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I don’t think it’s management I don’t think we have enough quality in the mid or the ability to keep playing a 4-4-2 but no one likes to switch formation. If next week we switch the likely good we get smashed by West Brom and then Swansea
Yeah we could get smashed but doesn't mean we stick to a 442
 
I take issue with those that say we haven't got sufficient quality in the squad. We've still got nine title winners, including someone that won Footballer of the Year as well as one of the best goal scorers in the league.

Over and above them, we have spent over £125m on: Iborra (£12.5m), Iheanacho (£25m), Jakupovic (£2.5m), Maguire (£17m), N'Didi (£15m), Amartey (£5m), Gray (£2m), Benaloune (£5m), Slimani (£29m), Musa (£15m).

Then we have the likes of Hamer, King, James, Chilwell, Ulloa, Dragovic.

That's an enormous senior squad with plenty of proven quality across all positions. It may also shortly have another £22m man (Silva) added to it.

Our problem doesn't lie with having a poor squad. This squad is perfectly capable of competing with the rest of this league.

If and when we do move on from Shakespeare, a good manager will look at that group and see us for what we are. A very strong Premier League squad.
 
I take issue with those that say we haven't got sufficient quality in the squad. We've still got nine title winners, including someone that won Footballer of the Year as well as one of the best goal scorers in the league.

Over and above them, we have spent over £125m on: Iborra (£12.5m), Iheanacho (£25m), Jakupovic (£2.5m), Maguire (£17m), N'Didi (£15m), Amartey (£5m), Gray (£2m), Benaloune (£5m), Slimani (£29m), Musa (£15m).

Then we have the likes of Hamer, King, James, Chilwell, Ulloa, Dragovic.

That's an enormous senior squad with plenty of proven quality across all positions. It may also shortly have another £22m man (Silva) added to it.

Our problem doesn't lie with having a poor squad. This squad is perfectly capable of competing with the rest of this league.

If and when we do move on from Shakespeare, a good manager will look at that group and see us for what we are. A very strong Premier League squad.
Thanks BN. You've just made me feel a bit better.
 
I take issue with those that say we haven't got sufficient quality in the squad. We've still got nine title winners, including someone that won Footballer of the Year as well as one of the best goal scorers in the league.

Over and above them, we have spent over £125m on: Iborra (£12.5m), Iheanacho (£25m), Jakupovic (£2.5m), Maguire (£17m), N'Didi (£15m), Amartey (£5m), Gray (£2m), Benaloune (£5m), Slimani (£29m), Musa (£15m).

Then we have the likes of Hamer, King, James, Chilwell, Ulloa, Dragovic.

That's an enormous senior squad with plenty of proven quality across all positions. It may also shortly have another £22m man (Silva) added to it.

Our problem doesn't lie with having a poor squad. This squad is perfectly capable of competing with the rest of this league.

If and when we do move on from Shakespeare, a good manager will look at that group and see us for what we are. A very strong Premier League squad.
Money is absolutely no measure of quality. Akinbyi taught us that a long time ago.

No manager, however 'great' will make King, Amartey, James, Benalouane, Ulloa, Musa or Gray fantastic players. They just aren't and haven't got what it takes. If it was that easy, Premier League clubs would buy shite players at low prices from league 2 clubs in the hope that their wonderful managers will turn them into Ronaldo-esque superstars.

Our central midfield options are appalling and that isn't any fault of the manager who tried to improve them. Yes, he could certainly use a different system to try and make things better and I agree he should at least try this approach, but he's working with very limited individuals. The impact Kante had on that midfield is so under appreciated sometimes. He made them all look much better than they are and carried them for long periods. I agree that our defence and attack options are good if not better than they were in our title winning season but you cannot possibly suggest that our midfield is in any great shape at all. Mahrez aside, there's very little if any creativity there at all.
 
I take issue with those that say we haven't got sufficient quality in the squad. We've still got nine title winners, including someone that won Footballer of the Year as well as one of the best goal scorers in the league.

Over and above them, we have spent over £125m on: Iborra (£12.5m), Iheanacho (£25m), Jakupovic (£2.5m), Maguire (£17m), N'Didi (£15m), Amartey (£5m), Gray (£2m), Benaloune (£5m), Slimani (£29m), Musa (£15m).

Then we have the likes of Hamer, King, James, Chilwell, Ulloa, Dragovic.

That's an enormous senior squad with plenty of proven quality across all positions. It may also shortly have another £22m man (Silva) added to it.

Our problem doesn't lie with having a poor squad. This squad is perfectly capable of competing with the rest of this league.

If and when we do move on from Shakespeare, a good manager will look at that group and see us for what we are. A very strong Premier League squad.
Every now and then we all make a creditable post. BN, This is yours.
 
This run of games now is vital. If we don't win them there will be no confidence left in the team and any change of manager in 5 games time may be too late to even salvage our place in this league. I really do think there is only one way Shakespeare's reign will end if he is allowed to manage us for the rest of this season. It'll be Championship football.

For me it just makes sense to use the international break to call time on this whole thing.
 
Money is absolutely no measure of quality. Akinbyi taught us that a long time ago.

No manager, however 'great' will make King, Amartey, James, Benalouane, Ulloa, Musa or Gray fantastic players. They just aren't and haven't got what it takes. If it was that easy, Premier League clubs would buy shite players at low prices from league 2 clubs in the hope that their wonderful managers will turn them into Ronaldo-esque superstars.

Our central midfield options are appalling and that isn't any fault of the manager who tried to improve them. Yes, he could certainly use a different system to try and make things better and I agree he should at least try this approach, but he's working with very limited individuals. The impact Kante had on that midfield is so under appreciated sometimes. He made them all look much better than they are and carried them for long periods. I agree that our defence and attack options are good if not better than they were in our title winning season but you cannot possibly suggest that our midfield is in any great shape at all. Mahrez aside, there's very little if any creativity there at all.
So, if Kante made these players look better than they are, now Kante has gone, why are so many lambasting these players for not being the superstars we thought they were?
 
If the answer is Allardyce then I shudder to think what the question is.

I'm wavering. I want to support CS, I want us to show loyalty and stick with him whilst he finds his way. He seems a decent bloke; level headed and not prone to outrageous remarks, about ostriches or otherwise.

Yet at the same time I see disjointed performances on the pitch. There's no team game going on. Players seem to panic and give the ball away too easily. We don't see our players showing for the ball as they once did. The midfield is being overrun week after week, even teams like Bournemouth (no disrespect as they're well organised, work hard and support each other) are making us look 2nd rate.

With the talent that the clubs we've played so far have, you kind of expect to be out classed and chasing shadows for periods of the game but both Huddersfield and Bournemouth have showed us to be poor in the face of well drilled teams. We ought at least be a match for them.

We're not that lacking in class to be humbled by such teams. (Right now, I think even rock bottom Palace would fancy themselves against us) Something's going wrong and I don't think it's down to the players (not entirely) They're losing confidence and doubting their abilities. Maybe they're unsure as to what they're supposed to be doing?

I don't know what's happening on the training ground but I do know who's in charge there, and he only has a few more games (from my perspective) before my wavering becomes a decision. Normally, a point away from home is acceptable, but not when we play like that.
 
If the answer is Allardyce then I shudder to think what the question is.

Name someone who could do a better job than the useless, clueless lardarse Craig Shakespeare


Other acceptable answers are Paul Ince and H from Steps
 
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