Student Power

[RHYDAL]

Muslim standards? What does the Muslim idea of morality have to do with whether or not trespassing and stopping a horse winning a race is considered a crime not worth breaking to help repeal sexual discrimination laws?

Yes, I am well aware that there are some reports which claim that Davison's actions had a negative effect, but there are plenty of sources which claim otherw*s*, but it's success is not really relevant to the discussion, do you honestly think trespassing, bullying or"terrorism" as you put it, is never justified? Even if it brings out a greater good?

My point was standards depend on your point of view. In Muslim countries women's rights probably do come second to trespass. You may think it's wrong but that's their beliefs.

My point of view is if you don't like a law or policy decision, vote against it, lobby your MP or take part in a peaceful protest.

Violence begets violence.

 

[RHYDAL]

one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter

A **** is a **** no matter what flag he flies.

 

[bocadillo]

I don't remember the thread being about any of them, stupid me.

It soon will be though. Students will not be the last group to protest against the actions of this Government.

 

[Macky]

My point was standards depend on your point of view. In Muslim countries women's rights probably do come second to trespass. You may think it's wrong but that's their beliefs.

That doesn't justify it, nor does it mean that you shouldn't fight against it.

My point of view is if you don't like a law or policy decision, vote against it, lobby your MP or take part in a peaceful protest.

Even if it's utterly ineffectual and pointless?

Violence begets violence.

So is violent reaction to a violent policy not understandable?

A **** is a **** no matter what flag he flies.

That's true, but it doesn't necessarily follow that a 'terrorist' or a 'freedom fighter' is automatically a '****'

 

[RHYDAL]

Nor families, nor the jobless, the helpless, the elderly?

Yeah bloody government forcing them into rented accomodation, foisting plasmas, sky etc on them, rewarding them for sitting on their arses and allowing immigrants to do the jobs they won't do.
And the poor old dears, being made to suffer warm temperatures in their own homes with them draconian fuel allowances, whilst not being allowed the basic human right of paying for their own bus and train travel.
Bastards.

 

[Macky]

Yeah bloody government forcing them into rented accomodation, foisting plasmas, sky etc on them, rewarding them for sitting on their arses and whilst immigrants do the jobs they won't do.
And the poor, being made to suffer warm temperatures in their own homes with them draconian fuel allowances, whilst not being allowed the basic human right of paying for their own bus and train travel.
Bastards.

:icon_lol: HAHAHA! Daily Mail much?

 

[fitz]

It soon will be though. Students will not be the last group to protest against the actions of this Government.

And will dole scroungers etc get the same level of sympathy for similar actions? I doubt it

 

[homer]

Not many fit student pieces about in any of the footage I've seen

In the old days you could always rely on some hot pretend leftie stoodent flange up for a bit of free love on any such march

What a let down - good job you didn't go, Ted

 

[bocadillo]

My point of view is if you don't like a law or policy decision, vote against it, ...

So if you don't want tuition fees to be increased, you vote for a party who pledges not to raise them? Is that what you're suggesting?

Didn't a lot of people already do that?

 

[Macky]

So if you don't want tuition fees to be increased, you vote for a party who pledges not to raise them? Is that what you're suggesting?

Didn't a lot of people already do that?

ZiNG!!

 

[bocadillo]

And will dole scroungers etc get the same level of sympathy for similar actions? I doubt it

Not everybody who doesn't work is a dole scrounger. Do you think those people will be unaffected?

 

[Blue Maniac]

I wonder how many people consider these people terrorists yet also believe Nelson Mandela is not.

 

[fitz]

Not everybody who doesn't work is a dole scrounger. Do you think those people will be unaffected?

Etc was used to include those that aren't scroungers - Elderly, disabled, short term unemployed and so on will be affected. I doubt that any other affected group would gain as much sympathy as students, especially the unemployed.

 

[Blue Maniac]

:icon_lol: HAHAHA! Daily Mail much?

How do you work that one out, Macko?

 

[RHYDAL]

That doesn't justify it, nor does it mean that you shouldn't fight against it.

It doesn't, no. Nor does it justify violence.

Even if it's utterly ineffectual and pointless?

It's ineffectual when the majority are in favour of it. That's how democracies work.

So is violent reaction to a violent policy not understandable?

Violent policy? How? If a student refuses to pay the charges will they be forced to at gunpoint?

That's true, but it doesn't necessarily follow that a 'terrorist' or a 'freedom fighter' is automatically a '****'

Neither does it follow that a freedom fighter is a figure of respect either. Off the top of my head the name of Winnie Mandela springs to mind.

 

[RHYDAL]

:icon_lol: HAHAHA! Daily Mail much?

No, my sister the sponging bitch.

 

[RHYDAL]

So if you don't want tuition fees to be increased, you vote for a party who pledges not to raise them? Is that what you're suggesting?

Didn't a lot of people already do that?

And did the party they voted for get a majority?

 

[bocadillo]

And did the party they voted for get a majority?

Of course not. But their relatively small number of seats put them in an inordinately powerful position; a position which they have squandered. In their scramble for power, they have given up on their principles.

 

[Dour]

Beware angry men of Kent.

 

[bocadillo]

Beware angry men of Kent.

I don't personally feel angry; I'm not in any of the targetted groups. I'm merely commenting on what I see.