Tragedy

[highland fox]

"Whys and blames" are very important to allow all parties involved to move on and deal with things. Not knowing, doesn't help deal with grief, hence why Crash Investigators have such an important job to do.

Although the driver of the lorry has been cleared of any criminal charges, it will be very, very important for him to be totally cleared of any responsibilty. Without this verdict, for him I'd expect the next few years to be for more tortuous than they already will be.

OK, so we can't decide who's to blame, but it's human nature to discuss cases, and it's human nature to have an interest in local events, even the tragic ones. Neither discussing this, or not discussing this case will make the blindest bit of difference to the parties involved.

Oh right...I guess we are alldifferent,I couldn't give a **** about the whys and who is to blame myself Some people sem to have opinions about everything

 

[Melton Fox]

Oh right...I guess we are alldifferent,I couldn't give a **** about the whys and who is to blame myself

Of course not, because it's none of your concern.

When a loved one is taken from you, it's perfectly acceptable to ask "Why?". Even in death, responsibility and possibly blame must still be apportioned.

When a group of people die of "unnatural causes", somebody is always responsible.

 

[highland fox]

You have missed my point but it doesn't matter

 

[Melton Fox]

You have missed my point but it doesn't matter

Well don't be so bloody rude then and come down to my level to explain it to me properly!!!!

 

[highland fox]

Its just that everytime there is a tragedy on here someone has to start apportioning blame immediately,people are still warm in their graves and already they are being blamed and the 'it serves them right etc' attitude has been voiced,I just find it all a bit insensitive thats all.Friends/relatives might read this board and its hardly what they want to hear at this moment,we know nothing about the incident and its all wild guesses.

 

[Melton Fox]

Its just that everytime there is a tragedy on here someone has to start apportioning blame immediately,people are still warm in their graves and already they are being blamed and the 'it serves them right etc' attitude has been voiced,I just find it all a bit insensitive thats all.Friends/relatives might read this board and its hardly what they want to hear at this moment,we know nothing about the incident and its all wild guesses.

OK, in which case I didn't miss your point.

 

[Boy Genius]

Oh right...I guess we are alldifferent,I couldn't give a **** about the whys and who is to blame myself Some people sem to have opinions about everything

you are sooooo far from reality there HF. The facts about why the accident tookplace and who is to blame, has to be sorted out very very quick.
There are more victims of the accident than the six who were killed. The lorry driver has to be cleared quick if he is blameless, more for his peace of mind. Until you have been there you will never understand.

 

[Macky]

you are sooooo far from reality there HF. The facts about why the accident tookplace and who is to blame, has to be sorted out very very quick.
There are more victims of the accident than the six who were killed. The lorry driver has to be cleared quick if he is blameless, more for his peace of mind. Until you have been there you will never understand.

I really think you've entirely missed his point.

 

[highland fox]

you are sooooo far from reality there HF. The facts about why the accident tookplace and who is to blame, has to be sorted out very very quick.
There are more victims of the accident than the six who were killed. The lorry driver has to be cleared quick if he is blameless, more for his peace of mind. Until you have been there you will never understand.

No I won't and nor do I need you preaching to me about it.I just know 6 young people lost their lives and its a very very sad thing,the reasons why don't concern me and if they were speeding etc it doesn't make it any less tragic.Some on here are so fecking high and mighty and love nothing more than to be judge,jury and executioner.:icon_roll and please don't ptronise me,i know all about losing loved ones

 

[Melton Fox]

Some on here are so fecking high and mighty and love nothing more than to be judge,jury and executioner

Some would wonder who is it that considers themselves the "high and mighty". Those that are acting as "judge, jury and executioner", or those that are telling them they're not allowed

i know all about losing loved ones

As do we all, H, nobody is unique in that respect.

 

[highland fox]

Some would wonder who is it that considers themselves the "high and mighty". Those that are acting as "judge, jury and executioner", or those that are telling them they're not allowed

As do we all, H, nobody is unique in that respect.

I'm not saying I was it was Bg who said that unless you have been there you have no idea when he quoted my post.Quite why he quoted me and then went on about something unrelated to my point I do not know.
I wasn't telling anyone not to discuss it you can discuss what the **** you like but Iwas just pointing out that some on here are quick to look for blame and the fact that 6 people died is just a side issue.Can't be arsed talking about this anymore,I think I live on a different planet than some of you

 

[Melton Fox]

I'm not saying I was it was Bg who said that unless you have been there you have no idea when he quoted my post.Quite why he quoted me and then went on about something unrelated to my point I do not know

And on that note I shall bow out of this conversation before I get any more confused.

 

[Boy Genius]

I really think you've entirely missed his point.

no I didn't miss it at all. All I was saying is, there is a different view point. It's not just about the people who were killed.

No I won't and nor do I need you preaching to me about it.I just know 6 young people lost their lives and its a very very sad thing,the reasons why don't concern me and if they were speeding etc it doesn't make it any less tragic.Some on here are so fecking high and mighty and love nothing more than to be judge,jury and executioner.:icon_roll and please don't ptronise me,i know all about losing loved ones

How would yopu feel if you were the lorry driver and innocent of all blame?

and HF I am not on about losing loved ones, I am on about the lorry driver. I have been there in a similar position.

 

[Macky]

All I was saying is, there is a different view point. It's not just about the people who were killed.

Which has got **** all to do with what hf was saying.
So like I said, you've entirely missed his point.

 

[Boy Genius]

Which has got **** all to do with what hf was saying.
So like I said, you've entirely missed his point.

you are missing the point here Macky, you really are.

What do you think HF's point is then?

 

[Macky]

you are missing the point here Macky, you really are.

I'm not. I agree entirely with everything you've said, but it has nothing to do with hf's point of view.

What do you think HF's point is then?

Without wanting to be presumptuous, that he himself isn't interested in the whys & wherefores and laying the blame on somebody when an accident occurs.

 

[Boy Genius]

Without wanting to be presumptuous, that he himself isn't interested in the whys & wherefores and laying the blame on somebody when an accident occurs.

I bet the lorry driver does not think that at the moment. He will want to know.

 

[Durham Fox]

5 of my mates died in a car crash similar to this about 10 years ago. Brings it all back

 

[Jeff]

How would yopu feel if you were the lorry driver and innocent of all blame?

The police have already said they're just treating the lorry driver as a witness, so I don't think anyone is pointing fingers at him.

People have been pointing fingers at Lincolnshire police, after leaving them stranded in Skegness after impounding their car. That's why there were so many in the car, and why it was so late, because someone had to drive from Leicester to pick them up.

 

[Boy Genius]

5 of my mates died in a car crash similar to this about 10 years ago. Brings it all back

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