering about the place sticking microphones in fans’ faces and asking them how sad/worried they were.
“We don’t want to speculate too much, if at all, about who was on board,” said Rob. “There’ll be next of kin and family and friends worried about loved ones right now.” And then SSN began listing out every person who might possibly have been on the helicopter.
Queasy tummies
Later, Rob allowed us strike two names from the list, like it was a game of bingo: “I do have a crumb of comfort for Leicester City supporters because two people who weren’t on board were Jon Rudkin, the director of football, and Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha, the vice-chairman.”
Tummies queasy at this point.
Come morning, Gary Cotterill was on duty for the channel at Leicester’s ground and with nothing at all officially confirmed, he began wondering out loud if the crash was due to pilot error. No, he did, honest.
Then Rob reappeared. “What more do we actually know about what happened?” he was asked. “Very little,” he confessed, so SSN filled some time by interviewing their cameraman Dan, who had filmed the helicopter in flames. “The pictures are disturbing,” we were warned, but they showed them anyway and reminded us, lest we didn’t catch it the first 39 times, that it was Dan their cameraman who had filmed the helicopter in flames.
By mid-afternoon, the only thing we knew for certain was that rolling sports news channels really shouldn’t do live reporting on tragic events.
Feriol
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I have to agree with this, the fact that this has happened in the football universe has meant the media as treated much like a sporting spectacle, perhaps in a manner more fitting for Amarty's injury. The fact that i have been regularly refreshing news sites means i have been guilty of encouraging this but i think it really needs to dealt with much more sensitively. This is a tragedy regardless of the industry the people work in, they have families, and they might be the other side of the world as yet unaware. Also the people incorrectly and indiscriminately speculated to be on board have families who would have been desperate for news, and unduly distressed.
This is a tragedy not a spectacle.
Like all on here and many more I want answers and i want to show my support to those who are suffering, but the flood of rumours and vague (provocative and suggestive but baseless) reporting is only adding to peoples pain.
Brown Nose
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Brown Nose
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I miss Lee's writing in the Mercury. Here are his thoughts today - worth reading:
https://news.sky.com/story/leicester-city-fans-love-vichai-for-his-deeds-not-his-words-11538249
https://news.sky.com/story/leicester-city-fans-love-vichai-for-his-deeds-not-his-words-11538249
Jenks
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Beautiful, considered, poignant words. An excellent, thought-provoking read that bought tear to my eye.
Lako42
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Finally, a classy piece of writing.
I'm still feeling incredibly low, I'm hoping that confirmation can be be made at some point in the near future for the sake of everyone who is touched by this in some way.
So important that the fans show their complete and continued support for the club and family.
Leicester City Football Club needs it's family more now than it ever has in aa game of football.
I hope anyone who has Potentially lost someone in this tragedy can feel the warmth and genuine support of the Leicester People and feel some level of comfort.
LeeCovFox
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I hadn’t really felt that upset about this, until trying to sleep tonight. I was sad, of course. It’s tragic but felt distant enough that it felt like a horrible thing that happened to somebody you know of but weren’t close to. Horrendous, hope the family get through, life goes on.
Now I’m lying in bed next to my sleeping partner and I can’t shake the “what it was her” feeling. Just imagining the void left is quite frightening enough. It all feels so fragile.
I know this is particularly self-indulgent and I suppose my point is that five families are now experiencing the most severe sense of loss. They are doing so because their loved ones came to watch our football club, in our city, in whatever capacity.
I think that gives us a responsibility to find a way of showing them all that we care deeply. Perhaps their loved one was here for the first time. Regardless, the circumstance of their demise makes them one of us now, forevermore.
Now I’m lying in bed next to my sleeping partner and I can’t shake the “what it was her” feeling. Just imagining the void left is quite frightening enough. It all feels so fragile.
I know this is particularly self-indulgent and I suppose my point is that five families are now experiencing the most severe sense of loss. They are doing so because their loved ones came to watch our football club, in our city, in whatever capacity.
I think that gives us a responsibility to find a way of showing them all that we care deeply. Perhaps their loved one was here for the first time. Regardless, the circumstance of their demise makes them one of us now, forevermore.
Urban fox
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For what its worth and to nip speculation in the bud, the helicopter reg G-VSKP is an AW-169 first registered in 2016 and therefore practically brand new. The latest CAA held data shows that it had completed around 280 flying hours apparently. This helicopter is not the older 2009 model registration G-LCFC
camberwell fox
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I heard on the news that the ‘black boxes’ have been recovered from the crash site.
At least we will know why.
At least we will know why.
Urban fox
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yes. just a couple of minutes ago according to BBC, the air accident investigators have now recovered the digital flight data recorder. One assumes that any relevant findings downloaded from this will be made known once the data has been fully analysed. I am still finding it hard to believe that such a relatively new machine suffered a catastrophic failure of this sort. (My immediate thought at the time was a possible bird strike to the tail rotor, but that is highly unlikely as it was dark at the time, and also the down drought from the main rotors would push birds away unlike a jet engine which can suck them in.) I would imagine that the results will be fairly quick as, if a mechanical fault is the culprit, they usually want to issue an immediate recall (grounding) for other all other similar models to be checked for obvious reasons.
To the best of my knowledge (which is not extensive) this model and its close cousins have an excellent safety record to date.
To the best of my knowledge (which is not extensive) this model and its close cousins have an excellent safety record to date.
Volpone
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In the aftermath of that incident, theories arose suggesting their drone could have been responsible.
However, Leicestershire Police have now insisted their drone was not in operation when the chopper took off following Leicester’s 1-1 draw with West Ham.
On Twitter, Leicester Police Events said: "We do deploy a drone for public safety purposes on some match days.
"However, we have confirmed that the drone was not in flight at the time the helicopter left the stadium on Saturday evening."
What I still cannot understand is that the police definitely had at least 2 drones in the air as crowds were leaving the stadium. Why are they talking about 'a drone' and 'the drone' as if they only had one?
The one near Aylestone Road and very close to the crash site had red lights, as described in my post earlier in this thread. The one near the Citroen garage had green lights.
Also, a witness has said that a policeman approached the stricken helicopter and tried to smash a window. This was obviously before it exploded. Where did he appear from and how come he was so close?
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