The missing face?

[Steven]

Rumour is that this announcement will come today.

 

[Foxes_Trust]

That would depend on how much work it is intended that the chairman does, I suppose.

What is clear is that this is in response to the perceived cock-up a short time ago. Time will tell whether we will see it as an improvement or not.

Not true, been worked on for months

TD & JB roles still in place

 

[bocadillo]

Not true, been worked on for months

TD & JB roles still in place

I'm not sure which part of what I wrote that you are saying is untrue. The role of a CEO must surely depend on how much and what kind of work the chairman does. The suggestion was being made that TD's role would be redundant and my answer was "It depends".

Personally I feel that far too much was being expected of TD and that he had become "all things to all men". You say that both TD and JB are still going to be there - I'm pleased about that because it as last seems as though there are enough people to do the job. It must also be true that 'time will tell' whether the new set-up is going to show a real improvement.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Not true, been worked on for months

TD & JB roles still in place

If that is the case, how does the trust believe the club can take on the cost of 2 expensive executives in JB and the new chairman and also maintain the services of TD when the club has undertaken massive cost cutting measures on the playing staff. Too many cooks spring to mind, and I fear that they will be unable to justify their positions. Surely if the new chairman is to be salaried, as has been reported, then he must at least replace the role of either / and / or TD and JB.

 

[Foxes_Trust]

I'm not sure which part of what I wrote that you are saying is untrue. The role of a CEO must surely depend on how much and what kind of work the chairman does. The suggestion was being made that TD's role would be redundant and my answer was "It depends".

Personally I feel that far too much was being expected of TD and that he had become "all things to all men". You say that both TD and JB are still going to be there - I'm pleased about that because it as last seems as though there are enough people to do the job. It must also be true that 'time will tell' whether the new set-up is going to show a real improvement.

We meant the 2nd part ... due to recent events.... it isn't.

Agree with your observations about too much being asked of one person, far too much ground to cover.

We have now had individual meetings with all 3 of them in recent weeks & our overall impression was positive in all cases

 

[Foxes_Trust]

If that is the case, how does the trust believe the club can take on the cost of 2 expensive executives in JB and the new chairman and also maintain the services of TD when the club has undertaken massive cost cutting measures on the playing staff. Too many cooks spring to mind, and I fear that they will be unable to justify their positions. Surely if the new chairman is to be salaried, as has been reported, then he must at least replace the role of either / and / or TD and JB.

The cost of the 2 executives is insignificant in comparison to the players wage bill even now.

Boc is right, no company with the turnover the size of LCFC would try to run itself with one person. There are strengths & weaknessess within LCFC, which we discussed with the club earlier today.

Addressing the weaknesses & turning those areas even into average performers would generate a mixture of additional revenue & cost savings to easily cover the additional salaries

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

The cost of the 2 executives is insignificant in comparison to the players wage bill even now.

Boc is right, no company with the turnover the size of LCFC would try to run itself with one person. There are strengths & weaknessess within LCFC, which we discussed with the club earlier today.

Addressing the weaknesses & turning those areas even into average performers would generate a mixture of additional revenue & cost savings to easily cover the additional salaries

Are you saying that the club has taken a long hard look at it's off field performance and acknowledged that it has been poor, if so then credit is due and lets hope that the new team can inject some much need professionalism and revenue into the club.

 

[Boy Genius]

The cost of the 2 executives is insignificant in comparison to the players wage bill even now.

Boc is right, no company with the turnover the size of LCFC would try to run itself with one person. There are strengths & weaknessess within LCFC, which we discussed with the club earlier today.

Addressing the weaknesses & turning those areas even into average performers would generate a mixture of additional revenue & cost savings to easily cover the additional salaries

It should not take an infinate number of monkeys to figure that one out.....

 

[bocadillo]

We meant the 2nd part ... due to recent events.... it isn't.

Agree with your observations about too much being asked of one person, far too much ground to cover.

We have now had individual meetings with all 3 of them in recent weeks & our overall impression was positive in all cases

Thanks for clarifying. I do accept that discussions had been going on over a longer period, but the aforementioned cock-up did seem to galvanise a few minds. I think it could well have dragged on forever had this not happened, possibly even failed to reach fruition. I stand by my statement.

I'm pleased that you have got a favourable impression. I prefer to wait and see how things turn out - the only true test.

 

[Foxes_Trust]

Thanks for clarifying. I do accept that discussions had been going on over a longer period, but the aforementioned cock-up did seem to galvanise a few minds. I think it could well have dragged on forever had this not happened, possibly even failed to reach fruition. I stand by my statement.

I'm pleased that you have got a favourable impression. I prefer to wait and see how things turn out - the only true test.

Agreed talking is one thing, results are what people are judged by.

 

[BOB HAZELL]

Surely the end for TD, a working chairman must mean that Timbo's role becomes redundant ???

The writing has been on the wall for some time now for TNBDD........

 

[BOB HAZELL]

The cost of the 2 executives is insignificant in comparison to the players wage bill even now.

Interesting point, FT...... think I need convincing though...

So, how much do you think the cost of TNBDD and JB is? As Boc previously pointed out, the new guy is now also taking a salary....£???k.p.a.....

Are we not still in the process of reducing said wage bill - regardless of whether its for playing or non-playing staff?

 

[bocadillo]

Interesting discussion opening up here - how I wish I didn't have to be on the train in just over half an hour.

In the time that I have I would just like to make one point. I am well aware that the FT have had discussions with what they would call the three people involved and that they have been assured that there is a continuing role for all three of them. I would just ask the FT whether, in the light of their own experience, they feel that they can rely on what they are told.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

The writing has been on the wall for some time now for TNBDD........

I cannot see how a role that was being carried out by one well paid executive (TNBDD), will now be carried out by 3 well paid executives (AT,TNBDD and JB), I understand that there has been a restructure and that Tim was no doubt stretched carry out the role on his own, however I believe that there will be a 'casualty' in this new set up.

The justification of having 3 highly paid executives would be extremely difficult when the club is under going a big cost cutting exercise. Also would they be able to deliver the additional revenue streams to justify their existance. Surely this restructure is an admission that TNBDD has failed in his position and that this is a serious undermining of his position and that the commercial side of the club has been an unmitigated disaster. And for that IMO Tim Davies will carry the can and will not be at the club come the start of next season.

 

[Melton Fox]

I wonder if AT will get the remaining games credited off of his Season Ticket?

 

[BOB HAZELL]

IMO Tim Davies will carry the can and will not be at the club come the start of next season.

Expect, within the forthcoming "commercial restructuring", a possible change in title for TNBDD - if he decides he can continue in any capacity at the club.....(not claiming this is factual BTW!!!)

Answers on a postcard please...

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Expect, within the forthcoming "commercial restructuring", a possible change in title for TNBDD - if he decides he can continue in any capacity at the club.....(not claiming this is factual BTW!!!)

Answers on a postcard please...

That would be my take on the situation, these changes are a clear undermining of Tim's position and I would be very surprised if any executive would accept a dilution of their responsibilities and power. Pride is a very strong emotion,and I really do not believe Tim will be able to continue under these circumstances.

Also why was he not part of the Press conference yesterday, already a strong indication that he is being side stepped.

 

[BOB HAZELL]

these changes are a clear undermining of Tim's position.

PFKA, both you and I know that he's been continually "undermined" for the last few months (and we're pretty sure why) - I'm merely waiting to hear what the FT are going to say with regard to their "discussions" that they've referred to with the said parties.........

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

PFKA, both you and I know that he's been continually "undermined" for the last few months (and we're pretty sure why) - I'm merely waiting to hear what the FT are going to say with regard to their "discussions" that they've referred to with the said parties.........

Also it will be interesting to see when TD does inevitably leave the club, where that leaves likes of The Birch and Andrew Neville, bearing in mind the speculation regarding redundancies, I would imagine that with the changes taking place that a more ruthless attitude will be taken to reduce the clubs cost base and without some of the old guard there to protect these people that there could still be a major overhaul to the clubs administrative side.

 

[Melton Fox]

If the new guy is the fan he claims to be, he won't want to see Birch leave the club. I think Birch will be staying for the forseeable