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Profondo Rosso

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All set to win FC Twente's first ever Eridivisie title.

Anyone else feel a bit for him? :102: He's clearly an excellent manager. Worked wonders at Boro and now at FC Twente.

England's horrendous goalkeeping situation has cost him his entire reputation imo.
 
Yeah good for him.

It wasn't like they gave the job to any old idiot, but he didn't handle the pressure well and didn't get us (England) into Euro 2008. Unforgivable!
 
He's really rated by a lot of people in Holland for getting the best out of players who failed at other clubs. You'd have thought that would have made him ideal for England...
 
This can't be a serious thread surely? He's had a good time in a poor dutch league and that's it. He was woeful with England and Middlesbro' fans hated him towards the end.
 
I agree he is a good manager and he shouldn't be judged on his time at England, good achievement.
 
This can't be a serious thread surely? He's had a good time in a poor dutch league and that's it. He was woeful with England and Middlesbro' fans hated him towards the end.

Yes but FC Twente to win the Dutch League is something else. They have never won the league and are from Enschede, population in the region of 160k. They have no major backers like Ajax or PSV, or either the history and fan support of Feyenoord.

As for Middlesbrough, they can't complain...UEFA Cup Final is about as good as it's ever going to get there.

Just appears to be one of these blokes who can not take the pressure for a big role.
 
Agreed. Winning the title with FC Twente would be the equivalent of Roy Hodgson winning the title this season with Fulham or something.
 
I agree he is a good manager and he shouldn't be judged on his time at England, good achievement.

So you only think people should be judged on their successes?

Let's get him back in as England manager, he's got a terrific record in football.
 
Tbf Bill Shankly's record as manager was absolutely abysmal before he joined Liverpool - relegated Huddersfield, took Carlisle from promotion chasers to relegation battlers and stood still at Grimsby. Yet people only remember the one successful job he ever did.
 
Tbf Bill Shankly's record as manager was absolutely abysmal before he joined Liverpool - relegated Huddersfield, took Carlisle from promotion chasers to relegation battlers and stood still at Grimsby. Yet people only remember the one successful job he ever did.

How did he get the Liverpool job if his record was so bad? :102:
 
He hasnt won anything yet, he team is on the way to win the title but he is getting pushed to the wire by Ajax who are behind by 4 points and PSV by 5 points, i don't expect him to win the title.
 
Because Liverpool were the equivalent of Derby back then.

Indeed. Apart from the ground of course! This from Wikipedia.........

Shankly became the manager of Liverpool in December 1959.

In 1959, Liverpool was a club in the bottom half of the old Second Division, with a crumbling stadium, poor training facilities, a large and poor quality playing staff and had been knocked out of the FA Cup earlier that year to non-league Worcester City. The only quality was in the backroom staff, with Joe Fagan and Reuben Bennett, added to by the recently retired footballer Bob Paisley, whom Shankly admired.

The training ground at Melwood was in a terrible state, overgrown and with only one mains water tap. Shankly turned this into a strength, by getting the players to arrive instead at Anfield, and then bus them over to Melwood - this created team camaraderie. At Melwood Shankly introduced fitness training including diet assessment, and skills training including using an artificial goal painted on a convenient wall, split into eight sections which he would demand the players hit each time. For playing practice, Shankly introduced five-a-side games that so defined his football thinking - pass and move, keep it simple, a creed taken from the daily matches played by the miners of Glenbuck. After training, the team would all bus back to Anfield together to shower, change and eat a communal meal. This way Shankly ensured all his players had warmed down correctly and he would keep his players free from injury. As a result, in the 1965-1966 season Liverpool finished as champions using just 14 players and two of those only played a handful of games.
 
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