Matt_B
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How many games did Pantsil play under Sven? How many did Fernandes start?
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How many games did Pantsil play under Sven? How many did Fernandes start?
Miles Away
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Sven had a rotation policy, I suspect Pantsil would have played quite a bit this season and maybe Peltier wouldn't have looked so jaded as a result. And how we could have done with Fernandes at times this season.
Matt_B
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That doesn't answer my questions.
Matt_B
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To answer them:
Pantsil started 4 games of a possible 16 under Sven, so, his rotation policy being 1 in 4, would have meant he'd have started a further 8 games, hardly significant.
Gelson started 10 so I'll give you him, though he hardly looked impressive and made it clear he wanted to leave.
tedfoxxx
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The whole situation is getting BORIng now......
fitz
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I heard he has been out of the picture since an a-Zsolt on him by Pearson, he's training with the under 5s.
tedfoxxx
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I heard he upset Pearson by leaving the training ground unlocked all night after he let the latch-go.
indierich06
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I think if Mills played every game of the season to the standard he has shown so far during his spell here, I would still think he was a poor signing. I had a lot of time for him when he first came here and I thought it would just take time for him to settle in, however it's become apparent that no amount of settling in will take away from the fact that he is a very mediocre player. He doesn't even do the basics well and he's too much of a liability with his rash challenges and red cards.
Pantsil didn't really get a sniff under Sven either, a very bizarre signing really. You would have expected a player like him to go straight into the side and play all season. When he did play he looked dreadful... not sure what happened there. People will say 'well he played every game in the ACON' - unfortunately the quality of football in that competition isn't particularly high. The tournament was won by Zambia. There might be a few talented African players, but by and large, that standard of football in that tournament is of very poor quality.
Johnson was a punt and it didn't pay off - he did have the potential to do well, but it didn't work out for whatever reason, even while Sven was here.
Fernandes was one I probably wouldn't have minded keeping - he didn't set the world alight while Sven was here, but he probably would have been a useful sqaud player. But after Sven left he didn't want to stay, so what could Pearson do? He was no great loss in my opinion - not the creative midfielder we were crying out for, not the tough-tackling ball winning midfielder we required either.
Miles Away
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Pantsil was out of form, Peltier was in it. As the season wore on Pantsil would have been brought back to the fold. Anyway, he's gone now so it's a pointless discussion.
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Matt_B
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I'd love to know how you can assume that.
Miles Away
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Peltier was screaming out for a rest for the last few months and the two were signed to compete for the same position. Ergo, when one lost form or got tired he would be replaced with the other.
You don't think Pantsil would have played again under Sven?
indierich06
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The question is, if he was indeed capable and Peltier was so in need of a rest, why did he never even make a single squad under Pearson? This is a man who played Robbie Neilson at RB before and I'm pretty sure Pantsil is a better RB than him (**** it, I'm a better RB than Neilson) so it must have either been something to do with injuries or attitude.
Perhaps after Sven left, he did a Fernandes and decided he didn't want to play for the club any more?
Miles Away
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Perhaps so. Point is we don't know if he was an "awful" player, just that he wasn't used in Pearsons squad.
indierich06
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I didn't say he was an awful player, I said he was an awful signing, which is a completely different thing really. The fact that he will have come in on fairly high wages and barely made any appearances for us before having his contract terminated makes him an awful signing in my opinion. Money down the drain.
Real Sharapova
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I have to concur, having seen him try to ply his trade for us.
Miles Away
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I saw him too, albeit not live. He looked to be struggling, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on his career.
Oh well, on we go.
Oh well, on we go.
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