Post Match Manchester United 4 Leicester 1

[fitz]

I think they mean he is more god-like in commanding our defenders. Like a puppet-master.

He's their eyes. Without Kasper they can't see the person next to them moving.

 

[FIF]

From the Great Escape onwards, our defence has probably played close to 50 games together.

Are you suggesting that without Schmeichel they fall to bits and forget what to do?

I thought Ziegel had a great game and was not at fault for any of the goals. I am sure he shouted and marshalled the defence just like Schmeichel does.

3 goals were from corners FFS. That is nothing to do with the goalie and everything to do with man marking and being the right side of the player when the ball comes in.

If you noticed, in defence our backs come inside to force the opposition out wide so they have to make crosses that Morgan and Huth normally deal with with ease.

I am sure some of the training on Monday will be on defending set pieces. I am sure Porto had their TV recorders running, so will be looking to take advantage.

Of course I know I got shot down and castigated for suggesting it the first time, but there is always the Hernandez option as a defensive midfielder with a devastating throw, if Amartez and King are not cutting it.

It is you know. I think he had a decent game and wasn't directly to blame for the goals but unlike you I don't know if he shouted and marshalled the defence like Kasper. I don't think Kasper is very good with crosses but I have no idea what Zieler was like. The Hannover fans (Germans) that I know told me his weakness is marshalling the defence. Only time will tell.

 

[FIF]

Forget Jeffie's 2 - I'm still wondering how anyone could score any of the back four a 5 or above

Jebus, what a complete shower of shite

It's pretty easy to critisize others when you post nothing yourself.

I'm just giving my opinion, when you grow a pair you can give your grades on the players and let's see if everyone agrees with you.

For me 5 is just below average on the 1 - 10 scale I use. For most of the game each individual player did okay - except Jeff of course. I can understand you and others seeing it differently, shame all you've said is that they were crap (paraphrasing)

 

[FIF]

Was pretty poor today considering how much we paid. Yes, I know he has to fit in and actually have a decent supply in to him, but I was hoping for better even this early on for that price. Maybe I'm expecting too much.

Better than 2 in 2.

 

[FIF]

Is this the same Kasper who folk criticise for not having command of his box and dodgy on set pieces? He's suddenly become the enforcer and Kante a 9ft Crouchesque figure of aerial dominance today. The worst offenders today were regulars of last season.

agreed

First half he was and I wouldn't have complained if both forwards had gone off. Second half he did step it up but we were pissing in the wind by then.

agreed

Spot on

This has nothng to do with Amartey, Slimani or Zeiler

Morgan, Huth, Simpson, Fuchs, Vardy, Mahrez, Albrighton. Complete and utter wank today, the lot of them

for all 90 mins. I'm surprised we didn't lose "72-0" then.

 

[homer]

Must post my player ratings....

Jebus, what a complete twat

 

[fitz]

Must post my player ratings....

Jebus, what a complete twat

Rolf

 

[FIF]

Must post my player ratings....

Jebus, what a complete twat

You don't need to. They are all "complete wank"

If that isn't the most twattish comment on here ...

 

[fitz]

 

[Motown Fox]

 

[spionfox]

Better than 2 in 2.

When both of those came against Burnley, yes.

And he has two in three actually!

 

[Moose]

Is this the same Kasper who folk criticise for not having command of his box and dodgy on set pieces? He's suddenly become the enforcer and Kante a 9ft Crouchesque figure of aerial dominance today. The worst offenders today were regulars of last season.

I don't know who folk is and I've not said he's an 'enforcer'. All I'm saying is that we are usually pretty good at dealing with corners and balls in from wide. Today we were terrible at it. Maybe everyone had a bad day together, or maybe the change in goalkeeper had an effect. I don't know either way, I'm just raising possibilities. So get off your high horse. You don't know the answer any better than I do.

 

[Brown Nose]

For me 5 is just below average on the 1 - 10 scale I use

Why not try my scale, I rate player performances against types of spider. I find this a much more rounded and thorough analytical technique. So -

Zieler was just like a Braken Bat Cave Meshweaver
Simpson a Two-spotted Cobweb
Morgan a Hobo
Huth a Long-jawed Orbweaver
Fuchs dithered like a Johnson Jumper
Mahrez drifted like a Striped Lynx
Amartey gave a performance that reminded me of the Long-bodied Cellar
Drinkwater evaded criticism with display akin to a Southern Black Widow
Albrighton was a Spined Microthena
Slimani a Pantropical Jumper
Vardy meanwhile could only merit a Three-banded Crab

Gray introduced an element of the Elegant Crab
King a Brown Recluse
Schlupp was much more worthy of a Triangle Weaver

 

[fitz]

I don't know who folk is and I've not said he's an 'enforcer'. All I'm saying is that we are usually pretty good at dealing with corners and balls in from wide. Today we were terrible at it. Maybe everyone had a bad day together, or maybe the change in goalkeeper had an effect. I don't know either way, I'm just raising possibilities. So get off your high horse. You don't know the answer any better than I do.

Get her...

 

[Ike O'Noclassed]

Lovin' the Arse playing N'Golo's Chelsea off the park. Certainly puts our defensive incompetence into perspective, though not our attacking one.

 

[harrowfox]

I hope the team laid into each other after the game the way many of you on here have done with each other.

But then I hope they've kissed and made up ready to kick Porto off the park on Tues.

X

 

[TornadoShaunUK]

They nicked one of our best players. Now we are shit without him and they are still shit with him. ****ers! Out of all the top sides this year only Man City look relatively solid in all areas...

 

[fox58]

First visit to OT. Nice looking stadium and not too expensive (by football standards). Shockingly poor atmosphere from the home fans and they all looked miserable walking out of the stadium. Strange people.

I enjoyed 'champions of league one, you'll never sing that'.

Other than the 20 mins when we let in 4 I didn't think we looked that bad (honestly!). Drinky was great. Tactics from Claudio at HT were correct (but I might have taken off Slim rather than Vardy if it wasn't for the CL). Ref was poor. Zieler should have done better for the first but not at fault for the rest.

I'd agree with all of that, the game must look completely different on T.V.

 

[Volpone]

Sounds like Claudio is having the drains up at a meeting with the players tomorrow to find out what is going wrong. I am expecting and hoping for a galvanised performance against Porto on Tuesday.

 

[Mawsley]

Could be worse, we could be Cov.