Ranieri Sacked

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FIF

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I'm assuming you have barely watched us play over the past couple of months? We'll be in a relegation spot this weekend.

I've watched every game apart from the one FA CUP match.

Again I love how you know the future. Were you one of those who told me that we'd be bottom of the league after the last game?

Whether we temporarily go into the bottom 3 or not this weekend is irrelevant to what I said. He was sacked whilst we were above relegation and we haven't been in a relegation spot all season. The sooner you realise it's the worthless players having deteriorated or got lazy the better for your health.
 

City Fan

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Oh dear

You haven't been watching very closely, have you?

You clearly haven't.

I don't recall a period where we look as unthreatening as we are now. We haven't even looked like scoring a goal in the league this year.
 

camberwell fox

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If we get relegated (which we 100% would without a change), we'll be stuck with all these useless duffers on fat contracts with no takers. Can I remind you what happened to Portsmouth?

So you'd support him in the championship, fair enough. But what about league one and then league two? Would you still be happy with him as manager then?

The fact is that over the past 2 or 3 months, we have played the worst football I have seen in the 22 years that I have been supporting this club. I'm very sad to see him go, and he's by far the greatest manager we ever had with what he achieved, yet for me it was still the correct decision.

Whether it was the players fault, or the managers, or both...it matters very little. Only one thing can change and unfortunately that's the manager. As unfair as that is.
We have a difference of opinion and perspective but I believe loyalty and faith in an individual are important, particularly in times of adversity.

It sets people apart - those that can continue to see there is something more important at stake than the 'right now'
 

City Fan

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. The sooner you realise it's the worthless players having deteriorated or got lazy the better for your health.

I do realise that. I blame the players more than the manager for this situation we're in. But I still think it was the correct decision.
 

homer

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You clearly haven't.

I don't recall a period where we look as unthreatening as we are now. We haven't even looked like scoring a goal in the league this year.

Seriously ?

In 22 years ?

Says everything
 

FIF

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Did I say we definitely would? I was talking hypothetically. Look it up in a dictionary.

did you say we'd have definitely - like 100% - been relegated if CR stayed? As shit as we've been this season we aren't in the relegation zone and I've seen us play a lot shitter - you must have had your eyes closed too often over your last 22 years.
 

City Fan

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Come on CF, surely you haven't forgotten Ian Holloway? 2007/08? Zsolt Laczko, Gabor Bori? Ring any bell?

We looked like scoring, in fact I remember the old goal or two.
 

City Fan

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What's that got to do with anything ?

Go back to your 22 years of blinkered blind ignorance

It means that it's rich that you basically accuse me of knowing nothing, when your posts over the years clearly show that you know **** all about football.
 

FIF

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It means that it's rich that you basically accuse me of knowing nothing, when your posts over the years clearly show that you know **** all about football.

Fight, Fight, fight.
 

homer

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It means that it's rich that you basically accuse me of knowing nothing, when your posts over the years clearly show that you know **** all about football.

Megson, Levein, Taylor, Holloway ........

Last three months worse than any of that

Quality
 

Jeff

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...tory-claudio-ranieris-leicester-city-sacking/


24 FEBRUARY 2017 • 12:51PM


Claudio Ranieri's Leicester fairytale may have come to an ignominious end in the drab, soulless surrounds of East Midlands Airport on Thursday, but the origins of his demise can be traced to a scorching hot Californian afternoon last July.

Leicester's trip to Los Angeles to participate in the International Champions Cup had already threatened to turn sour, with players grumbling about the 11-hour flight and Ranieri appearing unusually jaded and irritable throughout the trip.

Yet arguably the most telling sign that all was not well with the club who had been crowned English champions for the first time two months previously came when owner Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha and another senior board member bizarrely decided to monitor a training session from high chairs. It was a scene that resembled a sequence from 'Gladiator' - all that was missing was the thumbs-up - and a telling symbol of a club struggling to adjust to its new lofty status, and one suddenly under a level of scrutiny and expectation unprecedented in its 133-year history.


That struggle - for Ranieri, at least - effectively came to an end with the embarrassing FA Cup defeat to Millwall last week, a result which proved the final straw for Srivaddhanaprabha and prompted him to enact a sacking that has polarised opinion across football. He must feel like the man who shot Bambi's mother.

Ranieri was on his way regardless of the 2-1 Champions League defeat to Sevilla but a meeting with senior players in the team hotel – called by Srivaddhanaprabha – sealed his fate.

Those players were asked if there were any issues in the dressing room, as reported by Telegraph Sport earlier this month, and the answer was an unequivocal ‘yes’. They had lost faith with the 65-year-old months ago and felt relegation was inevitable unless a change was made.

Even as recently as Wednesday, the decision to drop Demarai Gray and play £15million flop Ahmed Musa in Seville bewildered the players. One source said: “It was no surprise because he has been making crazy decisions all season.”

Another source described how the players felt “flat as f---s” and painted a picture of a team feeling they were aboard a sinking ship – just nine months after winning the title.

There have been other incidents, too. Ranieri’s methods and tactics have been confusing and angering players and staff, while it alleged he barely spoke to No. 2 Craig Shakespeare, a popular member of the dressing room.

Ranieri made his players train on the morning of the FA Cup tie at Derby County on Friday night, amid suggestions that the owners were unhappy he was preparing to play a weakened team. He has also frequently changed tactics without warning less than two hours before kick-off.

In the 0-0 draw in Copenhagen in November, he angrily confronted a popular member of the backroom staff over a row about the players wearing the wrong football studs. It sounds innocuous, but it was an early sign that Ranieri was losing his grip on the dressing room and feeling the pressure.

Earlier this year when Leicester’s players held talks to force a return to the tactics of last season, essentially 4-4-2 with the plan to counter-attack, Ranieri waved them away and insisted there should be only one voice at the club.

His press conferences had also been a source of irritation. His custom of shaking the hand of every journalist remained but the words he used to describe their struggles jarred with players, who believed it underlined his diminishing grasp of the situation.

Those players will be under huge scrutiny now. There have been accusations of a revolt led by senior players, including Kasper Schmeichel and Jamie Vardy, and it all appears to be another case of player power, evoking memories of Jose Mourinho’s exit from Chelsea last season.

Schmeichel’s remarkable outburst after the defeat to Manchester United earlier this month, when he described their title defence as “embarrassing” and “terrible” was heartfelt, but he also pointedly referred to “everyone from top to bottom” raising their game.

But the simple fact is that Ranieri did have to go. Leicester were heading for relegation, devoid of leadership and direction, and players will always survive, rightly or wrongly.

In truth, Ranieri cannot be blamed for everything about Leicester’s astonishing decline. Leicester have struggled to address key issues since becoming champions and there have been too many over-promotions in significant roles behind the scenes.

The role of Jon Rudkin, the director of football and close to the Srivaddhanaprabha family, is under the microscope and the question has to be asked whether he has fulfilled his remit properly.

Recruitment over the summer was abysmal, while the policy over new contracts bred resentment in the dressing room with the players not rewarded. The decision to present players with BMW’s also went down badly with long-serving members of staff who felt their roles had been ignored.

While Sir Alex Ferguson always insisted “the bus stops for no-one”, Leicester have been in reverse since the open-bus tour in May.

It was the start of an excruciating campaign which has yielded only five wins in the league. Their success in the Champions League, an admirable achievement, has arguably earned Ranieri a stay of execution. Alarm bells were ringing after the defeat at Watford in November while other performances have triggered deep concern.

Yet the board still felt compelled to issue a statement declaring their “unwavering support” just three weeks ago. It was an ultimatum to the players, effectively informing them to buck up their ideas as Ranieri was going nowhere.

But the dreadful performance in Swansea was the response from the four walls of the dressing room, a defeat which left them hovering above the dreaded dotted line. Srivaddhanaprabha was soon realising that the statement had been a waste of time.

The defeat to Millwall signalled the end, but Leicester could not travel to Seville without a manager so he was given that game as a farewell.

Schmeichel’s heroics and Vardy’s first goal in 2017 could have served as a sorely needed turning point but Ranieri was out, less than 24 hours later.

Gary Lineker has admitted he shed a tear – and it is impossible not to feel sympathy for a man who radiated warmth and was always a pleasure to deal with.

After winning the title he privately told us that next season would be even more difficult dealing “with the sharks”, as he liked to call the press. However, it was the big fish in the dressing room which ultimately did for him.

We will miss Ranieri and all his charming idiosyncrasies but football can be cruel and ruthless, relegation the nightmare scenario. Sadly, he had to go.
 

Polar Bear

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Feels pretty much as shit as I feared it would. Rather sad at the minute. I am 44 years old yet I am thinking of writing to Ranieri to thank him, like a kid's fan letter. He made us feel like kids again, didn't he? Now we're back to the cold, brutal world of the 21st century. Blecch.
 

Micky

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Over the past 22 years there has been some horrific crap to endure. The problem with current performances is that we have been sinking like a brick. If Ranieri had stayed we would have finished bottom. I'd put good money on it.
 

FIF

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I hope the fans sing only his name for the whole match against Liverpool, even when we score our 5th.
 

Mike - True Blue Tinter

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How else do you think it should be done? Tell him he's fired whilst tickling his bollocks?

Yes he has to step down as Manager, although he always claimed he was just the Coach - others dealt with finding and hiring players.

They could have made him a Life President of the Club. They could have made him a Super Birch. They could have asked him to travel the world, part time, as an ambassador to promote the honour and 'family' values of our club, as espoused by the owners to us many times over the last few years, as the right way to run a football club, whilst being financially prudent.

They could have recognised how much good wishes he brought to the club by his gracious and good-natured handling of the media irrespective of what had happened on the pitch in any particular match.

They could have treated the guy with some dignity instead of, possibly, just asking John Rudkin to tell him he was fired in an airport arrivals hall, after a result much better than most had expected!

They were not sacking Mark McGhee, Peter Taylor, Dave Bassett, Martin Allen, Gary Megson or Ian Holloway.

They were sacking The Claudio Ranieri, possibly the greatest manager this club will ever have in terms of achievement, his deportment and social and professional skills. The guy is special. He does not deserve to be treated the same as the list of wasters above.
 

Micky

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I hope the fans sing only his name for the whole match against Liverpool, even when we score our 5th.
I hope his name is chanted whilst also supporting the club and the team. Relegation would only make this whole situation worse.
 

FIF

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Yes he has to step down as Manager, although he always claimed he was just the Coach - others dealt with finding and hiring players.

They could have made him a Life President of the Club. They could have made him a Super Birch. They could have asked him to travel the world, part time, as an ambassador to promote the honour and 'family' values of our club, as espoused by the owners to us many times over the last few years, as the right way to run a football club, whilst being financially prudent.

They could have recognised how much good wishes he brought to the club by his gracious and good-natured handling of the media irrespective of what had happened on the pitch in any particular match.

They could have treated the guy with some dignity instead of, possibly, just asking John Rudkin to tell him he was fired in an airport arrivals hall, after a result much better than most had expected!

They were not sacking Mark McGhee, Peter Taylor, Dave Bassett, Martin Allen, Gary Megson or Ian Holloway.

They were sacking The Claudio Ranieri, possibly the greatest manager this club will ever have in terms of achievement, his deportment and social and professional skills. The guy is special. He does not deserve to be treated the same as the list of wasters above.

Sometimes you write good posts.
 
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