Who Will The New Manager Be (Pt.1)

[Willlow]

Either that or we all saw him stuck in the dugout against Stoke staring into a piece of paper looking like a beaten man. We played for a 0-0 and got one. Just incase you were wondering the teams around us went for it, won and stayed up!! He took us down to DIV 3. He was out of his depth and had to go!!

So this was people's argument two months before the end of the season? No, it was that the club was too big for him and he needed to go.

Simon Grayson has done wonders with Blackpool but its a very different job from managing an 'underdog' to expecting to win League 1!

Even though i hate the bloke you would have to give Paul Ince the job over Grayson. At least he had dealt with the expectation of automatic promotion.

 

[homer]

Simon Grayson has done wonders with Blackpool but its a very different job from managing an 'underdog' to expecting to win League 1!

Even though i hate the bloke you would have to give Paul Ince the job over Grayson. At least he had dealt with the expectation of automatic promotion.

Strange logic there

Grayson has got a side promoted from League One, and has done well to keep them in the Championship on a next to nothing budget - but Ince hasn't even managed at that level yet, inherited a very good play-off side and has had a huge wedge of cash behind him

 

[Biffa Bacon]

Both Ince and Ferguson have had significant amounts of money to spend, Grayson may not be the answer but he is also not a cheque book manager which the other two may turn out to be.

 

[homer]

Both Ince and Ferguson have had significant amounts of money to spend, Grayson may not be the answer but he is also not a cheque book manager which the other two may turn out to be.

Neither have managed at League One level (or above), either

 

[Biffa Bacon]

Neither have managed at League One level (or above), either

It's funny how these things don't matter if the name fits.

 

[Durham Fox]

Gregory in from 20/1 to 9/2 :icon_conf

 

[Willlow]

Please let it be known I'm not saying I want Ince as manager (as my bet on Vcash will back up.). All I was arguing was that Ince is used to managing the team that are the division big boys (even if it is League 2) and will know how to handle the pressure. Grayson is used to being the underdog and defying the odds. I think it stinks of double standards that Grayson is being suggested as manager when he Holloway was criticsed for only being able to manage 'underdogs!'.

 

[Willlow]

Gregory in from 20/ to 9/2 :icon_conf

Its ok he has links to Leicester, although he has never managed in League 1 so thats one negative! :icon_roll

 

[homer]

Its ok he has links to Leicester, although he has never managed in League 1 so thats one negative! :icon_roll

The other one being that he's a complete and utter twat....

 

[Steven]

Several people on here argued that we as a club were too big for IH and he was more suited to managing a team who were seen as 'the underdog'. Surely this also applies to Grayson?

I would agree with this. Moreover unlike Ince he doesn't have the quality of playing experience either. Grayson has much to recommend him but I feel we need a bigger fish at City at the moment.

 

[bocadillo]

The other one being that he's a complete and utter twat....

That might well be true - but he did once give me 4 comp tickets for West Brom.

 

[Willlow]

I would agree with this. Moreover unlike Ince he doesn't have the quality of playing experience either. Grayson has much to recommend him but I feel we need a bigger fish at City at the moment.

Wait a minute...Steven is actually agreeing with me :icon_eek:

 

[Steven]

Gregory in from 20/1 to 9/2 :icon_conf

:icon_conf :icon_conf Don't go there Milan.

 

[Willlow]

Would be delighted with either Davies or Grayson, really fail to see why such negativity surrounds Grayson, he has made significant achievements in each of his seasons at Blackpool, in the first season he saved them from relegation when they looked doomed, second season he took them up and then last season against the odds he kept Blackpool in the championship ( A feat that wasn't achieved here !!!).

As for Davies, I fear he is using us as a stalking horse to recieve better offers, I would be surprised if he was prepared to drop to league 1 and work with Mandy, when IMO he is a dead cert to recieve far more attractive offers over the coming months.

Previous post in another thread

I don't mean it in an arrogant way but their are many examples of managers who are successful at smaller or provincial clubs who then take a percieved step up only to be found out of their depth.

Ollie's experience and limited success has been with "smaller" clubs and with lesser known players which would suggest to me that Ollie's management style is more suited to "underdog" types of clubs where he can galvanise the squad with his enthusiasm to go out and compete against the "big boys".

Where as when he is managing a bigger club with bigger name players, some who have played in the top flight under some well respected managers then perhaps Ollie's limitations are more evident and therefore his effectiveness diminishes.

The better quality players you have then the more it is about professionalism and tactics and perhaps Ollie is a bit more like Kevin Keegan, sadly when you are in a rut the squad will look to the leader for inspiration and that could be the problem. I fear he is a one trick pony.

Stinks of double standards A-Z :icon_wink

Sorry to single you out but you are the first one I came accross (IANGWOC)

 

[Steven]

Wait a minute...Steven is actually agreeing with me :icon_eek:

If you make a sensible post it always likely that I might agree with you. :icon_bigg :icon_wink

 

[Willlow]

If you make a sensible post it always likely that I might agree with you. :icon_bigg :icon_wink

But normally you posts are complete bolloxs which means if you agree with me then my post must be complete bollox! Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe Grayson is the saviour :icon_bigg

 

[WALSHIESTACKLE]

I would agree with this. Moreover unlike Ince he doesn't have the quality of playing experience either. Grayson has much to recommend him but I feel we need a bigger fish at City at the moment.

What bigger fish will be prepared to come though?

 

[homer]

But normally you posts are complete bolloxs which means if you agree with me then my post must be complete bollox! Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe Grayson is the saviour :icon_bigg

 

[homer]

What bigger fish will be prepared to come though?

Guppy ?

 

[Redditch Fox]

Please let it be known I'm not saying I want Ince as manager (as my bet on Vcash will back up.). All I was arguing was that Ince is used to managing the team that are the division big boys (even if it is League 2) and will know how to handle the pressure. Grayson is used to being the underdog and defying the odds. I think it stinks of double standards that Grayson is being suggested as manager when he Holloway was criticsed for only being able to manage 'underdogs!'.

Holloway was criticised not because he was only able to manage underdogs but because in spite of his silly talk, his results were appalling and towards the end of the season he looked and behaved like dead meat.

We need a seriously strong manager at Leicester - I wouldn't know whether Grayson fits that bill but my gut instinct is that he doesn't. Ince does and if induced with enough cash might take on the job. I'm with PK on Davies - it would be a splendid appointment but I think he may well get better offers.