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Post Match Manchester City 5 Leicester 1

LeeCovFox

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Redknapp has over 300 Premier League appearances. Given has over 400. They may or may not spout shite but they are on the panel because they've been there, done it. Steph Houghton plays for Man City ladies team. By all means ask for her expertise on women's football, but she knows feck all about the Premier League and that's what she's being asked about.

It's tokenism. She isn't there on merit. And my point remains, why not have a token gay, muslim or disabled footballer on there instead / as well? What's the difference?
I’d not object to anybody who knows what they are talking about. Jamie Redknapp and Given may have played lots of top flight games but it clearly hasn’t given them any advantage in the punditry stakes as both are crap at it.

I don’t disregard playing experience as being relevant so long as the pundit is articulate and does something other than state the obvious. Not very many ex-players tick those boxes. There are many who haven’t played who watch a lot of football and can talk fluently and informatively about the game.

A player is useful insofar as they might be able to describe how a player thinks about or reacts to a given situation. Their perspective can be valuable. But playing experience in the Premier League shouldn’t be enough on its own to suggest that somebody like Houghton (who I didn’t watch, incidentally) has any less value in the studio.

Jamie ****ing Redknapp, for ****’s sake.
 

City Fan

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I refuse to believe that you can both be that dense. My point is about mis-placed diversity and tokenism. If they'd put a member of the Man City disabled team on the panel, would that have been relevant too?

I also think the decision to give Phil Neville the England job a disgrace. There are plenty of better qualified women that should have got the job ahead of him.
I refuse to believe that you can be that dense that you think your post is acceptable in this day and age.
 

Jeff

Administrator
Staff member
I refuse to believe that you can both be that dense. My point is about mis-placed diversity and tokenism. If they'd put a member of the Man City disabled team on the panel, would that have been relevant too?
It's about what they know, rather than who they are. If she can provide insightful analysis, then why not use her?
Did she come across as clueless? If so, you might have a point.

I switched off as soon as the final whistle went, I didn't want to have to see all the goals again.
 

City Fan

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At least BN’s total chauvinism has distracted us all from the shambles that was our performance tonight.
 

looney

Member
Embarrassing . Appalling tactics from the off. Desire and commitment lacking, in fact I can't remember such an appalling lack of organisation and effort. And I'm soaking wet.
 

camberwell fox

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Redknapp has over 300 Premier League appearances. Given has over 400. They may or may not spout shite but they are on the panel because they've been there, done it. Steph Houghton plays for Man City ladies team. By all means ask for her expertise on women's football, but she knows feck all about the Premier League and that's what she's being asked about.

It's tokenism. She isn't there on merit. And my point remains, why not have a token gay, muslim or disabled footballer on there instead / as well? What's the difference?
That’s disgusting. You can’t have a cripple on the panel without Glen Hoddle on there describing Karma, can you?
 

Brown Nose

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It's about what they know, rather than who they are. If she can provide insightful analysis, then why not use her?
Did she come across as clueless? If so, you might have a point.

I switched off as soon as the final whistle went, I didn't want to have to see all the goals again.
Thank you for at least addressing my point. All three of the panel were clueless and ill informed. She was no better or worse than the other two in that regard.

Sky, BT and the BBC have never to my knowledge had a policy of selecting pundits on the basis of the quality of their insight. I assume that they are exclusively selected because of their ability to maintain or increase viewing figures and/or their availability.

If Sky are trying to increase their female viewing figures and are doing this for that purpose, it may make some sense.
 

bloo

Active Member
I refuse to believe that you can both be that dense.
Oh I'm sure you can believe it. o_O

Seriously though, why shouldn't she be there? Her opinion and perspective is different to that offered by former Premier League professionals. Not wrong, just different. Personally, I like that. I genuinely don't see it as tokenism. I see it as a positive thing. It shows that women can have a voice, it probably inspires some in that way. I don't have a problem with it in the slightest.
 

Jeff

Administrator
Staff member
If Sky are trying to increase their female viewing figures and are doing this for that purpose, it may make some sense.
Why do you think that would increase female viewing figures?
Surely they'd be watching it for the football.
 

Rock Fox

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Pep and the rest of the viewing public must realise that our entire team (+ subs) is unlikely to meet the £80 million valuation on that performance. I thought at beginning of season we would finish 8th - have doubts about that now after the last 3 'performances'
 
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