Questions for the Foxes Trust

[newtonfox]

I think this response is about as credible as the role played by the Foxes Trust during the Mandaric takeover process.

There is undoubtedly a potential problem. We have an elderly owner who has set a relatively short timeframe for restoring the club to the premiership. That return would obviously boost the club's value and enable a potential and ultimately inevitable sell on.

Unfortunately, owing to on-going poor football management, the club's on the park fortunes have diminished rather than improved and the owner's timeframe now looks very optimistic indeed. It's a no brainer to work out that this could have very serious future implications for a high spending second or even third tier outfit.

I can see one certainty in this uncertain situation and that is that the Foxes Trust would neither be in a position to resolve the financial problems nor broker a financial solution and to be honest I don't think that it's in the Trust's interests to hint otherwise.

spot on RF

 

[Foxes_Trust]

I think this response is about as credible as the role played by the Foxes Trust during the Mandaric takeover process.

There is undoubtedly a potential problem. We have an elderly owner who has set a relatively short timeframe for restoring the club to the premiership. That return would obviously boost the club's value and enable a potential and ultimately inevitable sell on.

Unfortunately, owing to on-going poor football management, the club's on the park fortunes have diminished rather than improved and the owner's timeframe now looks very optimistic indeed. It's a no brainer to work out that this could have very serious future implications for a high spending second or even third tier outfit.

I can see one certainty in this uncertain situation and that is that the Foxes Trust would neither be in a position to resolve the financial problems nor broker a financial solution and to be honest I don't think that it's in the Trust's interests to hint otherwise.

We are not claiming to be able to either resolve the financial problems or be a main player in brokering this plan, but re-iterate we are aware of plans if MM walked away which we can't discuss further. We are only mentioning this to try to re-assure fans, not to claim credit for the plan. We know there are other posters on this message board who also have some awareness but may choose to keep quiet.

If no plan existed, then we would have be seeking parties to create one, but we had early awareness due to our contact network built since we formed.

 

[Disco Bob]

We know there are other posters on this message board who also have some awareness but may choose to keep quiet.

*shucks*

Aww, go on then - I am prepared to make my children go without a Happy Meal twice a week, that's all I said, and donate them to Matty.

I really don't want the celebrity that will ensue - but you seem to have opened the box so...so be it.

 

[Biffa Bacon]

We are not claiming to be able to either resolve the financial problems or be a main player in brokering this plan, but re-iterate we are aware of plans if MM walked away which we can't discuss further. We are only mentioning this to try to re-assure fans, not to claim credit for the plan. We know there are other posters on this message board who also have some awareness but may choose to keep quiet.

If no plan existed, then we would have be seeking parties to create one, but we had early awareness due to our contact network built since we formed.

I'd really like to meet the business recovery specialist who can develop a rescue plan without knowing the situation he is trying to rescue, can you please put me in-touch with him? The situation at city changes continuously and no-one except Milan and the management sees the current situation in detail.

You cannot plan to rescue a business without looking at the books, assessing the financial problems, reviewing commitments of the company etc.

I hope this was a joke posted after a few too many in the pub, if you really think that anyone has a detailed plan to rescue city you are deluded.

We will not be saved by a white knight throwing tens of millions of pounds at the club, it just doesn't happen.

 

[Dour]

We will not be saved by a white knight throwing tens of millions of pounds at the club, it just doesn't happen.

Did at Ipswich....

 

[Biffa Bacon]

Did at Ipswich....

I think you'll find that the backers of Ipswich are planning to make money out of the deal and have a robust business plan based on looking at the books and reviewing the clubs situation, I see no evidence that anyone has done this for city or can do it until the worst happens and the books are opened up due to administration or Milan receiving a suitable bid.

 

[newtonfox]

We are not claiming to be able to either resolve the financial problems or be a main player in brokering this plan, but re-iterate we are aware of plans if MM walked away which we can't discuss further. We are only mentioning this to try to re-assure fans, not to claim credit for the plan. We know there are other posters on this message board who also have some awareness but may choose to keep quiet.

If no plan existed, then we would have be seeking parties to create one, but we had early awareness due to our contact network built since we formed.

when is he off or are talking about his little holiday he mite be going on .

 

[Redditch Fox]

We are not claiming to be able to either resolve the financial problems or be a main player in brokering this plan, but re-iterate we are aware of plans if MM walked away which we can't discuss further. We are only mentioning this to try to re-assure fans, not to claim credit for the plan. We know there are other posters on this message board who also have some awareness but may choose to keep quiet.

If no plan existed, then we would have be seeking parties to create one, but we had early awareness due to our contact network built since we formed.

This has strong echoes of the stuff that the Trust was peddling in the period running up to the Mandaric takeover when you were continually hinting at alternative options. These proved to be hot air and then when this became painfully obvious to everyone you moved from an implicit position of trying to undermine Mandaric's takeover to one of rolling over to let him tickle your collective bellies.

You continue to posture about being involved in potential future rescues and then when challenged you retreat to a position of something like "It's not actually us Guv but we know about things that you don't".

There will always be people who will talk big in clubs and pubs about what they are going to do in hypothetical situations. But as pointed out above they don't have a clue what actual situation they would be confronted with at The Walkers.

All I can see is what has actually happened. Mandaric is getting on - he is an oldish man in a hurry - lots of money has been spent - lots of expenditure is committed - the club is up to its neck in debt - the players lack confidence and motivation so footballing results are appalling and we haven't got rid of another dud manager because we've already lost too many in the recent past and we are playing in a league where clubs like ours will lose money. I won't even factor in the possibility of relegation to the third tier.

Based on the above, any future financial rescue would be against a poor scenario - unless there is a massive upturn in playing fortunes with the quick prospect of premiership football...so I doubt very much that you are privy to contingency plans that could be turned into reality to resolve matters.

 

[Disco Bob]

What is the Foxes Trust's favourite flavour of Monster Munch?

 

[homer]

What is the Foxes Trust's favourite flavour of Monster Munch?

Can't answer that one

They'd have to survey all of their 500 members first - and even then they couldn't tell you the result unless you were a signed up member yourself

 

[newtonfox]

What is the Foxes Trust's favourite flavour of Monster Munch?

Can't answer that one

They'd have to survey all of their 500 members first - and even then they couldn't tell you the result unless you were a signed up member yourself

:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

 

[Redditch Fox]

What is the Foxes Trust's favourite flavour of Monster Munch?

The Trust itself isn't claiming to have a favourite flavour of Monster Munch.

However, it has become aware of other parties that do have definite preferences. but for reasons of confidentiality, it cannot reveal their favourite flavours. But you can be assured that these exist.

 

[bocadillo]

The Trust itself isn't claiming to have a favourite flavour of Monster Munch.

However, it has become aware of other parties that do have definite preferences. but for reasons of confidentiality, it cannot reveal their favourite flavours. But you can be assured that these exist.

You should go on the stage. Any more of your side-splitting humour on here and I shall split my sides.

 

[bocadillo]

You should go on the stage. Any more of your side-splitting humour on here and I shall split my sides.

For the avoidance of doubt and in respose to off-board queries, I write to say that this post was not designed to be sarcastic.

I think Redditch's post was very funny and it made me laugh. I just don't know however whether I should be laughing quite so much at my age.

 

[spionfox]

I just don't know however whether I should be laughing quite so much at my age.

I've seen what a person who has wet themselves looks like and it's not pleasant....

 

[bocadillo]

I've seen what a person who has wet themselves looks like and it's not pleasant....

I haven't done that for... eeerrr... days!

 

[Redditch Fox]

You should go on the stage. Any more of your side-splitting humour on here and I shall split my sides.

Thank you.

However, what really intrigues me is whether the poster(s) who make statements about 'insider' information realise how ludicrously pretentious their stances are, or are they simply taking the proverbial p-ss.

On balance, I would like to believe that it was the latter because then I could have a little more time for them.

This is an organisation that started with good intentions but then presumably a cliche of committee members got carried away with themselves. Then, they were obliged to sell their stakeholding to Mandaric and since then have been searching for a role.

I much prefer the dear old official and unofficial supporters club - back to the days when they had their own spot in the Filbert Street corner of the Popular Side. I particularly admire the way that their respective chairpersons always support the position of the manager right up to the point when he gets the sack - then say what a good idea it is to have appointed a new manager. At least they are completely transparent.

 

[Biffa Bacon]

Can you ask the club to paint the toliet walls again? The block walls are so depressing and are probably the root of our failings on the pitch.

 

[Si Nick]

Can you ask the club to paint the toliet walls again? The block walls are so depressing and are probably the root of our failings on the pitch.

Are you taking the piss, or is that the problem with the walls.......

 

[Biffa Bacon]

Are you taking the piss, or is that the problem with the walls.......

I usually take a piss in the bogs, the trust kicked up about the walls a few years ago, just thought that I'd try helping to get them back ontrack :icon_bigg