Post Match Manchester United 5 Leicester 2 EFL Cup

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Brown Nose said:
I'm properly on the wobble about Cooper.

We're shipping goals all over the place and he's saying that we're playing well and there are just a few individual errors.

He was also asked (not for the first time) about the obvious structural defensive problem. He just goes on about getting back on the training ground. Hmm.

If we lose on Saturday, I reserve the right to go full blown Cooper out.
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God help the forum!
 
I think it is easy to overlook that whilst we are shipping goals we are actually one of extremely few teams to have scored in every league game this season.

Scoring in the premier league is what most promoted teams struggle with.
 
Just watching the highlights

- What a hit from Casemiro
- Lovely hit from Al Khannouss as well
- Unlucky deflection but Meh
- Bollocks from Okoli for 5.

We move on.
 
Brown Nose said:
He was also asked (not for the first time) about the obvious structural defensive problem. He just goes on about getting back on the training ground. Hmm.
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What are you expecting him to say?
 
City Fan said:
What are you expecting him to say?
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Every opponent is exploiting our 'missing' full back problem.

After four months working with this group, I don't expect this to be something to 'work on'. It's bleeding obvious that it won't work.

My main issue is his half arsed version of last seasons approach. It will get us relegated.

I expected Cooper to be Cooper. Compact, pragmatic and exciting on the counter attack. We're just open and silly.
 
You compare that display and defensive shape/organisation compared to an EFL Cup tie v Liverpool last night. The regression is huge. The lack of proper coaching is evident - the players are the same fellas playing a similar quality as the example cited but the shape being used is utterly woeful. Ten games of the right hand side being exposed. He play two sitting midfielders yet there is very little protection.
 
City Fan said:
What are you expecting him to say?
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Well, usually he says 'it's on me'. He didn't last night. But it was.

It's obvious we disagree on a lot of stuff but I am genuinely intrigued. You must see that we are conceding in exactly the same way every single game. He's doing nothing to change our defensive approach and it is so easy for opposition managers to exploit. Many of us, including me, have praised the things he has done right, but there must also be criticism of the things he has done wrong, and there's a lot of those.

He and his team have done an appalling job in the transfer market and I know that you'll say he isn't responsible for that but he absolutely will have had much more of a say than people think in bringing in players; we've brought in complete dross. He's used the same defensive setup every single game since pre-season. It was obvious in those horrible, early pre-season games that it was never going to work and yet he has persisted with it. It's simply madness to expect that it will suddenly become a successful strategy.

I haven't in all seriousness, called for him to be sacked because that would have been daft at this stage. If, however, we don't beat Ipswich because we make the same mistakes yet again, then it'll be time for me and many others to jump aboard the Cooper out train.

I find his inability to learn anything quickly enough, and his use of substitutions so, so frustrating. I'm sure he has talents, he's showed them at other clubs in other situations but whatever they may be, they're not yet a match for what we need in our given predicament. We need to get the very basics right and we need a manager who can adapt quickly given the small number of quality squad options we have. I'm yet to see any sign of Cooper being that guy. That's not an 'agenda', it's simply looking at what's in front of me week in, week out and getting fed up of pissing away hundreds of pounds to watch the same show play out.
 
HFox said:
You compare that display and defensive shape/organisation compared to an EFL Cup tie v Liverpool last night. The regression is huge. The lack of proper coaching is evident - the players are the same fellas playing a similar quality as the example cited but the shape being used is utterly woeful. Ten games of the right hand side being exposed. He play two sitting midfielders yet there is very little protection.
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That’s impossible to argue against. Well, for the sane among us it is.
 
popillius said:
Well, usually he says 'it's on me'. He didn't last night. But it was.

It's obvious we disagree on a lot of stuff but I am genuinely intrigued. You must see that we are conceding in exactly the same way every single game. He's doing nothing to change our defensive approach and it is so easy for opposition managers to exploit. Many of us, including me, have praised the things he has done right, but there must also be criticism of the things he has done wrong, and there's a lot of those.

He and his team have done an appalling job in the transfer market and I know that you'll say he isn't responsible for that but he absolutely will have had much more of a say than people think in bringing in players; we've brought in complete dross. He's used the same defensive setup every single game since pre-season. It was obvious in those horrible, early pre-season games that it was never going to work and yet he has persisted with it. It's simply madness to expect that it will suddenly become a successful strategy.

I haven't in all seriousness, called for him to be sacked because that would have been daft at this stage. If, however, we don't beat Ipswich because we make the same mistakes yet again, then it'll be time for me and many others to jump aboard the Cooper out train.

I find his inability to learn anything quickly enough, and his use of substitutions so, so frustrating. I'm sure he has talents, he's showed them at other clubs in other situations but whatever they may be, they're not yet a match for what we need in our given predicament. We need to get the very basics right and we need a manager who can adapt quickly given the small number of quality squad options we have. I'm yet to see any sign of Cooper being that guy. That's not an 'agenda', it's simply looking at what's in front of me week in, week out and getting fed up of pissing away hundreds of pounds to watch the same show play out.
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That’s a very reasonable summary of the situation.
 
The circumstances are that 2 - 2 would have been a decent result. They scored one from a wicked deflection, another from a dreadful back pass and another that was blatantly and clearly offside.
 
Volpone said:
The circumstances are that 2 - 2 would have been a decent result. They scored one from a wicked deflection, another from a dreadful back pass and another that was blatantly and clearly offside.
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This may be the single most ridiculous, wibbletastic reasoning ever written on here. It's like a Superscout post.
 
popillius said:
This may be the single most ridiculous, wibbletastic reasoning ever written on here. It's like a Superscout post.
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I dunno, man. This seems like mid-table wibble by our standards. SuperScout, old school Joe_, jas — that’s the Man City/Barcelona/Madrid level stuff. This is just Bolton under Sam Allardyce.
 
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