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camberwell fox

camberwell fox

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Well,

Here we are 5 league games into a new campaign and I'm fairly confident that when the last ball was kicked last season we wouldn't have envisaged having a new manager in place and being second bottom in the league.

The appointment of Sousa doesn't seem universally popular as his record prior to being appointed here isn't exactly outstanding. We are trying to play progressive attractive and attacking football. This was always going to prove difficult and would need time to achieve. PS may well have upset the apple cart somewhat as maybe some of the current squad can't see themselves adapting to this new style of play.

I am happy with the new style and what (I think) he is trying to achieve and applaud his ethics. In my opinion football is in the entertainment industry and the most attractive (and yes successful) teams fill their stadia week on week. So, should we not be patient and get behind Sousa in what he is trying to do?

Some fans never appear to be happier than when they have something to moan about, and I for one am embarassed by this.

How nice would it be that for the next 10-15 games we could show PS that we want the same as him, and this I would have thought would be promotion and competing in the premier league. How much better would it be if we could do this by playing attractive football?

Surely fans attending games at £25.00 a pop should leave feeling they have had value for money, I for one would much rather see a 4-3 than a 1-0, am I in the minority?

What do you all think?
 
camberwell fox said:
Well,

Here we are 5 league games into a new campaign and I'm fairly confident that when the last ball was kicked last season we wouldn't have envisaged having a new manager in place and being second bottom in the league.

The appointment of Sousa doesn't seem universally popular as his record prior to being appointed here isn't exactly outstanding. We are trying to play progressive attractive and attacking football. This was always going to prove difficult and would need time to achieve. PS may well have upset the apple cart somewhat as maybe some of the current squad can't see themselves adapting to this new style of play.

I am happy with the new style and what (I think) he is trying to achieve and applaud his ethics. In my opinion football is in the entertainment industry and the most attractive (and yes successful) teams fill their stadia week on week. So, should we not be patient and get behind Sousa in what he is trying to do?

Some fans never appear to be happier than when they have something to moan about, and I for one am embarassed by this.

How nice would it be that for the next 10-15 games we could show PS that we want the same as him, and this I would have thought would be promotion and competing in the premier league. How much better would it be if we could do this by playing attractive football?

Surely fans attending games at £25.00 a pop should leave feeling they have had value for money, I for one would much rather see a 4-3 than a 1-0, am I in the minority?

What do you all think?
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Depends on who wins those games because one things for sure, at the minute it isn't us.
 
Durham Fox said:
I doubt it but fingers crossed.

As for entertainment. It's secondary for me, can anyone truly say they go away happier losing 3-4 than winning 1-0? I doubt it.
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I don't know whether I dare answer that...
 
The longer we go without a league win, the more anxious the situation will become.
We have some right fickle barstewards as so called fans, that are a copy of society as we know it. They want it, and they want it now.
Patience is a word that seems to have been removed from the dictionary.

Last season some of the football was dross, and it didn't reap the reward of a win either. At times, we were bloody lucky we weren't stuffed out of sight by half time.

To win, and play entertaining football would be fantastic, at the moment it reminds me of the brief era of Mark McGhee, all fancy dan with no end product.

You can't blame the manager for everything though, like some indeed do. Poor defending, poor finishing, 50+ corners with no end product, poor ref decisions, poor service in the concourse blah blah blah......
 
Depends what you define 'entertaining' in the context of football. Passing it around sideways all game is hardly cutting edge and great to watch. However, a ding dong 3-3 draw could occur from a very direct style of play. An 'entertaining' game comes with the concession usually of poor defending and incident.

To use two games as examples, the goalless draw against Newcastle at the Walkers was a superb game to watch as a City fan. Plenty of passion showcased with not a lot of quality, entertaining all the same. The hard-fought win at QPR was the most gratifying victory for me last year yet it wasn't beautiful, flowing football. It was a battle.

Secondarily, my attitude changes with City compared to other teams. I watched Crewe v Stevenage last week; they were the total opposites of each other. Alex were very simple passing football and Stevenage were direct and set-pieces based. I enjoyed watching Crewe but they had very,very little end product. It must have been annoying to watch as a fan of the club. The same for me as a City fan.
 
Agree with Hazzman, what makes football entertaining as a supporter has absolutely nothing to do with a passing style or any other style of play, it's to do with drama and that can happen with any style of play.

The idea that we will win games 4-3 instead of 1-0 under Sousa just because we pass a lot is ludicrous, especially when his team had a reputation of winning 1-0 after 1-0 last season.
 
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Blimey, talk about a broken record :icon_roll

Being entertained is so completely irrelevant as to be untrue, compared to whether or not you win you the game. It is (literally) a pointless exercise - I couldn't give a flying feck about how entertaining we are, if we don't come away with the result.

The thing about Saturday's game is that, on the surface, we appeared to be more technically able to be a better team, and that can only be a good thing - albeit it was against an opposition who were truly hopeless in every department.

The one thing that pisses me off more than anything is when we concede possession needlessly, hoof the ball aimlessly, or fail to do even the most basic tasks competently. Against Cov we appeared to be more able to control the game and ended up dominating everything across the pitch. It was something we haven't done for years. Sadly, we lost all composure when we got to the final third, which fecked us up completely. Playing Waghorn wide right, or Fryatt at all in his current form, ain't gonna change that

Be interesting to see how we do tomorrow night, against a team who are genuinely decent from a technical perspective. If we can do the same, then the future might not be as bleak as I thought a couple of weeks ago

But as for 'entertainment', I really couldn't give a toss
 
if we are winning, i don't care how entertaining it is.
However, i really enjoyed us dominating the game away at Covscum, thought we passed and moved very well. If we combine that with winning games, i'll need to bring spare pants to the game.
 
Surely it isn't the tactics that made our strikers miss 10 of the 11 shots on target. If we can create that many chances every week, we will occasionally score 3 or 4 per game. It was a combination of poor finishing and good goalkeeping meant that we only got a point on Saturday, and that can't be blamed on Sousa.
 
LCFCmonkey said:
Surely it isn't the tactics that made our strikers miss 10 of the 11 shots on target. If we can create that many chances every week, we will occasionally score 3 or 4 per game. It was a combination of poor finishing and good goalkeeping meant that we only got a point on Saturday, and that can't be blamed on Sousa.
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Who blamed anything on Sousa? :102:
 
homer said:
Blimey, talk about a broken record :icon_roll

Being entertained is so completely irrelevant as to be untrue, compared to whether or not you win you the game. It is (literally) a pointless exercise - I couldn't give a flying feck about how entertaining we are, if we don't come away with the result.

The thing about Saturday's game is that, on the surface, we appeared to be more technically able to be a better team, and that can only be a good thing - albeit it was against an opposition who were truly hopeless in every department.

The one thing that pisses me off more than anything is when we concede possession needlessly, hoof the ball aimlessly, or fail to do even the most basic tasks competently. Against Cov we appeared to be more able to control the game and ended up dominating everything across the pitch. It was something we haven't done for years. Sadly, we lost all composure when we got to the final third, which fecked us up completely. Playing Waghorn wide right, or Fryatt at all in his current form, ain't gonna change that

Be interesting to see how we do tomorrow night, against a team who are genuinely decent from a technical perspective. If we can do the same, then the future might not be as bleak as I thought a couple of weeks ago

But as for 'entertainment', I really couldn't give a toss
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I watched a very technically capable Doncaster side last month play some lovely interpassing football and matched us in most areas. We created slightly more scoring chances and ended up winning 4-0. The difference was what we did with those chances.

Very entertaining game but ultimately satisfying because of the result and whilst Doncaster fans must be happy with the style they play and even their results this season, they'll just be a mid division team if they dont convert chances into points. Their attack doesn't scare anyone, and I'm afraid you're in a similar position. That has to be Sousanne's priority because no matter what style you play, it has to be capitalised upon up front.
 
anybody who comes away from a game they have just lost and is happy, because it was good football is a complete twat in my mind, and should be classed as a neutral. If this 4-3 loss where we played such good football was against Forest, derby or cov would you think the same?

With football, it is all about your team winning and nothing else. Who gives a **** about how they do it as long as they do it. I would welcome drab 1-0 wins every week, week in week out. I bet the Arsenal fans loved it all those years ago.

Any win and we are all in good moods, a loss is completely the opposite however good we played.
 
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Boy Genius said:
anybody who comes away from a game they have just lost, be it good football or bad is a complete twat in my mind, and should be classed as a neutral. If this 4-3 loss where we played such good football was against Forest, derby or cov would you think the same?

With football, it is all about your team winning and nothing else. Who gives a **** about how they do it as long as they do it. I would welcome drab 1-0 wins every week, week in week out. I bet the Arsenal fans loved it all those years ago.

Any win and we are all in good moods, a loss is completely the opposite however good we played.
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So you are a complete twat if your team loses ? :icon_lol:
 
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