FOX Franks
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Probably worth noting that if we feel like this after a couple of nearly-there seasons, imagine what it’s like being a Spurs fan ...
Rodgers future...
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FOX Franks
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By the way if we don’t get top four, Brendan’s going to Spurs. He’ll feel it would be easier to get them back in than us in. That’s my feeling.
londonfox
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But they can be grumbled at when the team has been in the top for for almost the entire season. Expectations change as situations change. It is okay for a fan of “little old Leicester” to be disappointed at finishing 5th when for almost the entire season they were in 3rd place in the table.
in 2016 with 3 games to go I would have grumbled if you told me we would finish 2nd or 3rd. I wouldn’t have lifelong happy memories of that season we flirted with winning the Premier League. And having gotten us into the position where we should have won it and to fail I would have had every right to grumble.
I’m sick of this shit where fans of clubs like ours have to accept anything. Chelsea fans would have the right to be pissed of if they finish 5th. Utd fans can be upset at being 2nd. Even Arsenal fans are allowed to grumble at their club being outside the top four. But we just have to accept what happened last season and what looks like is happening again and be happy with what we get.
londonfox
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Rodgers really would be perfect for them then.
Richie_d123
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Difference is the big clubs have the resources and reputation to keep going after the best managers and trying again.
It's fine being pissed off but if we sack Rodgers i dont know how we improve on him.
Graz
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This, this, a million times this.
I would much rather be in this position and potentially balls up again than be 10th or lower or fighting relegation.
Let's just keep improving the squad to the point where we don't have this pressure on the final few games and then Brendan is great.
Miles Away
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We won’t be improving the squad if we fail to qualify. Quite the opposite.
Payne74
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Think my expectations would prefer it if we were comfortable mid table and a cup final with a decent chance of winning it rather than for the 2nd season running blowing a comfortable lead in the top 4 and collapsing in the last 6 games knowing confidence is on the floor with a bumming in front of the world thrown in
ThaiSweetChilli
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https://tbrfootball.com/report-leicester-join-tottenham-in-race-to-hire-lazio-boss-simone-inzaghi/
Inzaghi, 45, is just three appearances shy of clocking up 250 games in charge of Lazio. He is quickly establishing himself as one of the best in Italian football, after taking Lazio to the Champions League knockout rounds this term.
Of his 247 games in charge, Inzaghi has won more than half, with 133 victories to his name. Lazio is his only managerial job at senior level so far, but he performing well above expectation. Now, he could be on his way.
Lazio president Claudio Lotito is struggling to meet his demands. The report claims Inzaghi wants a three-year deal worth between £125,000 a week and £180,000 a week – including bonuses. Lazio are struggling to meet that.
That has alerted Premier League clubs Leicester and Tottenham to his signature. Inzaghi is high up among bookmakers for the Spurs job, while speculation grows surrounding Brendan Rodgers’ future at the King Power.
Largely, that is the reason behind Jose Mourinho’s demise. Inzaghi has seen his Lazio side score almost two goals a game – with 462 scored in 247. That is a decent amount of goals given the sheer quantity of games.
Focusing on Gareth Bale, Son Heung-min, Harry Kane and Dele Alli is going to take Spurs back into the top four – rather than relying on their shaky backline. Inzaghi would be a stellar appointment, and cheap.
Report: Leicester join Tottenham in race to hire Lazio boss Simone Inzaghi
Italian newspaper Corriere Dello Sport have claimed that Tottenham Hotspur have been joined by Leicester City in pursuit of Lazio’s out-of-contract manager Simone Inzaghi – as current talks with the Serie A side drag on.Inzaghi, 45, is just three appearances shy of clocking up 250 games in charge of Lazio. He is quickly establishing himself as one of the best in Italian football, after taking Lazio to the Champions League knockout rounds this term.
Of his 247 games in charge, Inzaghi has won more than half, with 133 victories to his name. Lazio is his only managerial job at senior level so far, but he performing well above expectation. Now, he could be on his way.
Lazio president Claudio Lotito is struggling to meet his demands. The report claims Inzaghi wants a three-year deal worth between £125,000 a week and £180,000 a week – including bonuses. Lazio are struggling to meet that.
That has alerted Premier League clubs Leicester and Tottenham to his signature. Inzaghi is high up among bookmakers for the Spurs job, while speculation grows surrounding Brendan Rodgers’ future at the King Power.
TBR’s view – Inzaghi could be just what Tottenham need
Tottenham need an attacking manager. Simple as that. Mauricio Pochettino worked because he focused on scoring more goals than the opposition, rather than relying on Tottenham’s shaky defence to stem the flow of goals.Largely, that is the reason behind Jose Mourinho’s demise. Inzaghi has seen his Lazio side score almost two goals a game – with 462 scored in 247. That is a decent amount of goals given the sheer quantity of games.
Focusing on Gareth Bale, Son Heung-min, Harry Kane and Dele Alli is going to take Spurs back into the top four – rather than relying on their shaky backline. Inzaghi would be a stellar appointment, and cheap.
parafox
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mabrah
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Unless BR has been taking repeatedly large dumps in execs cars and on boardroom tables, I really can't see the club looking for a new manager. Unless they know something about his intentions.
Nah, I might have minor niggles about him but I accept that he's been good for us, has us going in generally the right direction and is the right manager for us.
Nah, I might have minor niggles about him but I accept that he's been good for us, has us going in generally the right direction and is the right manager for us.
FOX Franks
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Michael Owen's a journalist now?
Brown Nose
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This article seems really appropriate for this thread:
Brendan Rodgers needs Leicester City to win the FA Cup and provide a blueprint for all British coaches
The Leicester boss says trophies will never change him, but a first in England would change his reputation and provide a rare victory for a homegrown coach
By Daniel Storey
May 14, 2021 12:08 pm(Updated 12:09 pm)
An interview with Brendan Rodgers in the Sunday Times last weekend opened with an apparently incidental anecdote. Speaking about his first days at Leicester City’s training ground in February 2019, Rodgers remembered a conversation with a group of cleaners.
“Your role is vital at this football club, for it is you who look after the environment we work in,” Rodgers said. “If you could find some way to move these boxes it would be incredible.”
This is pure, unadulterated Brendan Rodgers, or at least our perceived wisdom of him. He’s part football manager, part Instagram non-celebrity telling you that you can aim for the moon from some soulless pool in Dubai.
Ask a dozen followers of the Premier League which manager had given that quote anonymously and at least 10 would pick him; six of them would probably share the image on social media to much merriment. “There goes Brendan Rodgers,” we can imagine one cleaner saying to another after passing him in the corridor. “I must remember to thank him.”
But here’s the kicker: people do react positively to a human touch. Those cleaners probably did appreciate being made to feel important, because we all do: employees, friends, family, footballers.
And, for all the mockery, Rodgers is very good at it. When asked who the best man manager he had worked under was, Steven Gerrard did not pick Keegan, Dalglish, Evans, Houllier or Benitez, but a manager for whom he never reached a cup final and never won a trophy. He picked Rodgers.
Rodgers is the best British manager by almost every measure. He took Swansea City into the Premier League at the age of 38 in his first full season having spent less than £1m on new players and consolidated them in the top flight with a courageous dedication to possession football. He took Liverpool closer to their maiden Premier League title than anyone had before him.
He won all seven domestic trophies available to him as Celtic manager, made them the first Scottish Invincibles for 118 years and broke the record for the longest unbeaten domestic run in British football history. He took Leicester City from 12th in the Premier League to fifth in 15 months and may well go one step further this season.
But we cannot ignore the falls: Liverpool 2013-14, Leicester 2019-20. Because of who we believe Rodgers to be as a personality, not only do those late-season stumbles threaten to overshadow his successes but they are sold as an unshakeable element of his character. He is the moral tale of The Man Who Believed His Own Hype, Icarus insisting to Daedalus that the weakness of the wax could be dealt with by the power of positive thinking.
That’s not really fair. Liverpool began 2013-14 as 33-1 sixth favourites for the Premier League title. Leicester City were joint-eighth favourites to finish in the top four.
If Rodgers was guilty of anything, it was an inability to sustain emphatic over-achievement in circumstances that were, in financial terms, weighted against him. Liverpool signed one player for more than £10m in 2013/14 (Mamadou Sakho); Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City signed 11 for combined fees of £270m.
That makes Rodgers a product of modern football discourse, through which everyone but the winner becomes a victim of their own success. At Leicester City, you compete with a wage bill that is roughly 40 percent of the richest clubs in the country. You use your man management, tactical nous and the club’s scouting networks to punch above your weight. And then, when that eventually becomes unsustainable, you are labelled as a bottler. Progress is judged not by the journey but by the end result taken out of context of everything that came before it.
Rodgers has won trophies but never in England; that matters because of the Scottish tax that we impose upon success north of the border, sometimes fairly, sometimes not. The last decade of his career has been a sandwich of contrasting fortunes: his time in Scotland spent winning things but wondering if his reputation was improving, his time in England either side of it spent improving his reputation but wondering if he needed to win anything.
This remark may seem controversial, but it shouldn’t: British coaching needs Rodgers to succeed.
The last British manager to win one of the big three domestic trophies is still Alex Ferguson; no current serving British manager has won the domestic title, FA Cup or League Cup – Ferguson, Harry Redknapp, Graeme Souness, Steve McClaren, Kenny Dalglish and Alex McLeish have all weakened, waned or walked off into the sunset.
Rodgers barely had a playing career, began coaching immediately, travelled Spain as part of his studies, worked as a youth coach and assistant manager and then took a managerial role outside the top tier. If the English coaching system has a blueprint, Rodgers is it.
Rodgers has always insisted that trophies would never change him, reflecting upon the lives of his parents who worked for decades without trinkets or medals. But he is no fool; he knows that winning the FA Cup on Saturday would provide a definitive answer to an uncomfortable, unfair question.
British coaching would finally have an achievement on which to hang its hat. And it may spur Leicester City, those great overachievers, onto a Champions League gatecrash that the supposedly bigger clubs around them are so desperate to stamp out. For that alone, we should wish him well.
Brendan Rodgers needs Leicester City to win the FA Cup and provide a blueprint for all British coaches
The Leicester boss says trophies will never change him, but a first in England would change his reputation and provide a rare victory for a homegrown coach
By Daniel Storey
May 14, 2021 12:08 pm(Updated 12:09 pm)
An interview with Brendan Rodgers in the Sunday Times last weekend opened with an apparently incidental anecdote. Speaking about his first days at Leicester City’s training ground in February 2019, Rodgers remembered a conversation with a group of cleaners.
“Your role is vital at this football club, for it is you who look after the environment we work in,” Rodgers said. “If you could find some way to move these boxes it would be incredible.”
This is pure, unadulterated Brendan Rodgers, or at least our perceived wisdom of him. He’s part football manager, part Instagram non-celebrity telling you that you can aim for the moon from some soulless pool in Dubai.
Ask a dozen followers of the Premier League which manager had given that quote anonymously and at least 10 would pick him; six of them would probably share the image on social media to much merriment. “There goes Brendan Rodgers,” we can imagine one cleaner saying to another after passing him in the corridor. “I must remember to thank him.”
But here’s the kicker: people do react positively to a human touch. Those cleaners probably did appreciate being made to feel important, because we all do: employees, friends, family, footballers.
And, for all the mockery, Rodgers is very good at it. When asked who the best man manager he had worked under was, Steven Gerrard did not pick Keegan, Dalglish, Evans, Houllier or Benitez, but a manager for whom he never reached a cup final and never won a trophy. He picked Rodgers.
Rodgers is the best British manager by almost every measure. He took Swansea City into the Premier League at the age of 38 in his first full season having spent less than £1m on new players and consolidated them in the top flight with a courageous dedication to possession football. He took Liverpool closer to their maiden Premier League title than anyone had before him.
He won all seven domestic trophies available to him as Celtic manager, made them the first Scottish Invincibles for 118 years and broke the record for the longest unbeaten domestic run in British football history. He took Leicester City from 12th in the Premier League to fifth in 15 months and may well go one step further this season.
But we cannot ignore the falls: Liverpool 2013-14, Leicester 2019-20. Because of who we believe Rodgers to be as a personality, not only do those late-season stumbles threaten to overshadow his successes but they are sold as an unshakeable element of his character. He is the moral tale of The Man Who Believed His Own Hype, Icarus insisting to Daedalus that the weakness of the wax could be dealt with by the power of positive thinking.
That’s not really fair. Liverpool began 2013-14 as 33-1 sixth favourites for the Premier League title. Leicester City were joint-eighth favourites to finish in the top four.
If Rodgers was guilty of anything, it was an inability to sustain emphatic over-achievement in circumstances that were, in financial terms, weighted against him. Liverpool signed one player for more than £10m in 2013/14 (Mamadou Sakho); Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City signed 11 for combined fees of £270m.
That makes Rodgers a product of modern football discourse, through which everyone but the winner becomes a victim of their own success. At Leicester City, you compete with a wage bill that is roughly 40 percent of the richest clubs in the country. You use your man management, tactical nous and the club’s scouting networks to punch above your weight. And then, when that eventually becomes unsustainable, you are labelled as a bottler. Progress is judged not by the journey but by the end result taken out of context of everything that came before it.
Rodgers has won trophies but never in England; that matters because of the Scottish tax that we impose upon success north of the border, sometimes fairly, sometimes not. The last decade of his career has been a sandwich of contrasting fortunes: his time in Scotland spent winning things but wondering if his reputation was improving, his time in England either side of it spent improving his reputation but wondering if he needed to win anything.
This remark may seem controversial, but it shouldn’t: British coaching needs Rodgers to succeed.
The last British manager to win one of the big three domestic trophies is still Alex Ferguson; no current serving British manager has won the domestic title, FA Cup or League Cup – Ferguson, Harry Redknapp, Graeme Souness, Steve McClaren, Kenny Dalglish and Alex McLeish have all weakened, waned or walked off into the sunset.
Rodgers barely had a playing career, began coaching immediately, travelled Spain as part of his studies, worked as a youth coach and assistant manager and then took a managerial role outside the top tier. If the English coaching system has a blueprint, Rodgers is it.
Rodgers has always insisted that trophies would never change him, reflecting upon the lives of his parents who worked for decades without trinkets or medals. But he is no fool; he knows that winning the FA Cup on Saturday would provide a definitive answer to an uncomfortable, unfair question.
British coaching would finally have an achievement on which to hang its hat. And it may spur Leicester City, those great overachievers, onto a Champions League gatecrash that the supposedly bigger clubs around them are so desperate to stamp out. For that alone, we should wish him well.
Matt_B
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Pretty much sums up my thoughts of him. However crap you think Scottish football is, you don't get an invincible team as a bottler. Or his achievements with Swansea and Reading.
City Fan
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I didn’t disagree with the first two bits, but what achievement with Reading?
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