Michael Johnson

[bocadillo]

I am pretty sure we can send him back if he is injured,but MCFC can not recall him.

I've just had a look at the league regulations - http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20110629/section-6-players_2293633_2125731 - the section about loans starts at #52. It appears to be silent on the matter, but I would appreciate somebody having a second look.

 

[MidlandsFox]

I don't see how we could drop a midfielder who scored 15 goals last season and was generally excellent. I can see improving even more this season, especially considering he will have better players around him.

Last season means nothing now, its what happens this season that counts and Johnson is far better than King when fit.

 

[sparky79]

Great signing if fit. presents us with a big pot of players to choose from in midfield though.
Johnson, Abe, Danns, Wellens, King (Gelson). Potentially six very good standard centre mids there. Danns is the only one i can see playing wide right or left if needed.
Better than we had Jason Jarrett and Stephen Hughes in midfield!

 

[indierich06]

Can you send somebody back who is on a 1-year loan deal? Genuine question - I don't know the answer.

I'm pretty sure that as the loaning club we can terminate the loan at any time we like. Man City would be able to recall him too, unless there was a fee paid by the loaning club i.e. us.

 

[MidlandsFox]

I'm pretty sure that as the loaning club we can terminate the loan at any time we like. Man City would be able to recall him too, unless there was a fee paid by the loaning club i.e. us.

Like I said before it depends on what the clauses are, in the contractual agreement between the 2 clubs.

 

[camberwell fox]

Last season means nothing now, its what happens this season that counts and Johnson is far better than King when fit.

How do you know that?

 

[Kingy_85]

Where on earth is the risk? It's a loan, he's not gonna be on massive wages so it's surely worth a punt. If he gets injured or he's a bit of a duffer, send him back. It's the absolute opposite of risky.

Surely you can see a risk in there somewhere?

A teeny tiny risk?

 

[Kingy_85]

Last season means nothing now, its what happens this season that counts and Johnson is far better than King when fit.

when fit.... which is never.

 

[bocadillo]

I'm pretty sure that as the loaning club we can terminate the loan at any time we like. Man City would be able to recall him too, unless there was a fee paid by the loaning club i.e. us.

The last bit is certainly not so. The regulations make it clear that a full-season standard loan can only be recalled during the mid-season window and even then only if a recall clause has been included in the agreement between the two clubs. Payment or otherwise of a fee is totally irrelevant.

No recall can be made on a half-season standard loan.

 

[bocadillo]

Like I said before it depends on what the clauses are, in the contractual agreement between the 2 clubs.

We heard what you said before, but the contractual agreement has to be drawn up in accordance with the regs. Clubs can not agree for recalls that are not allowed by the regs. You make it sound as though clubs can agree on any clauses and that is the end of the matter when it certainly is not.

I think we should stop guessing.

 

[Kingy_85]

Confirmed on the OS ----->

 

[Cate Fox]

when fit.... which is never.

Well if he wasnt fit, they wouldnt take him on loan.

 

[Nottingham Fox]

Confirmed: http://talkingballs.co.uk/showthread.php/33942-Michael-Johnson?p=1049271#post1049271