Has Milan run his course........

[Biff]

Nough said..........

 

[Singth]

As a matter of fact, I had the temerity to post on Jessel's thread, nothing 'mocking' or 'patronising', Jessel then abused me.
I don't know who it is you're referring to that has been throwing fluffy toys about.

Well it's not you Macky so you needn't look to me for a scrap it was your so-called "racist" remarks that I found equally un-offensive. But the mods were out in support of you, despite the fact that it MAY offend somebody (NOT ME!!) whilst what Newts said last week was deemed as being offensive.

 

[spionfox]

I'm not saying people shouldn't be allowed to believe in what they want, just that they shouldn't receive any special status because of their beliefs.

You actually went much further than that by saying you don't consider taking the piss out of a religion to be offensive

You didn't answer my question. Why should a religious belief be treated any differently to any other kind of belief?

It's probably down to scale. I mean that there are millions/billions around the world who have belief in some sort of deity and this belief (as unfounded as it may well be to you) has existed for thousands of years.

In the case of David Ickes beliefs, well, it's just him and the Jones from number 45.

On the face of it, there shouldn't be a difference in how they are treated but with millions/billions of adherents maybe I at least choose to be a bit more respectful because of it.

Probably makes me wrong but I can live with that. That is my belief :icon_wink

 

[Jeff]

Maybe not offensive to you, but do you accept that it could be offensive to those who do have religious beliefs?

It could be, but that's their problem.
Some people will be offended if we take the piss out of their football team, their weight, their taste in music etc. Why should their belief in the supernatural be treated any differently?

I didn't say that.

I didn't say "anything anyone finds offensive is "their problem".", which is what you said I said.

I was talking about people who are offended if someone takes offence when people take the piss out of their beliefs in religion and similar stuff. Religion shouldn't be protected any more than any other superstition.

 

[Biff]

Well it's not you Macky so you needn't look to me for a scrap it was your so-called "racist" remarks that I found equally un-offensive. But the mods were out in support of you, despite the fact that it MAY offend somebody (NOT ME!!) whilst what Newts said last week was deemed as being offensive.

I think Singth is relating to this thread, which i started in good faith, only to be ridiculed by Boc, whos mod status has gone to his head (and he does have a canny resemblance to, you know who).

People should be free to start threads, without the fear of imbeciles posting nothing but bullshit at post 2 of their work.

Im sure Singth will put me right if ive got the wrong thread.

 

[Singth]

I didn't say "anything anyone finds offensive is "their problem".", which is what you said I said.

I was talking about people who are offended if someone takes offence when people take the piss out of their beliefs in religion and similar stuff. Religion shouldn't be protected any more than any other superstition.

So what was it that Newts said that made his a special case?

I'll happily take the piss out of anyone and everything - religion, gay's, fat people, ugly people, dwarves, big noses, ginger hair, crap shoes etc etc, I'm shallow like that but I am just seeking clarity here of what is deemed as offensive?

 

[Lako42]

But the mods were out in support of you, despite the fact that it MAY offend somebody (NOT ME!!) whilst what Newts said last week was deemed as being offensive.

I would love to see an acceptable answer to this.

 

[Singth]

I think Singth is relating to this thread, which i started in good faith, only to be ridiculed by Boc, whos mod status has gone to his head (and he does have a canny resemblance to, you know who).

People should be free to start threads, without the fear of imbeciles posting nothing but bullshit at post 2 of there work.

Im sure Singth will put me right if ive got the wrong thread.

By the way Biff I think that you're wrong on the point you are making with MM. Just in case anyone thinks we hold hands sometimes down that country lane not far from your house.

Cool dog:icon_cool

 

[Biff]

By the way Biff I think that you're wrong on the point you are making with MM. Just in case anyone thinks we hold hands sometimes down that country lane not far from your house.

Cool dog:icon_cool

7pm still good.

 

[Jeff]

So what was it that Newts said that made his a special case?

Nottingham Fox has stated his opinion on this in the thread it was posted in.


But generally, personal abuse is not the same thing as abusing what someone believes in.

 

[Biff]

I Demand That The Mods Contact Newts And Issue An Apology For Not Being Evenhanded

Bring Back Newts, NOW!!!!

 

[Singth]

Nottingham Fox has stated his opinion on this in the thread it was posted in.


But generally, personal abuse is not the same thing as abusing what someone believes in.

But that is you making the decision of what somebody should be offended by Jeff. Just because you or I don't find it offensive doesn't mean others don't. Personally I found the Harold Shipman remark quite funny and I have never even met Boc and it's no slight against him from me either. I have a mate who looks a dead ringer for Peter Sutcliffe and I love that, but like I said, I'm shallow.

 

[Lako42]

But generally, personal abuse is not the same thing as abusing what someone believes in.

It is if it's personal to them. As I said, an acceptable answer.

 

[Jeff]

But that is you making the decision of what somebody should be offended by Jeff.

Very little is deleted from this forum for being offensive, far less than on most similar sites.
Sometimes other mods find things offensive that I don't, it's for each mod to use their own judgement as to what's offensive and what's not.

Just because you or I don't find it offensive doesn't mean others don't.

So what's the point you're trying to make?

That we should delete everything that someone might find offensive?
That we should delete nothing because someone might not be offended by anything?
Or that the mods have an impossible job because whatever they do someone will disagree with it?

 

[Biff]

But that is you making the decision of what somebody should be offended by Jeff. Just because you or I don't find it offensive doesn't mean others don't. Personally I found the Harold Shipman remark quite funny and I have never even met Boc and it's no slight against him from me either. I have a mate who looks a dead ringer for Peter Sutcliffe and I love that, but like I said, I'm shallow.[/QUOTE]

Take a look at my American driving license. People said the same thing......

 

[Macky]

Macky, when it comes to Religious post's, your the most offensive out there. To deny it would make people laugh.

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What on Earth are you talking about? I have never denied that.

I'll try again as you obviously didn't understand my question:

My main point was, which he admitted to, was that he could be as offensive as me, and is in no position to lecture me on my comments.

Did I?

 

[Biff]

What on Earth are you talking about? I have never denied that.

I'll try again as you obviously didn't understand my question:

The fireworks are over go back to your guiness.............

 

[Blue Maniac]

Good job nobody cares we've strayed way off topic...

 

[Biff]

Good job nobody cares we've strayed way off topic...

While we are off topic, and i know its early, but..............


:icon_lol::icon_wink

 

[spionfox]

Nottingham Fox has stated his opinion on this in the thread it was posted in.


But generally, personal abuse is not the same thing as abusing what someone believes in.

Point of order. I didn't see anything from Newton in the post in question that could be classed as 'personal abuse'.