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City not good enough - Megson

We may not be there yet but we will be. That is City manager Gary Megson's verdict after his first week in charge.


Megson is still gauging the personnel he has taken over, and when he was asked whether the squad has what it takes to get City into the top flight this season, his answer was brutally frank.


“Not as it is at the moment, not from what I have seen. But we have got to cope with that, and find a way of playing that suits everybody.


“People have got to accept that they will be judged on what they do, not what they have done or what they say. I have not changed it too much, and I certainly haven't changed it by choice as yet, but that will come.


“Right now they have the chance to stake their claims but, if they don't produce, they will be out and someone else will get the chance. That is not just football but life in general.


“The squad itself is too big, the quality is not there at the moment, and that is not a criticism of anyone else. It is the same at a lot of football clubs.


“This is a Premiership club in everything but status and the squad needs improving. We have 45 players and they are much of a muchness.


“It is not the squad but the team you can get out of it, and we have chucked away two points against QPR and, after a really good first half at Forest, we didn't play anywhere near as well.

But we won thanks to a couple of players coming on with a point to prove, and a bit of fortune. But mainly a tremendous desire to get through the tie.


“What we have to do is be successful short term which gives you the opportunity to take your time. You can't just say we want to be in the Premiership, you have to have a method of how to actually do that, and it is early days for me to say €˜Yes we can,' or €˜No we can't', but there are things that are decent, some things that have to change.


“I have been here only a week, a full week time wise, but not in the sense that I could make them do the work we need to do and would want to do.”


It was bizarre even by modern-day standards for a new manager to come in after only four games, and Megson joked at the time that his contract was “long-term, six-weeks”.


Now there is a new M&M, Megson and Mandaric, but the manager said: “It is not just the two of us. There is a lot of input from some very good people here. There is a demarcation line where everyone has their responsibilities, but there is always input.


“The ambition has to be all the same. I don't think anyone would disagree this club wants to be in the Premiership as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, 23 other clubs in the Championship feel the same and, rather than give a target, the question is can the team

actually achieve that? Will the team be good enough? We will see. We want to be successful short-term and long term. That is the target that has been set.


“It is like having a ladder and you are on the bottom rung and you want to get to the top, which means the Premiership, so how are you going to get there?


“You can't just state your intentions, you have to get a method and plan of what you want to do to climb that ladder to the top.”


If that's the fella's assessment after one week, I'm very optimistic. He's spot on.
 
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I agree with you to an extent, but to tar all the players in the squad with the same brush "We have 45 players and they are much of a muchness" hardly fills the squad with the confidence that often makes the difference between strugglers and achievers. A good manager can get the best from players, and I just don't like his approach on this one.
 
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i hope Hossein Kaebi plays tomorrow, i think megson doesnt really like him and doesn't want to play him, i dont think it has anything to do with this topic but i just want him to start for city and show this talent
 
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Much of a muchness but good enough to stuff the league leaders 4-1


Should give them a real confidence boost, that
 
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I'm disappointed, I thought this thread was about Geordie actor & all round terrible singer Jimmy Nail.
 
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i hope Hossein Kaebi plays tomorrow, i think megson doesnt really like him and doesn't want to play him, i dont think it has anything to do with this topic but i just want him to start for city and show this talent

He's only been there a week FFS. He's hardly seen the boke yet !!

Allen didn't play him, and must have seen a lot of him

So maybe, just maybe, he looks complete toss compared to the others in the squad
 
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I think he is just preparing the fans for the well we are still gelling and we are still getting to know the players speech after the 3-0 defeat on Saturday.

Kiebi wont play much this season at all IMO.
 
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I think he is just preparing the fans for the well we are still gelling and we are still getting to know the players speech after the 3-0 defeat on Saturday.

Kiebi wont play much this season at all IMO.


thats what i thought he sounded as if he knows we dont stand much chance of winning tomorrow unless its a spot of reverse psychology to get the players revved up etc
 
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I think he is just preparing the fans for the well we are still gelling and we are still getting to know the players speech after the 3-0 defeat on Saturday.

Kiebi wont play much this season at all IMO.

:081::081:

I agree with what he has said but i still dont think he is going to be any good as manager.

But...

You never know....:102:
 
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45 players??? OMG...

45 is a ridiculous number of players for a Championship club to have, especially when we have some vert talented Under 18s who could come in and do a job in a severe injury crisis. Unfortunately, as GM says, there are few standout good or standout bad players, so deciding who to get rid of is a tough job and actually getting rid will be even harder.
 
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45 is a ridiculous number of players for a Championship club to have, especially when we have some vert talented Under 18s who could come in and do a job in a severe injury crisis. Unfortunately, as GM says, there are few standout good or standout bad players, so deciding who to get rid of is a tough job and actually getting rid will be even harder.

I think he's included them, to be honest
 
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I have to say, that the assessment is spot on. I lost count of the summer signings, but how many are an improvement on what was here? Clemence stands out and perhaps N'Gotty.
The problem with a manager publically saying what Megson has, is that the players feel unwanted and it is hardly likely to get a string of other teams eager to buy the unwanted squad members. All those players whose services were to be discontinued in the summer; we told them that they had no future, but the majority of them are still on the payroll.
 
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I think his assessment is pretty spot on, whether he has done the right thing by releasing it into the public domain remains to be seen.

Also quite a clever tactic by Megson to try and dampen expectation and to try and buy himself time with both the supporters and Mandaric.

Whilst I agree with what he says, I still believe that the squad is pretty much on a par, if not stronger than many in the division and whilst we certainly lack the quality to run away with the title, I see no reason why we should not be challenging for the play offs. It seems that we still have this problem of having a squad with the talent to compete but we seem to lack the motivation, application and organisation needed to get the best out of them.
 
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I have to say, that the assessment is spot on. I lost count of the summer signings, but how many are an improvement on what was here? Clemence stands out and perhaps N'Gotty.
The problem with a manager publically saying what Megson has, is that the players feel unwanted and it is hardly likely to get a string of other teams eager to buy the unwanted squad members. All those players whose services were to be discontinued in the summer; we told them that they had no future, but the majority of them are still on the payroll.

but on the other hand it could force them to work harder and prove him wrong :102:
 
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but on the other hand it force them to work harder and prove him wrong :102:

Quite right, I'm fed up with listening to all that " they are a fantastic bunch a lads crap ". Also our good players ( there are some ) will know quite well that GM was not talking about them.
 
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Good to see what he actually thinks, I got fed up with all the candyfloss bullshit we used to get fed. If it upsets the players so what because they must think he is talking about them, so they had better do something about it.

Kaebi I have been told was struggling to settle with language problems etc, but he had a stormer against Oldham the other night, so fingers crossed
 
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