Should he stay or should he go?

[bocadillo]

Devil's advocate again....Whilst I agree with you on the Fernandes loan termination, I don't necessarily agree with the reasons for Abe leaving. He may well have been homesick, but you're more likely to miss home if you are not playing regularly and when Pearson first arrived he was frozen out of the squad. I think he was one of the most under valued players at this club and I think we could and should have done a lot more to keep him.

Please take it from me that Abe's return home was as a result of homesickness and and nothing else. It was not because Sven left; it was not because Pearson took over. It was not because he was not in the team; it was not because he felt undervalued. Effort was made to keep him at the club; to have made more effort would have been to ignore the feelings of the player and would not have been productive.

Inevitably somebody will yell "Source?", but that's my last word on the matter.

It was teriyaki obviously.

 

[bocadillo]

There's far too much hype & over expectations at Leicester

And therein lies the rub.

 

[Redditch Fox]

What were his comments at the end of the game?

I refer you to Lazzer's comment. I took Pearson's remark to refer to Beckford - as i guess everyone else did. It's no good me or you asking Pearson because as he said its now a private matter.

 

[Babylon]

He said on camera it was private matter and would be dealt with in private.

So nobody knows anything and it could all be one massive mountain out of a mole hill.

 

[bocadillo]

Based on some direct observation and also on reports -I would also say that Beckford plays when he feels like it. A couple of old stagers have picked up with the parallel with how Allan Clarke played for the club in the 1968/69 season. I'd go along with that. About the only time that Clarke put in a proper shift for the club was in the famous FA Cup semi final 1-0 victory against Liverpool at Hillsborough.

Clarke was voted Man of the Match in the Wembley final, despite finishing on the losing side; I think this supports your point that he played when he wanted to.

 

[Redditch Fox]

Clarke was voted Man of the Match in the Wembley final, despite finishing on the losing side; I think this supports your point that he played when he wanted to.

I attended the match - and had forgotten that.

As I recall we had about four league games to play after the final and needed to win 3 of them to stay up. Clarke didn't turn up for those and I seem to recall that he was replaced by Ally Brown who put in a tremendous effort.

 

[Uncle Connolly]

Absolute stay.

I've said it for more than a month now but it's some time until August, and we have plenty of time to plan ahead of other teams who don't know their fate such as Premier League clubs fighting relegation.

Removing Pearson and the management team now would be absolutely ridiculous and add to the lack of stability we have suffered as a club from season to season.

 

[gregs_y2k]

Please take it from me that Abe's return home was as a result of homesickness and and nothing else. It was not because Sven left; it was not because Pearson took over. It was not because he was not in the team; it was not because he felt undervalued. Effort was made to keep him at the club; to have made more effort would have been to ignore the feelings of the player and would not have been productive.

Inevitably somebody will yell "Source?", but that's my last word on the matter.

It was teriyaki obviously.

I accept he was homesick. I am making the suggestion that homesickness is more likely to come about in a player that has suddenly been dropped for an extended run of games than a person that is continually involved.

 

[H T B]

Bring in a new manager, he doesn't like the current crop of players, buy's players more suited to "his style".
After 6 months it doesn't "appear" to be working.
Sack him, pay him off,
new manager comes in, doens't like the new current crop of players, buy's players more suited to "his style".
After 6 months it doesn't appear to be working.
Sack him, pay him off.
Chopping and changing is an expensive game.
When do you say, enough is enough. Give the bloke in charge some time. ( I say 2 to 3 seasons, minimum.)

 

[bocadillo]

As I recall we had about four league games to play after the final and needed to win 3 of them to stay up. Clarke didn't turn up for those and I seem to recall that he was replaced by Ally Brown who put in a tremendous effort.

I think your memory is a little awry on the detail. There were many matches during the season where Alan Clarke did not 'turn up' but he was in the starting line-up and stayed on the pitch for the whole of the 90 minutes of all five games that we played after the cup-final. He only missed 6 games in the whole season and at least some of them were as a result of getting sent off against Burnley early on.

Ally Brown played in two games, not as a replacement for Clarke, but in addition to both Clarke and Andy Lochead - we really were taking the attacking route in the desperate attempt to avoid relegation. You're right though about the effort that Oooolay oooolay put in - there can't be many players who score twice in their top-flight debut. It was a stark comparison to that of Alan Clarke who seemed to live only for the big games. The main thing that I remember about Clarke at the end of that season was the disruption caused by his refusing to join the players' pool (It was normal at that time for players to pool any fees which resulted from a Cup final appearance and to share them equally amongst the squad).

I think the comparison between Clarke and Beckford is a good one.

 

[indierich06]

I accept he was homesick. I am making the suggestion that homesickness is more likely to come about in a player that has suddenly been dropped for an extended run of games than a person that is continually involved.

Why's that then? I'm genuinely interested. If I was playing football in a foreign country and I got dropped, it wouldn't make me homesick, it'd make me want to work hard and get back into the side. However, spending 18 months away from my family would certainly make me homesick, especially after the earthquake which was fairly recent too. I wouldn't want to miss my children growing up, which is the reason he wanted to go home and fair play to him.

It feels like you're trying to blame Pearson for Abe leaving the club, when it just doesn't appear to be the case. In my opinion, he would have left either way.

 

[Mawsley]

A lot was made of the indiscipline within the squad under Sven and also his lack of leadership. When Pearson came back a lot of posters commented on the fact that he wouldn't stand for any previous failings. I don't know what the issue is with Mills but one would assume it was not
based on performance. Then we had the Beckford incident which could be perceived as
petulance or as most who attended described as exhaustion. Then we get comments from the
fans regarding Pearsons attitude towards his players and how many more players is he going to upset. The point is if he is to manage then he has to lead and if that means upsetting a few
players then so be it.

The point, for me, is if he is to manage then he has to lead and if that means upsetting a few Radio Leicester listeners then so be it.

I'm delighted at the poll result.

 

[gregs_y2k]

Why's that then? I'm genuinely interested. If I was playing football in a foreign country and I got dropped, it wouldn't make me homesick, it'd make me want to work hard and get back into the side. However, spending 18 months away from my family would certainly make me homesick, especially after the earthquake which was fairly recent too. I wouldn't want to miss my children growing up, which is the reason he wanted to go home and fair play to him.

It feels like you're trying to blame Pearson for Abe leaving the club, when it just doesn't appear to be the case. In my opinion, he would have left either way.

I'm not saying it made him homesick, I'm just saying that it may have made it more of an issue. Issues that are at the back of your mind can grow when other things in your life aren't going for you. If all is well it becomes less of an issue. your more likely to feel homesick if your a neglected member of the squad in a mid table club in the second tier of English football when you could be a hero in your home country playing week in week out in the J-League and close to your family. Had he been used more often, or we been more involved in the promotion chase this season could have both helped to alleviate his homesickness. Sadly neither were the case and the issue grew.

I'm not blaming Pearson at all, however, I think the issue could have been avoided had he played more regularly under both Sven and Pearson.

 

[lazzer]

A well received poll ,some constuctive points , and all round feeling of common sense. Theres hope for TB yet.

 

[Macky]

Not a lot posted by those that want PEARSON to go? I know it's an anonymous poll but if you've voted for him to go, what's your reasoning?

 

[FryattFox]

A well received poll ,some constuctive points , and all round feeling of common sense. Theres hope for TB yet.

There's.



:icon_lol:

 

[lazzer]

Sorry there's fryatt fox he's a bell

 

[Blue Maniac]

There's.



:icon_lol:

They're's.

Bloody pendantry. So destuctive.

 

[Profondo Rosso]

Sorry there's fryatt fox he's a bell

belle

 

[RHYDAL]

Not a lot posted by those that want PEARSON to go? I know it's an anonymous poll but if you've voted for him to go, what's your reasoning?

For what it's worth, I voted go.

Pearson has IMO come back for one reason only.....money.
Anyone who thinks his return is based on unfinished business, or you being a bigger club than Hull is deluded.
He's had a bag full of gold shoved in his hand, and I do not believe that he has the motivation, or ability, to construct and motivate a top Championship side in the way McDermott and Adkins have, and Colin no doubt will next season. He's just not as savvy a manager.

There seems to be unrest in the team, and his signings have been uninspired. The one you lot seem to have been most impressed with (Drinkwater) is a nice honest lad, but at best a journeyman. I think he should go now and you get a manager in who'll have the energy, intelligence and desire to build something over a two year period. Adkins and McDermott have been in situ for a couple of years a piece and that's the key. I've not been expecting anything from Malky this season, and would be happy to miss out on the playoffs this year, have a good break in the summer to strengthen and come out fighting again next term.

The key of course is who do you bring in to replace him? There's no one in this division who is either available, or suitable so it's got to be either someone who is young and untested, and no-one springs readily to mind, out of work such as Billy Davies (meh) or an inspired piece of outside the box recruitment. For my millions, if I were your owners I'd be taking a look at Roberto Martinez. Likely to be out of work in the summer, proven at this level and not entirely disgraced at Premiership level either, probably looking for a safety net and likely to be receptive to a well presented package.

So Ian Dowie it is.