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Crap about trying to make IH walk is not on, as IH could then claim constructive dismissal which would cost MM more.

Except that many of us - and I( expect that includes you - have either been involved or observed these situations before.

There is always this fine line between giving someone a message that they are not wanted and getting away with it and straying over the line into a potential constructive dismissal situation. I have to say as things have somewhat emerged over the last few days including the SSN interview - which presumably MM saw as serving some purpose - the possibility of a constructive dismissal situation has loomed large to me. Mandaric is a maverick and I wouldn't assume that he always takes standard human resources policy led/ legal advice on these matters.
 
I wonder what the chances are of a new manager being appointed by the board rather than MM alone. He would probably attract less individual flack if he shared responsibilities (including the media stuff) plus we're more likely to get a sensible appointment.

Do you have any idea how big the board is? It's only Milan and two other people.
 
It's writ large and clear that Mandaric doesn't want Holloway but isn't keen to give him his pay off. Mandaric is signalling by his behaviour what many businesses do in this sort of situation - i.e. that the institution doesn't want that particular employee.

It's an interesting situation. Here is Holloway who came in talking about the play offs; had 30 games to achieve at least mediocrity; is out thought by almost every other manager in the league; wastes tidy sums of money on more duds; can't raise any sort of profile when we are sinking in key games; takes us into a division which I hoped never to see in my lifetime......and still he won't resign.

Like many on here we've seen this scenario in the commercial world before. Under the circumstances a resignation would show some integrity but Holloway ain't going to walk with a huge pay-off for early termination of his contract...he knows he's on his way out though.

As I observed when the story broke I'm sure MM will stand down as chairman on June 2nd, if not before, and the newly appointed Aldridge will pull the trigger and be responsible for the appointment of the new manager hence the delays and apparent indecision. Mandaric has a strategy and knows what he's doing albeit missing the Dowie opportunity last week.

Mandaric is painfully aware of his shortcomings in the recruitment of managers and will want to distance himself from the new appointment at least in a formal sense to ease the process and relieve himself of ultimate accountability for the new man. With his past history I don't think that's a bad idea.

As much as he's known for knee jerk reactions Mandaric is an experienced businessman and is carrying out a systematic and necessary review of the club. I actually sympathise with his predicament even though his inability to find the right manager is the root cause of his and Leicester City's problems.

I honestley believe that he felt ,like most of us, that Holloway had enough tactical and management experience to avoid the unthinkable prospect of relegation. His usual impatience and corrective decision making was diluted and delayed by Holloway's chummy style and optimism which appealed to him on a personal level and the unthinkable happened.

Give Mandaric some space and credit for attempting to do the right thing for our club but don't be surprised if Aldridges' primary goals next year are not only to acheive promotion but also sound out potential new owners for the club once this is secured.
 
Like many on here we've seen this scenario in the commercial world before. Under the circumstances a resignation would show some integrity but Holloway ain't going to walk with a huge pay-off for early termination of his contract...he knows he's on his way out though.

As I observed when the story broke I'm sure MM will stand down as chairman on June 2nd, if not before, and the newly appointed Aldridge will pull the trigger and be responsible for the appointment of the new manager hence the delays and apparent indecision. Mandaric has a strategy and knows what he's doing albeit missing the Dowie opportunity last week.

Mandaric is painfully aware of his shortcomings in the recruitment of managers and will want to distance himself from the new appointment at least in a formal sense to ease the process and relieve himself of ultimate accountability for the new man. With his past history I don't think that's a bad idea.

As much as he's known for knee jerk reactions Mandaric is an experienced businessman and is carrying out a systematic and necessary review of the club. I actually sympathise with his predicament even though his inability to find the right manager is the root cause of his and Leicester City's problems.

I honestley believe that he felt ,like most of us, that Holloway had enough tactical and management experience to avoid the unthinkable prospect of relegation. His usual impatience and corrective decision making was diluted and delayed by Holloway's chummy style and optimism which appealed to him on a personal level and the unthinkable happened.


Give Mandaric some space and credit for attempting to do the right thing for our club but don't be surprised if Aldridges' primary goals next year are not only to acheive promotion but also sound out potential new owners for the club once this is secured.

I broadly agree with that - and it is probably necessary to achieve promotion in order to sell the club. I also think that he took a chance on retaining Holloway in those last disastrous weeks of the season because he was fed up of shelling out money.
 
and the newly appointed Aldridge will pull the trigger and be responsible for the appointment
I have predicted everything and expected everything you wrote, except this bit.

I fully expect Aldridge to take over, or at least have some major involvement next year. Milan is a "fan's man", he wants the fans to like him, he knows he will be unpopular with the vocal section of our support of he sacks their sect leader.

What better way to deflect blame than to leave the gun cupboard unlocked and let Aldridge know where the right guns and right bullets are. Clever Milan.
 
Ian Holloway has refused to resign as Leicester boss leaving owner Milan Mandaric to decide whether he deserves the sack after the club dropped into League One. (Sun)
 
I have predicted everything and expected everything you wrote, except this bit.

I fully expect Aldridge to take over, or at least have some major involvement next year. Milan is a "fan's man", he wants the fans to like him, he knows he will be unpopular with the vocal section of our support of he sacks their sect leader.

What better way to deflect blame than to leave the gun cupboard unlocked and let Aldridge know where the right guns and right bullets are. Clever Milan.

Aside from the fact that Mandaric has now managed to unite fans of all persuasions by being such a total tool. Whether you wanted Holloway sacked or retained, Mandaric has handled it poorly. Again.

This season, he could well prove himself to be the clubs singlemost unpopular chairman.
 
Ian Holloway has refused to resign as Leicester boss leaving owner Milan Mandaric to decide whether he deserves the sack after the club dropped into League One. (Sun)

Fancy having to wrestle with the dilemna of whether Holloway deserves the sack.

On the one hand he is completely out of his depth and has taken us to the outer fringes of English football - on the otherhand....hold on a minute whilst I think of any reasons why he shouldn't be sacked.
 
Fancy having to wrestle with the dilemna of whether Holloway deserves the sack.

On the one hand he is completely out of his depth and has taken us to the outer fringes of English football - on the otherhand....hold on a minute whilst I think of any reasons why he shouldn't be sacked.

The reason that he shouldn't be sacked is because Milan was convinced three months ago that Holloway is the right man to run the club, just as a year ago he was convinced that Allen was the future of Leicester City. We cannot go on paying out on hardly used three year contracts. Whatever you or I think of a specific manager, it is Milan's call and it is time that he showed some backbone and stood by his choice of manager.
 
For the first bit in bold - you can't force him to resign

For the second bit, sack the ****er then!! Why should he resign when he can get a massive payoff instead? Don't pretend anyone on here would do anything else.

I know megson resigned from forest, and adams resigned from leciester in the past?
 
amusing the previous board were crap lets not deny it they were bad. But for them poor football results were the managers fault they got away with it for 3 years. Whilst in mandarics case its his fault right? even when he spent money unheard of from the previous regime.
 
We cannot go on paying out on hardly used three year contracts. Whatever you or I think of a specific manager, it is Milan's call and it is time that he showed some backbone and stood by his choice of manager.

Fortunately, it's not directly our money.

Howver, with respect, I think your logic is flawed.

Surely, it's crazy to stick by a manager who is no good. Where Mandaric needs to rectify his ways is in selecting a decent manager in the first place.
 
Surely, it's crazy to stick by a manager who is no good.
He is good, and if you can't find 7 alternative Managers who are all unemployed that could do a better job then ollie, line them up for interviews (including times and dates) and offer them a package, then you aint allowed to say otherwise.
 
So we are sure that he is 'no good' then yeah? We are 'sure' about that?
I think the evidence is pretty strong, alex.

However, division 3 appears to be Holloway's level. He keeps finding it, and he usually does well in it. He could well be the man to get us out of the division, but I suspect he'll also get us back again.

I think Holloway is a specialist in this league and is drawn to it.
 
He is good, and if you can't find 7 alternative Managers who are all unemployed that could do a better job then ollie, line them up for interviews (including times and dates) and offer them a package, then you aint allowed to say otherwise.


Talking about processes - the one thing that is supposed to be going on, which I think is right, is the review of how the club has been brought to its knees.

The Holloway issue is one we have done to death and my personal view is that it's just absurd to even consider his retention. That said, there are obviously other major problems at the club - and I think that 'evidence' should be taken from all involved now - and if practical those that have left - to try to identify why we are deep into a culture of failure.
 
I think the evidence is pretty strong, alex.

However, division 3 appears to be Holloway's level. He keeps finding it, and he usually does well in it. He could well be the man to get us out of the division, but I suspect he'll also get us back again.

I think Holloway is a specialist in this league and is drawn to it.

Which particular evidence is that? Evidence of his tenure at the Walkers? Could it not be more indicative of the diseased culture which is at our club which has ruined many a man?
 
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