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Brown Nose said:
If we feel the need for another central defender, why not just sign Cahill for a year?

He'd give us insurance against the things people seem to be bothered about without us having to waste millions on someone overpriced and, ultimately, probably unnecessary.

The three names being linked to us will be hugely more expensive than they merit being.

I want us to be spending our money on the other end of the pitch.
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FAR too damned sensible. In essence, some are simply wanting insurance/cover whilst we bring Soyuncu and Benkovic up to speed. If we can do that for a sensible sum then I could live with that, but spending £40M plus on another cb seems a little daft to me. The sale of Maguire might set us back a little this season but the club's in it for the long haul. We bought those 2 guys specifically because we were planing for life after Maguire and Morgan, and Evans was supposed to be stop gap!
 
BlueNotes said:
FAR too damned sensible. In essence, some are simply wanting insurance/cover whilst we bring Soyuncu and Benkovic up to speed. If we can do that for a sensible sum then I could live with that, but spending £40M plus on another cb seems a little daft to me. The sale of Maguire might set us back a little this season but the club's in it for the long haul. We bought those 2 guys specifically because we were planing for life after Maguire and Morgan, and Evans was supposed to be stop gap!
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Is it sensible to bring in Cahill who will be on silly money, for a year or two simply as a back up option? Wouldn't it be more sensible to get the best we can in to do a good job from the very off and provide us with future successes? Dunk, Tarkowski and Ake are all very good players despite what one or two would have you believe and could all do a very good job both now and in the future.

For the record, I wouldn't necessarily be averse to bringing in Cahill on a short term deal IF Rodgers has total and utter faith that both Soyuncu AND Benkovic will come good but I don't think it's the best option if we want to break into the top 6 this year. If we do go into the market for a replacement, then that will be the answer to how much faith Rodgers does have in the potential of our existing CBs.
 
popillius said:
I don't think it's the best option if we want to break into the top 6 this year.
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Maybe the club haven't got that as the no. 1 priority... as I said, maybe the club is thinking long term.

Btw, I only have an opinion on Ake - and I liked what I saw. I thought Man City were interested and that wouldn't surprise me at all. Dunk and Tarkowski, I simply really don't recall.
 
BlueNotes said:
Maybe the club haven't got that as the no. 1 priority... as I said, maybe the club is thinking long term.
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Thinking long term by bringing in Gary Cahill? That's not hugely long term. If the club aren't prioritising finishing as high as they possibly can in the league why the bollock are we even bothering? Being able to plan for the future and have success in the moment aren't and never should be mutually exclusive.
 
popillius said:
Thinking long term by bringing in Gary Cahill? That's not hugely long term.
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Yes, that's the point, he'd simply be stop-gap. Like Evans. I'm not suggesting Cahill specifically btw. I was agreeing with Brown Nose's general point. If we can get Dunk or Tarkowski for around the £20M mark then that'd work for me too... but I don't see that being a realistic proposal given where we are.
 
BlueNotes said:
Yes, that's the point, he'd simply be stop-gap. Like Evans. I'm not suggesting Cahill specifically btw. I was agreeing with Brown Nose's general point. If we can get Dunk or Tarkowski for around the £20M mark then that'd work for me too... but I don't see that being a realistic proposal given where we are.
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And then when the stop gap moves on and Morgan follows shortly after with Evans ageing as well , do we replace those with stop gaps? There comes a point where building for the future requires you to do away with stop gaps.
 
Skitzo said:
we need someone that plays on the left more, Perez will play on the right.
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I think Ryan Fraser spent a lot of time on the left last season.

Would be an incredible move but I think Bournemouth would probably ask for £50m plus...
 
homer said:
Cahill FFS ?

We’ve just trousered eighty big ones. This is not the time to ‘make do’ with has beens
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With due respect, I think there's a context I think you're not fully appreciating. 'Make do' doesn't mean 'has been'. You're simply getting someone capable, but perhaps towards the end of their career, simply as cover. I personally wouldn't suggest Cahill but I see the thinking behind the suggestion. There's merit to it I feel.

I see we have a potential problem if Evans gets injured. Then we have Wes as our experienced cb, and that doesn't make for an easy feeling in me. I'd like to see us having another option in that situation. However, I feel comfortable (for now) with Soyuncu being our 'one for the future'. That said, I might well revise that belief come Christmas!
 
Graz said:
I think Ryan Fraser spent a lot of time on the left last season.

Would be an incredible move but I think Bournemouth would probably ask for £50m plus...
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I suggested a Fraser/Gray swap deal months ago. It's perfect for both sides.

Fraser has been waiting on Arsenal all summer but they always had him as a back up option. Now they've made it clear that he won't be a target, we're the ideal move for him. He's in the final year of his contract and has made it clear that he won't be signing a new one.

Gray has been subject to offers from Bournemouth for the last two summers which we inexplicably rejected. He needs a fresh start somewhere and that looks an ideal place.

Fraser's goals / assists stats are exactly what we're missing.
 
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