EU referendum

[spionfox]

You hear of stories of local councils banning the display of St. George's flags because it might be frowned upon by non-English folk in our country

That's political correctness gone mad, nothing to do with our EU membership.

 

[pork pie fox]

The amount of shit being spoken, by both sides, before and after the vote itself, is astounding.

 

[City Fan]

The amount of shit being spoken, by both sides, before and after the vote itself, is astounding.

Agreed. That's because no one has a clue what will happen now - hence why we should never have had this referendum in the first place. We were put in a horrendous position of having to vote on something based on propaganda bullshit from both sides, rather than facts.

 

[Ike O'Noclassed]

Someone correct me ...

I'm comparatively ok about the vote not going my way, but this chorus of whining about being called out on social media and unconvincing self-justification - we get it, you've declared yourselves not to be racists - is really starting to get on my tits.

 

[spionfox]

I'm comparatively ok about the vote not going my way, but this chorus of whining about being called out on social media and unconvincing self-justification - we get it, you've declared yourselves not to be racists - is really starting to get on my tits.

If accusations weren't made, denials wouldn't be needed.

 

[fitz]

If accusations weren't made, denials wouldn't be needed.

Accusations were bound to be made when the leave campaign decided to copy this...

 

[David Gwilliam]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but a majority of the British people have shown in this referendum their desire to leave the EU. This referendum is not legally binding, it's not official until we invoke article 50. Yet we've got the head of the EU telling us the UK needs to begin the process immediately. This sums up one of the reasons as to why I voted out. It's a mass **** off from me, we will do it when we're good and ready.... Absolute dictatorship in disguise. We should be proud we hav...e stood up to this.

Additionally I was listening to Five Live this morning where they were discussing with people what their reasons were for voting out and it was an interesting listen. People who voted remain did so because they wanted to remain part of the EU but people who voted out seemed to do so for varying reasons. It seems to me like the culmination of successive governments and political figures in this country being completely out of touch with the poor and working class. An abject failure to address their fears and concerns that has built up since the recession. They're living ina bubble being the 5th biggest economy in the world thinking everything is hunky-dorey whereas the poor and working classes get to see very little positive from this, and they're totally oblivious to it. Immigrants get the blame from unemployed or people stuck on zero hour contracts. There are worries about our NHS and lack of housing and the perception is that it's going to reach breaking point until we get control of immigration numbers.

An aussie expat who voted exit gave a good example that he held a party for some friends from work, if they bring over 200 friends unexpactedly then suddenly his good will and acceptance etc of them gets lost under worries that he can't cater for them. This seems to resonate with fears of some of the UK population that successive governments have not only failed to address but also seemingly failed to notice.

You hear of stories of local councils banning the display of St. George's flags because it might be frowned upon by non-English folk in our country but they fail to realise that when people come to our country, they should arguably accept our cultures and little things like this have added up over the years. When you look at things you can see why there is so much hate building up for immigrants when UK governments seem to be putting their rights before those of their own people. It's not a case of racism. It's the case of successive governments having been incredibly naive and stupid and some people have been using the out vote as a way of hitting out at this sort of behaviour...

Excellent.
I have read a great deal on this issue from political forums etc and the best comment comes on a football forum.

 

[camberwell fox]

I can't believe it...I woke up this morning and we are still alive. What happened to immediate and sustained Armageddon?

This country will reposition itself in the face of all challenges it faces head on and will continue to thrive over the mid term.

History will prove this decision is correct for our country and its residents.

The scaremongering is just that - baseless bollocks made up to scare people to stay - that worked well didn't it?

 

[pork pie fox]

History will prove this decision is correct for our country and its residents.

Actually, Cambers, the answer is that we'll never know, as we'll never be able to prove what would have happened had the vote gone the other way. It will still be speculation and conjecture as the whether it was the correct decision.

If things go well, we'll never be able to prove we wouldn't have done better with a Remain vote and if things go badly, we'll never be able to prove they wouldn't have been worse with a Remain vote.

 

[camberwell fox]

Actually, Cambers, the answer is that we'll never know, as we'll never be able to prove what would have happened had the vote gone the other way. It will still be speculation and conjecture as the whether it was the correct decision.

If things go well, we'll never be able to prove we wouldn't have done better with a Remain vote and if things go badly, we'll never be able to prove they wouldn't have been worse with a Remain vote.

Point taken. We will prosper further outside of the EU I believe but proving it will be difficult v staying put.

 

[pork pie fox]

Point taken. We will prosper further outside of the EU I believe but proving it will be difficult v staying put.

For the record - I voted to Remain, but I'm big enough to recognise that neither side of the argument is perfect and I vehemently disagree with the way both sides have conducted themselves.

I'm also realistic enough to appreciate that, whatever the result, it was the way the majority voted and we have to accept it and move on. I fear that there are a lot of people who are unable to do that at the moment, though, due to the poisonous way the campaign was conducted, on both sides. I'm more worried by the divisions created, than by the result of the vote.

 

[fitz]

For the record - I voted to Remain, but I'm big enough to recognise that neither side of the argument is perfect and I vehemently disagree with the way both sides have conducted themselves.

I'm also realistic enough to appreciate that, whatever the result, it was the way the majority voted and we have to accept it and move on. I fear that there are a lot of people who are unable to do that at the moment, though, due to the poisonous way the campaign was conducted, on both sides. I'm more worried by the divisions created, than by the result of the vote.

Re the last bit....too right. We've learnt **** all from the shit storm up in Scotland and their referendum.

 

[Motown Fox]

"We're now up a polluted tributory without an inadequate means of return!"

This was put somewhere else and I think a number might think that way.

But hey anything can happen. Leicester City can win the Premier League, AFC Wimbledon can form a Football Club on Wimbledon Common in 2002 and 14 Years later are about to take part in League One
And Rick Astley can get to Number One in the Album charts in 2016

Yes anything is possible.

 

[Orifice]

So,
On the BBC (so it must be true..) 'Million sign petition for new EU referendum'.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36629324
Some people are stupid, some are dim, some are really pathetic. It seems a million of them have signed this petition.

If these people cared about this country they would try to help it succeed as opposed to crying and winging because it didn't go their way.

 

[Mawsley]

As a xenophobic racist, I'd just like to add that I'm not a racist or a xenophobe. I met this bloke from London once so I can't be.

 

[Mawsley]

As a xenophobic racist, I'd just like to add that I'm not a racist or a xenophobe. I met this bloke from London once so I can't be.

Forgot his name, but here he is...

 

[City Fan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36629324
Some people are stupid, some are dim, some are really pathetic. It seems a million of them have signed this petition.

This has only happened because 17 million of those people you described above, voted to leave.

 

[Orifice]

I'm sure that the chap that set up the petition would have done the same had REMAIN won with 52%.

Shall we have a Best Of Three ?

 

[City Fan]

I'm sure that the chap that set up the petition would have done the same had REMAIN won with 52%.

Shall we have a Best Of Three ?

For me it should be 60% for a change as big as that.

If we weren't currently in and we were voting whether to go in or not, if 52% said in then likewise that shouldn't go through.

 

[homer]

Only worth runnng it again if we exclude old people, uneducated people and vile racists from voting

Otherwise we should just get on with making the best job of the shitty mess we now have to deal with