They're talking about us

[pork pie fox]

Change at the right time, can be good.

During that brilliant season, we played Stoke at home, they had a corner, we pushed 3, yes 3, up to the half way line.

Stoke players looked over to the bench, asking wtf do we do??

Great to watch

When did we put just one player up top for a corner??

I said this on Saturday, against QPR. Late in the game they had a free kick near our box and we had every player back defending, despite being down at the time. They had 3 players back there, so it’s not like all ours were marking. How are we supposed to take it to them in that scenario.

 

[Brown Nose]

I said this on Saturday, against QPR. Late in the game they had a free kick near our box and we had every player back defending, despite being down at the time. They had 3 players back there, so it’s not like all ours were marking. How are we supposed to take it to them in that scenario.

Perfect example of over coaching. Every set piece requires every player to do exactly what was rehearsed. No room for adaptability.

Boring as can be.

 

[Rock Fox]

Change at the right time, can be good.

During that brilliant season, we played Stoke at home, they had a corner, we pushed 3, yes 3, up to the half way line.

Stoke players looked over to the bench, asking wtf do we do??

Great to watch

When did we put just one player up top for a corner??

My guess would be 2015/16

 

[glyn]

Leicester City doomed to fail under Premier League’s warped logic

Leicester City doomed to fail under Premier League’s warped logic

Club who gave top flight one of its greatest stories in 2015-16 could be down before they’re up if handed a points deduction for the ‘crime’ of having ambition

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[glyn]

Extract:

“The irony is that this is happening to Leicester, the club responsible for arguably the greatest season in Premier League history. The myth has always been that Leicester did not spend money to win the title in 2015-16. No, they did not spend Manchester City or Manchester United money. They did not spend as Todd Boehly has done at Chelsea. Yet for a club of their size, Leicester spent plenty.

But look what it gave us. This is a fabulous campaign with three clubs vying for the title, but it still isn’t Leicester. “Like winning the Grand National, on a cat,” as the comedian Mark Steel put it. Bayer Leverkusen are leading the Bundesliga this season from Bayern Munich and this is considered a feat, but Leverkusen have played 117 matches in the Champions League, including a run to the final in 2001-02. Leicester had not played a game in that competition, or the European Cup, before winning the Premier League. Their European record, in all competitions, amounted to eight matches.

And this is the club that the Premier League is now pursuing to the bitter end. A club that isn’t impoverished, that has been held up as the epitome of all a smaller club can be. This is who it seeks to ruin, as if relegation isn’t punishment enough. That Leicester may re-enter the elite with fewer than zero points is the greatest travesty. As the bottom of the table shows, it is hard enough to make the step up from the Championship. To start with a points deduction would be potentially ruinous.

The old Premier League was a more sensible place. Those parachute payments, for instance, are as much about coming up as going down. They represent a form of guarantee for any promoted club. Spend £40 million improving the squad and we’ll give you that back if you drop. And if you stay up, you’ll be making so much money that you can afford it anyway.

It was, in part, an incentive to keep the league competitive. Yet Leicester could arrive on the back of a fire sale and a points deduction. And they’re not skint, not in financial jeopardy. This is an artificial construct, another number alighted upon with a click of the fingers.

There is a possibility that one of Burnley or Sheffield United — two of the poorest teams ever to play in the Premier League — may survive this season, if harsh judgments are made against Everton and Nottingham Forest. Imagine that. A team loses 8-0, 6-0 and 5-0 on four occasions and stays up.”

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[Blue Maniac]

I don’t know. I feel like the rules have been there a long time and should discourage unsustainable practices and poor decision-making such as (entirely for example and definitely not based on anything real) spending money you haven’t earned yet on players who aren’t any good, or retaining a manager whose tactical limitations, out-of-control ego and nepotism are sending you crashing towards a relegation everyone with eyes can see coming from 12 months away, or allowing people who have no business managing large budgets seemingly unlimited access and zero accountability etc etc. Actions have consequences and all that.

 

[Brown Nose]

 

[camberwell fox]

Did you write that BN?

 

[Brown Nose]

Did you write that BN?

I was heartened to read someone express the things I've been saying for years now.

Everyone catches up with me eventually.

 

[alex]

Oh BN, you are a silly billy

 

[Blue Maniac]

I was heartened to read someone express the things I've been saying for years now.

Everyone catches up with me eventually.

It’s exactly spot on.

 

[City Fan]

Great article, sums it up well.

 

[SilverFox]

I don’t know. I feel like the rules have been there a long time and should discourage unsustainable practices and poor decision-making such as (entirely for example and definitely not based on anything real) spending money you haven’t earned yet on players who aren’t any good, or retaining a manager whose tactical limitations, out-of-control ego and nepotism are sending you crashing towards a relegation everyone with eyes can see coming from 12 months away, or allowing people who have no business managing large budgets seemingly unlimited access and zero accountability etc etc. Actions have consequences and all that.

My question is this (and none of us know until figures are published)…

Had we stayed up, would we have breached?

If the answer to that is no, then we should not be punished. That would be the fair outcome, particularly as other clubs very much did breach and potentially gained an advantage.

The alternative is to ask every club in the premier league to budget for relegation.

 

[Brown Nose]

My question is this (and none of us know until figures are published)…

Had we stayed up, would we have breached?

If the answer to that is no, then we should not be punished. That would be the fair outcome, particularly as other clubs very much did breach and potentially gained an advantage.

The alternative is to ask every club in the premier league to budget for relegation.

Because the third year back is the key one, our loss for 22/23 needs to be pretty small to comply - circa £15m. With the sales of Fofana and Maddison in these figures, it could be close.

The information published by the FL after their disagreement with us said that they expected our loss to exceed this.

Relegation doesn't make much, if any, difference to all this. Our accounts are for the period we were in the PL (to 30th June 2023).

The horror will be our accounts next year. This will show our PL budget without the PL income. If we somehow avoid sanctions this year, we'll be walloped next. Quite rightly too.

 

[Lako42]

Shhhhhhhh you can't question anyone involved with KPFC down the citeh.

 

[fitz]

Shhhhhhhh you can't question anyone involved with KPFC down the citeh.

I was there in league one....etc etc

 

[Brown Nose]

As suspected, this essentially confirms that Danny Ward has had opportunities to leave to play but won't because we pay him so much money.

 

[jb5000]

It's not the player who should be criticised in this situation is it

 

[Brown Nose]

It's not the player who should be criticised in this situation is it

Of course not. It's a difficult balance for players to consider.

It highlights the incompetent performance of the clowns making such offers.

 

[FOX Franks]

As suspected, this essentially confirms that Danny Ward has had opportunities to leave to play but won't because we pay him so much money.

“It’s not as easy as going out and playing games. People will realise he’s shit and that will be him done. At least if he’s not played no one will know and a league two club might take a punt”