Post Match Leicester 0 West Ham 2

[homer]

if these useless fecks can’t be moved on, will they disrupt and undermine whoever else comes in.

Morgan, Simpson, Fuchs, Benny, Hamer, and more, should not be anywhere near starting for an ambitious premier league team aiming to finish in the top 8. They are squad players.

Simpson hasn't played for a few games now, during which we've the ridiculous sight of Albrighton playing in his place, Fuchs has hardly played for months as Chilwell has played almost non-stop. Hamer and Benalouane haven't played at all

So they are already squad players

Are you saying the last few weeks of utter dross has been due to a load players who haven't been playing - and the solution is selling them, so everything will then be good again ?

 

[big_mac4824]

Of course that's true - the majority of the current squad will be here next season, like it or not because that's how football works

I wish people would stop going on and on about a fantasy massive clear out of players, as if it's even remotely possible

FFS stop it

homer whether they move on via sale or loan that will definitely happen, if not they rot in the reserves until their contract is up.
The fact is that there are players at our club that are a ****ing disgrace and are not putting a 100% in. To say they are poor because of Puel is utter bollocks he has lost the dressing room and the chairman has a decision make.

 

[Miles Away]

homer whether they move on via sale or loan that will definitely happen, if not they rot in the reserves until their contract is up.
The fact is that there are players at our club that are a ****ing disgrace and are not putting a 100% in. To say they are poor because of Puel is utter bollocks he has lost the dressing room and the chairman has a decision make.

Wait the manager losing the dressing room isn’t the managers fault?

 

[Brown Nose]

homer whether they move on via sale or loan that will definitely happen, if not they rot in the reserves until their contract is up.
The fact is that there are players at our club that are a ****ing disgrace and are not putting a 100% in. To say they are poor because of Puel is utter bollocks he has lost the dressing room and the chairman has a decision make.

I'd genuinely be interested to see you list our squad with a percentage against each name telling us how much effort you think each has put into this season?

 

[big_mac4824]

Wait the manager losing the dressing room isn’t the managers fault?

Yes it is however it is a two way street

 

[big_mac4824]

I'd genuinely be interested to see you list our squad with a percentage against each name telling us how much effort you think each has put into this season?

BN some have been going through motions some just are not good enough, tell me other than Vardy Mahrez Maguire what other premiership clubs would be calling to sign our players?

Puel has clearly lost the squad and will go however there appears to be a perception that the players are justified to play to the standard that they are.

 

[homer]

Who are they, please tell me

Which players are a '****ing disgrace' ?
Which are the group of useless fecks who are disrupting and undermining the manager, who is desperately doing his best but clearly failing just because of them ?

Who are we talking about ?

 

[Brown Nose]

BN some have been going through motions some just are not good enough, tell me other than Vardy Mahrez Maguire what other premiership clubs would be calling to sign our players?

Puel has clearly lost the squad and will go however there appears to be a perception that the players are justified to play to the standard that they are.

We differ because you think that Puel is giving the players instructions and they are failing to carry them out. I don't think he's giving them instructions at all and they're having to make it up on the pitch as they go along.

My view is evidenced every game by the way the players talk to each other and the lack of communication from their leader. Yours is on the basis of some lazy horseshit reporting over a year ago that you recycle to explain every poor performance.

Puel has admitted that the players are lacking confidence and that is apparent to anyone. They were brimming with it half a season ago. Where has it gone do you think?

 

[big_mac4824]

Who are they, please tell me

Which players are a '****ing disgrace' ?
Which are the group of useless fecks who are disrupting and undermining the manager, who is desperately doing his best but clearly failing just because of them ?

Who are we talking about ?

ah the manager is falling short of the players epic standards? must have been Ranieri as well Homer we have gone from playing poorly to being totally obliterated and that is totally down to Puel?

West ham have been shocking all season we did not even turn up yesterday, Morgan, Simpson are totally passed it Puel was stupid to think they could assist bringing the club towards a more possesson based game the pair of them struggle to pass a ball 5m.

Mahrez has been woeful all season and looks totally disinterested, Gray has not been consistent yet gobbld of about not being selected. Other than Vardy our strikers are not good enough to compete in the top half. Albrighton has been okay but has been played out of position lately Ndidi and Maguire have been outstanding this season and is a huge plus point.

it is 80-90 % Puels making everyone can see that, the players need to take a long hard look at themselves imo and it is just my imo hence the point of this forum!

regardless of what happens I feel we need around 8 players of real quality or a top half season finish next year will be a good result.

 

[big_mac4824]

We differ because you think that Puel is giving the players instructions and they are failing to carry them out. I don't think he's giving them instructions at all and they're having to make it up on the pitch as they go along.

My view is evidenced every game by the way the players talk to each other and the lack of communication from their leader. Yours is on the basis of some lazy horseshit reporting over a year ago that you recycle to explain every poor performance.

Puel has admitted that the players are lacking confidence and that is apparent to anyone. They were brimming with it half a season ago. Where has it gone do you think?

BN agreed but do you think they are actually turning up? they should know how to adapt and revert to what works in games I get they follow the managers gameplay but if it is not working during the game they should be able to change.

it is as though they couldn' care less and that is piss poor in my book

 

[homer]

So Morgan, Simpson, Mahrez and Gray ?

They are the toxic four that have disrupted and undermined the manager for the past six months

 

[big_mac4824]

So Morgan, Simpson, Mahrez and Gray ?

They are the toxic four that have disrupted and undermined the manager for the past six months

I did not say that I stated they have been poor!

 

[Brown Nose]

BN agreed but do you think they are actually turning up? they should know how to adapt and revert to what works in games I get they follow the managers gameplay but if it is not working during the game they should be able to change.

it is as though they couldn' care less and that is piss poor in my book

Ah, now we're getting somewhere. So, you accept that they are being poorly led. Your next pitch is that, despite this, they should be able to work it out themselves on the pitch and win anyway?

I'm afraid that the evidence is that footballers are indoctrinated to obey and follow orders. Speak to any professional footballer and they will tell you this. It is not a good thing for them to have free will and choose what to do for themselves. We can argue about the relative merits of this but that's a universal truth in the game.

As Simpson and Morgan were half of a title winning defence only two years ago, you suggest they should be able to play better than they have done. I'd agree if they were being asked to do what they were two years ago. However, they are both being asked to play in a style that they've never been able to throughout their careers. I think it is very harsh to blame them for this. It's like criticising a butcher for not being able to bake. It's still food after all.

On Mahrez, did you notice that he was selected in the FIFA 18 squad of the year the other day? - (https://www.lcfc.com/news/677858/mahrez-named-in-fifa-18-premier-league-team-of-the-season) He was the only player from outside the top six teams to be included, apart from Pope at Burnley. Where would we be without his ten goals and eight assists do you think?

On Gray, I am not inclined to defend him one bit. I've never liked him since he joined and have said as much here multiple times. He's a fraud of a footballer and has been for multiple managers. If we ever do need to depend upon characters such as him, we will be relegation fodder.

 

[big_mac4824]

I think Mahrez has been poor for a while now he is easily the most gifted player I have seen at our club that is why I am so annoyed I think.

in relation to Puel his introduction of possesson based football and the constant selection of Morgan over Dragovic has cost him his job.

For the record Morgan And Huth were simply outstanding when we won the league it may just be me but as soon as Huth was out of the side Morgan has been a loose cannon. positionally poor and technically lacking I think his hamstring injury has not recovered and he has lost a yard.

if Simpson is first choice next season I will be amazed we have not recruited well again barring the obvious additions. I do not blame them I am pointing out that they are not good enough unless we revert to moving the ball out of defence rapidly and go back to 30-40% possssion.
Puel will go I have no doubt I still have a horrible gut feeling that most of the squad ate putting in 50 percent.

 

[Micky]

ah the manager is falling short of the players epic standards? must have been Ranieri as well Homer we have gone from playing poorly to being totally obliterated and that is totally down to Puel?

West ham have been shocking all season we did not even turn up yesterday, Morgan, Simpson are totally passed it Puel was stupid to think they could assist bringing the club towards a more possesson based game the pair of them struggle to pass a ball 5m.

Mahrez has been woeful all season and looks totally disinterested, Gray has not been consistent yet gobbld of about not being selected. Other than Vardy our strikers are not good enough to compete in the top half. Albrighton has been okay but has been played out of position lately Ndidi and Maguire have been outstanding this season and is a huge plus point.

it is 80-90 % Puels making everyone can see that, the players need to take a long hard look at themselves imo and it is just my imo hence the point of this forum!

regardless of what happens I feel we need around 8 players of real quality or a top half season finish next year will be a good result.

1. Morgan and Simpson are not past it.
2. Maguire has not been outstanding.
3. Mahrez has had a good season in a poorly organised team and we know he wants to leave - good luck to the lad.
4. Puel is 100% to blame for the recent horrific performances.

 

[Robin127]

Actually, Vardy clearly fouled him first by shoving him in the back. should have been a free kick to the Hammers.

I disagree with that, he was already one his way over when Vardy made contact with him. He did handle the ball but it was outside the box and I think it was one of those where it was a bit difficult for him not to, in my opinion the ref got it right.

 

[homer]

I did not say that I stated they have been poor!

You said there are players at our club who are a ****ing disgrace

So if it's not that four which ones are they ?

 

[bocadillo]

I disagree with that, he was already one his way over when Vardy made contact with him. He did handle the ball but it was outside the box and I think it was one of those where it was a bit difficult for him not to, in my opinion the ref got it right.

The ball was outside the box when he started to handle it but the offence continued inside the box so it should have been a penalty. Nor was it difficult for him to avoid handling; he grabbed the ball as he fell after losing the challenge. If the offence had been completely outside the box, he should have been sent off for denying a goalscoring opportunity.

Whichever of our three views of the incident is preferred, the ref got it wrong.

 

[LES Fox]

You said there are players at our club who are a ****ing disgrace

So if it's not that four which ones are they ?

Performance wise Ndidi, Vardy, Mahrez (in patches), Maguire, Iborra (later version), and to a much lesser extent Ozakaki and Albrighton, are the only players to come out of this season with credit. The academy break throughs get a pass.

Too much player power exists behind the scenes, we’ve become a club that pay over the odds in wages and transfer fees. A summer shake up is needed top to bottom, otherwise we’re at serious risk of relegation and repeating Sunderland who have contracted players like Rodwell not playing, yet earning £80k a week in the First Division.

 

[homer]

Performance wise Ndidi, Vardy, Mahrez (in patches), Maguire, Iborra (later version), and to a much lesser extent Ozakaki and Albrighton, are the only players to come out of this season with credit. The academy break throughs get a pass.

Too much player power exists behind the scenes, we’ve become a club that pay over the odds in wages and transfer fees. A summer shake up is needed top to bottom, otherwise we’re at serious risk of relegation and repeating Sunderland who have contracted players like Rodwell not playing, yet earning £80k a week in the First Division.

So who exactly are the 'disruptive players at the Club who need to be moved on', and please tell us how they have been disruptive

And I'm genuinely interested - you seem to have some information about players being disruptive, so i'd like to hear it