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Leeds figure will have been boosted by their visit to Port Vale. Huge away end there. As you say some other away ends can be extended ala Oldham..

Leics - B'ham B'ham - Southampton So'ton - Pompey. I'd go via London.

Where did you get the info from?

I was one of the younger lads that were passing through the train on the way to the bar...dont know if you saw any of us? Had to stop and laugh at him for a bit :biggrin:

Bernie was sat on the table and a family (Non footy fans) had reserved it and he wouldn't move. Found it V Funny personally.

After about 70-80 mins there was a lot of movement and it looked like there was fighting right at the top - Not sure - looked like something had kicked off :icon_eek:

I thought the kop were singing before the players put a small amount of effort in.....

Talking of 'in the know'...any chance you know what happened in L1 last nite beaumont?

The kop was rocking - Lovely, I number of us did say "I want to be back in the kop now":icon_lol: But this brings me onto the original reason of why we moved away from the kop becasue even though we could see how good it was - we were still struggling to hear what they were singing and had to...

Someone did but they wouldnt let us have it on H&S :icon_roll

I dont really think it varies that much - Obvoiusly it does but not a great deal. Yes obvoiusly the side will vary from behind the goal But when people say I dont want the family stand to be swapped with the "kop" becasue "i like my seat" makes no sence becasue they could just get a seat at...

The view is the same in every seat.

It shouldn't be :icon_roll

Well not all, but a significant number - Thats what we hoped to do - I can't see why we can't have a designated area for vocal fans tbh The mentality of "this is my seat and I'm not moving" really gets me though :confused:

We do - apparently We haven't heard anything from the club since we go the go ahead a month or so ago - They refuse to give us the drum but give it to (Words from the club) "Idiots in L1" They throw people out for simply standing (yes I know its technically breaking the rules!!) but when you...

I dont think its Niave to think people might move, after all, thats what some of us have done!

No, I never said that, but there is a proportion who are there simply for a one-off and then theres those their to create trouble.

Becasue it had a bad reputation i.e "Their all chavs" We wanted a fresh start and an area for people who actually care about the team to go - But the club seem certain on ruining it.

But if you put them all in one area then surely the noise created would be louder?

No-ones saying that "This is how you should support your team" (Or at least I dont think they are!) But when some individuals say things like "N block is quiet/crap, couldn't hear them on saturday" ,which from some people is pure balls becasue people in the "kop" can hear us, then it's anoying...

You always seem to think that we think we are superior to everybody else...i dont, and I can't find anything that would make you think so.

No you haven't told me any ****ing point :icon_conf You seem quite happy to criticise us, of which their is no doubt about & you claim we (I?) do the same, but you have nothing to back yourself up. :icon_roll

:icon_roll Avoiding the point as usual :icon_roll

Exactly & coming from the one who called the people who set Nblock up "loser who dont have a life outside football". :icon_roll

Improved the atmosphere though...

Show me once post where it even suggests that?

True, I've sat in the "kop" for long enough to know it can be good but I still don't think it compares, week-in-week-out, to Nblock. What do you think?

http://www.ultrasuk.co.uk Thats the UK ultra scene. Pretty much explains itself, just simply trying to create an atmosphere with colour by flags, banners etc Having a bit of fun and backing the team on the pitch. Why should you move? Im not saying you should, I was just merely asking why...

Go on, ask any fan from any team that has been to the stadium since N block was set up and they would tell you the sets of supporters on either side of them are louder. I've spoken to enough myslef to know and being in just about the same position as the away fans you can only hear the "kop"...

Maybe i just posted that wrong, and came acrross in the wrong way but I didn't want him to justify why he hasn't moved just asking him why?

My biggest critisism of him was that he could only start 2 chants.

Okay, just to say the Ultras thing is not the best idea name wise but the UK Ultra scene is still growing and quite popular. Nothing to do with violence or hooliganism. Saturday was awfull in Nblock, about 100 max but if you asked the away fans, I'm sure they'd say we were louder than the...

Agreed, made a big improvment!

Was that the best you could do :icon_roll Oh so constructive.

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Unfortunatly not :icon_razz We are looking at protesting against the awfull stewarding with standupsitdown helping out at the derby game.

Not me. It was the other lad who set the idea up with me. Ironically he was sat for long periods and thrown out for persistant standing.

Where about where you sat?

:icon_lol: You always seem to think that you are right, or maybe it's just how some of your post's come accross :icon_razz

Easily argreed on what they sung. Melts is wrong (shocker!!!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLbkye_KKdc WACCOE is correct - We-are-champions, Champions-of-Europe