what a goal..............

[Lako42]

i wouldnt play it through midfield if i knew that gutless forest cnunt was playing there

 

[Stevie Lynex on the wing]

The midfield was pretty non existant Joeys wonder goal aside and to be fair Hughsie played most of the game in the centre as he doesn't feel comfortable on the wing plus his ankle problem has flaired up again.
Andy Welsh looks promising, pity his effort was wasted in the end after he had done all the hard work running through the defence, I think he was going for glory but perhaps should have passed the ball to Hume to blast into the empty net.

 

[webmaster]

Hughsie played most of the game in the centre as he doesn't feel comfortable on the wing plus his ankle problem has flaired up again.

I assume you mean it flared up, although we could do with a bit more flair in the team :icon_bigg

The problem much of the game was that all four midfielders looked like they wanted to play in central midfield, so it was all very narrow and there was never a wide option available when we had possession, so we ended up hoofing it.

 

[Stevie Lynex on the wing]

I assume you mean it flared up, although we could do with a bit more flair in the team :icon_bigg

The problem much of the game was that all four midfielders looked like they wanted to play in central midfield, so it was all very narrow and there was never a wide option available when we had possession, so we ended up hoofing it.

Full marks webbo for spotting my typo error

Yes agree about the four midfielders that was my point about Hughsie not being comfortable on the wing.

 

[webmaster]

Yes agree about the four midfielders that was my point about Hughsie not being comfortable on the wing.

We could do with someone like Steve Lynex on the wing at the moment. And I'm not talking about you

 

[Stevie Lynex on the wing]

We could do with someone like Steve Lynex on the wing at the moment. And I'm not talking about you

:icon_lol:

 

[bocadillo]

I've been watching City since 1970 and I cannot recall an LCFC player scoring from within his own half for us before.

I remember seeing it happen - about 3 years before you started watching - Peter Shilton with a kick from hand in the 5-1 win a Southampton - late 1967, I think.

 

[Steven]

Game v Hull not been on the Championship yet. :thumbs_up :icon_wink

 

[glyn]

It's just been on....absolutely brilliant. In fact all 3 were great and yes Joey played a beatuy of a pass for Hume's goal as well.

Did not like the defending for the Hull goals though :icon_conf

 

[Steven]

It's just been on....absolutely brilliant. In fact all 3 were great and yes Joey played a beatuy of a pass for Hume's goal as well.

Did not like the defending for the Hull goals though :icon_conf

I think the first goal would have beaten a lot of sides. The second however was symptomatic as time and time again we did not compete for the second ball off Parkin. :icon_roll

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

When will people realise Williams is not selected in the team for his battling qualities and bone crunching tackling, what he is there for his calmness on the ball and ability to maintain possesion, he sees and makes passes that most other players in this league wouldnt even think about. The problem is that yesterday we played it too long and direct and that is when Gareth looks a passenger.

The easiest thing is to pick up on a player and slag him off, but have a look at some of the 5 / 10 yard passes he makes that retains possession and opens up space for other players, all the things Kisnorbo couldnt do when he was in midfield, and coincidently why he got slated, he is an intelligent player with good vision, and in a team playing decent passing football would be an excellent asset.

 

[foxtale soup]

the moment it left his boot, I turned to my brother and said ''another fu(king wasted long ball'', then the net bulged. how fantastic is that

I said something similar "not another fukcing long ball what a waste of...fukcing brilliant goal"

 

[Dunc]

When will people realise Williams is not selected in the team for his battling qualities and bone crunching tackling, what he is there for his calmness on the ball and ability to maintain possesion, he sees and makes passes that most other players in this league wouldnt even think about. The problem is that yesterday we played it too long and direct and that is when Gareth looks a passenger.

The easiest thing is to pick up on a player and slag him off, but have a look at some of the 5 / 10 yard passes he makes that retains possession and opens up space for other players, all the things Kisnorbo couldnt do when he was in midfield, and coincidently why he got slated, he is an intelligent player with good vision, and in a team playing decent passing football would be an excellent asset.

Williams was awful, i mean really awful. He didn't keep the ball particularly well when he did get it, when he lost it he ambled about in midfield, not putting any pressure on their players.

We didn't win many 2nd phase balls off parking or elliott and that is down to Joey having to do two mens work in the middle of the park. First half Joey wasn't particularly good but 2nd he was awesome in terms of passing, work rate and was our driving force.

Williams IMO shouldn't be allowed to pull on a City shirt til he takes his finger out his arse and puts some effort in. You say we went direct and missed him out, but I think if you looked at the attempts Williams made to free himself and offer an option to 2 centre halves who can actually pass it pretty well you will be left looking in vain.

He has ability, no doubt, and he passed it ok on occassions but for a centre midfield player he is neither effective enough in attack, defense or in terms of work rate to justify his position in the team.

Hughes at least puts the graft in, and although he's not very strong, he puts players under pressure while a lazy git next to him jogs about watching the game pass him by.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Williams was awful, i mean really awful. He didn't keep the ball particularly well when he did get it, when he lost it he ambled about in midfield, not putting any pressure on their players.

We didn't win many 2nd phase balls off parking or elliott and that is down to Joey having to do two mens work in the middle of the park. First half Joey wasn't particularly good but 2nd he was awesome in terms of passing, work rate and was our driving force.

Williams IMO shouldn't be allowed to pull on a City shirt til he takes his finger out his arse and puts some effort in. You say we went direct and missed him out, but I think if you looked at the attempts Williams made to free himself and offer an option to 2 centre halves who can actually pass it pretty well you will be left looking in vain.

He has ability, no doubt, and he passed it ok on occassions but for a centre midfield player he is neither effective enough in attack, defense or in terms of work rate to justify his position in the team.

Hughes at least puts the graft in, and although he's not very strong, he puts players under pressure while a lazy git next to him jogs about watching the game pass him by.

Dunc, I wouldnt disagree with you on the above comments, I thought Williams was terrible yesterday, but I dont understand when he is criticised for not running around like an idiot and not throwing challenges in, we know he is not that sort of player, what pissed me off with him yesterday was that he never stamped his authority on the game. I would never criticise him for not getting stuck in, that his not his game, it is obvious that he doesnt fit in with how we play so IMO the blame lies with the manager for selecting him, should have had Hughes in the middle and Welsh out wide.

The truth is he will never fit in, because we can ill afford a luxury player, and that is what Williams is, although I still stand by the comment that he is a talented footballer who played in a team that plays decent passing football and use him as the crux of the midfield he would be a good player. I would love to see him alongside Weso.

 

[Chrysalis]

PFKAKTF FOX I agree but its hard work getting others to. Every player has his weaknesses and williams is winning the ball back but has a great strength in creating chances in a "passing" game.

 

[Dunc]

PFKAKTF FOX I agree but its hard work getting others to. Every player has his weaknesses and williams is winning the ball back but has a great strength in creating chances in a "passing" game.

But the point is that he never does it does he! If he produced one defence splitting pass every now and again then you'd have some degree of sympathy but ambling round the centre circle neither helping defence or attack he's not doing anything.

He has talent, he is a good passer but just as its not his nature to work and pressure defenders its apparent its not in his nature to demand the ball and use his skills to take a game.

Anyone can look good at 2-0 or 3-0 but unlike a Joey, Weso and even Hughes isn't shy in getting involved Williams doesn't either have the confidence or the ability to do it when its needed most.

 

[merchant_banker]

I agree with some of the points made earlier regarding the midfield. Without at least one genuine winger we were far too narrow, which also allowed all of the Hull defence to tighten up on Hume and Fryatt. There was also a lack of movement with none of our players looking as if they wanted the ball. I think this is part of the reason that Williams looked so poor, when he did get the ball there was no one open to receive it and he either held the ball for too long or tried a pass that wasn't on and gave the ball away.

Of course, the other reason that he appeared poor is that he is fairly awful. I thought that when Welsh came on there was more space and we played better.

 

[Bilborough Fox]

a very contrasting game. i was bored out of my skull and VERY dissapointed with the leicester fans efforts in the first half. but as you say the second 45 mins were entertaining. And yes what a foooooooooooooooking goal, never seen anything like it in real life. brilliant. P.S. Gareth Williams is a useless wanker who should **** off back to forest

And so say all of us and have been saying most of the season. Amen.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

But the point is that he never does it does he! If he produced one defence splitting pass every now and again then you'd have some degree of sympathy but ambling round the centre circle neither helping defence or attack he's not doing anything.

He has talent, he is a good passer but just as its not his nature to work and pressure defenders its apparent its not in his nature to demand the ball and use his skills to take a game.

Anyone can look good at 2-0 or 3-0 but unlike a Joey, Weso and even Hughes isn't shy in getting involved Williams doesn't either have the confidence or the ability to do it when its needed most.

I agree with you there Dunc, the problem is Williams does not fit into our style of play, he is a continental style midfielder, keeps possession well is fairly neat and tidy but isnt the blood and thunder type of midfielder that we need. I dont blame Williams for that, that is his style and the way he plays, the cold hard facts are that Adams should never have signed him and Levein should have moved him on in the summer.

He is an enigma, a very talented footballer, a player who is gifted but doesnt have the overall game to be the complete central midfielder, and yet as it appears because of his obvious talent, managers believe that they could be the one to turn Williams' potential into consistent performances. It is clear that he is a luxury player and one that we can ill afford to carry.

My gripe is the abuse he gets from people, who even now still expect him to launch into tackles and chase and harass, he is not that type of player and never will be.

 

[Dunc]

I agree with you there Dunc, the problem is Williams does not fit into our style of play, he is a continental style midfielder, keeps possession well is fairly neat and tidy but isnt the blood and thunder type of midfielder that we need. I dont blame Williams for that, that is his style and the way he plays, the cold hard facts are that Adams should never have signed him and Levein should have moved him on in the summer.

He is an enigma, a very talented footballer, a player who is gifted but doesnt have the overall game to be the complete central midfielder, and yet as it appears because of his obvious talent, managers believe that they could be the one to turn Williams' potential into consistent performances. It is clear that he is a luxury player and one that we can ill afford to carry.

My gripe is the abuse he gets from people, who even now still expect him to launch into tackles and chase and harass, he is not that type of player and never will be.

But surely the overriding point is that simply he is'nt good enough with the ball to justify being a work shy get, and isn't good enough for any team in the country either to accomodate him and if they can, eg a Top Premier team, why have Williams not a better version?!