Fulham Post Match Thread

[alex]

RK was very abrupt when asked about the MM take over on the radio last night after the match. I think he knows he is going. A dead man walking IMO

And possibly completely sick and tired of the non-stop bullshit that is this takeover. A bit like me.

 

[Naughty Fox]

Before I start I have not read all of the posts and could not make the game last night so can only comment from the RL coverage. But what the feck is all the negativity We go away to a prem team (albeit not the best in the land, but how many players from their team would you have in ours) sound like we played some good stuff at times, score three very good goals and give them a game. I know we ended up loosing to a school boy error, but fecking hell at least we gave it a very good go and the biggest difference is they could bring ona player that cost 18 million not so long ago who sounded like he changed the game in their favour.

Yes we made some mistakes and they cost us, a few games ago the team looked like they did not give a sh*t, but they seem to be getting their acts together a bit more and at least trying, some on here seem like they would have been happier to have lost 4-0.

A last word on RK, whilst all of this takeover stuff is going on and he is not sure of his future I think he has done a fair job of getting himself motivated enough to turn around the poor performances against Southampton and Sunderland and give a prem side two decent games.

 

[Hazzman]

Hazza, what difference does the crowd make...... Fulham and their small following won.

None, just makes you particularly bitter when teams like Fulham, Watford, Sheffield United, Wigan pollute the Premiership.

IMO people need to take a step back in expectations, the Villa and Fulham game proved we lack the quality and leadership where required. We are a young team who need some experience, we are stablising, for me last night's game is a lesson learned for many of the youngsters out there. At current standing, the players are not good enough or experience enough to neutralise a game against Premier opposition. Add a 4 or 5 new faces in probelm areas and this side with the right motivation will be Top 10 material IMO.

 

[Dunc]

None, just makes you particularly bitter when teams like Fulham, Watford, Sheffield United, Wigan pollute the Premiership.

IMO people need to take a step back in expectations, the Villa and Fulham game proved we lack the quality and leadership where required. We are a young team who need some experience, we are stablising, for me last night's game is a lesson learned for many of the youngsters out there. At current standing, the players are not good enough or experience enough to neutralise a game against Premier opposition. Add a 4 or 5 new faces in probelm areas and this side with the right motivation will be Top 10 material IMO.

Most sensible post on this thread IMO

 

[Dunc]

Before I start I have not read all of the posts and could not make the game last night so can only comment from the RL coverage. But what the feck is all the negativity We go away to a prem team (albeit not the best in the land, but how many players from their team would you have in ours) sound like we played some good stuff at times, score three very good goals and give them a game. I know we ended up loosing to a school boy error, but fecking hell at least we gave it a very good go and the biggest difference is they could bring ona player that cost 18 million not so long ago who sounded like he changed the game in their favour.

Yes we made some mistakes and they cost us, a few games ago the team looked like they did not give a sh*t, but they seem to be getting their acts together a bit more and at least trying, some on here seem like they would have been happier to have lost 4-0.

A last word on RK, whilst all of this takeover stuff is going on and he is not sure of his future I think he has done a fair job of getting himself motivated enough to turn around the poor performances against Southampton and Sunderland and give a prem side two decent games.

Also a very sensible thread.

I was thinking last night that how many of our players are actually proven at any level higher than what they are playing now?

I could only think of Johnanson and AJ who is past it now anyway.

So to expect the team (and the majority of which are young and inexperienced) to learn how to defend a 3-1 lead against a full 1st Fulham eleven as they play is a bit much. I agree that we shouldn't let leads like that slip but we can only hope these players learn from the experience and put it right the next time we are in a similar situation.

As I said in a thread a few weeks ago, we should be encouraging these young players who have ability to develop into players capable of challenging for promotion (and maybe even above that) not castigating them because they didn't beat an established Premier League team and are still learning at the sharp end.

Oh, and I notice that without any irony that people are now saying Fryatt is quite good again and not "shite", "won't score all season" and the like. He's 19, he's going to go through dips in form especially when he's playing through injuries and niggles.

 

[Melton Fox]

IMO people need to take a step back in expectations

Poppycock.

I didn't really go there expecting us to turn over Fulham. We were 3-1 up, they provided us with the expectation. The expectation wasn't a fantasy Hazza, it was real, we really were 3-1 up.

 

[OldGit]

Also a very sensible thread.

I was thinking last night that how many of our players are actually proven at any level higher than what they are playing now?

I could only think of Johnanson and AJ who is past it now anyway.

So to expect the team (and the majority of which are young and inexperienced) to learn how to defend a 3-1 lead against a full 1st Fulham eleven as they play is a bit much. I agree that we shouldn't let leads like that slip but we can only hope these players learn from the experience and put it right the next time we are in a similar situation.

As I said in a thread a few weeks ago, we should be encouraging these young players who have ability to develop into players capable of challenging for promotion (and maybe even above that) not castigating them because they didn't beat an established Premier League team and are still learning at the sharp end.

Oh, and I notice that without any irony that people are now saying Fryatt is quite good again and not "shite", "won't score all season" and the like. He's 19, he's going to go through dips in form especially when he's playing through injuries and niggles.

 

[Hazzman]

Poppycock.

I didn't really go there expecting us to turn over Fulham. We were 3-1 up, they provided us with the expectation. The expectation wasn't a fantasy Hazza, it was real, we really were 3-1 up.

A game lasts 90 minutes, not 48....

 

[Melton Fox]

So to expect the team (and the majority of which are young and inexperienced) to learn how to defend a 3-1 lead against a full 1st Fulham eleven as they play is a bit much.

Shocked Dunc, absolutely shocked at that statement.

3-1 up and wanting the game more than Fulham did, I fully expected them to hang on to it. Fulham are not Man Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea, they were there for the taking. If our fans seriously think we were perfectly entitled to roll over and submit because they were a Premier League team, then I'm well and truly shocked

 

[homer]

Oh, and I notice that without any irony that people are now saying Fryatt is quite good again and not "shite", "won't score all season" and the like. He's 19, he's going to go through dips in form especially when he's playing through injuries and niggles.

No irony needed

There's Money on its way, and the (perceived) possibility of success in the future

For the rest of the season these feckers will be unrecognisable from the uninterested passionless goons that have to date paraded around the Walkers in the pantomime pretence of playing football - Fryatt being the prime example

 

[highland fox]

Also a very sensible thread.

I was thinking last night that how many of our players are actually proven at any level higher than what they are playing now?

I could only think of Johnanson and AJ who is past it now anyway.

So to expect the team (and the majority of which are young and inexperienced) to learn how to defend a 3-1 lead against a full 1st Fulham eleven as they play is a bit much. I agree that we shouldn't let leads like that slip but we can only hope these players learn from the experience and put it right the next time we are in a similar situation.

As I said in a thread a few weeks ago, we should be encouraging these young players who have ability to develop into players capable of challenging for promotion (and maybe even above that) not castigating them because they didn't beat an established Premier League team and are still learning at the sharp end.
Oh, and I notice that without any irony that people are now saying Fryatt is quite good again and not "shite", "won't score all season" and the like. He's 19, he's going to go through dips in form especially when he's playing through injuries and niggles.

I think its when they are seen not to be putting any effort in and appear to not give a shit that they get the flak.I think they did very well last night and i never gave us a chance before kick off,Fulham are a decent side.I agree and think they should be supported but at the same time they aren't exempt from crticism if they aren't putting the effort in

 

[Melton Fox]

A game lasts 90 minutes, not 48....

Well tell that to Rob Fecking Kelly and his players Hazza

 

[highland fox]

I was abit surprised when at 3-1 we didn't switch to 4-5-1 but I suppose we weren't on front long enough to try it

 

[Dunc]

I think its when they are seen not to be putting any effort in and appear to not give a shit that they get the flak.I think they did very well last night and i never gave us a chance before kick off,Fulham are a decent side.I agree and think they should be supported but at the same time they aren't exempt from crticism if they aren't putting the effort in

But they did put the effort in and are getting flak that the point

 

[highland fox]

But they did put the effort in and are getting flak that the point

But in the past they haven't always

 

[Hazzman]

Well tell that to Rob Fecking Kelly and his players Hazza

In a game where there has been 4 goals in 47 minutes and both defences look torrid. With Fulham bring on a striker whose proven himself at a higher level and Leicester's two strikers causing probelm. Did you expect they're not to being another goal. As soon as Fulham got their second, you knew City's naivety and lack of experience would let them down. We need someone on 48 minutes to say, 'it's not over, roll you're sleeves and let's keep hold of the ball'. At the minute, we havent got that and that's probelm. I would not put the loss down to a bad performance in this instance but naivety, unexperienced and players still learning. They thought the game was over.

Mistakes were made, a more experienced Weso on the 4th goal, might have nailed Routledge and gave a free-kick and took the yellow card. A more-rounded Maculay might have got tighter on Radzinski for the first.

The only selection mistake made last night was Maculay at right-back.

 

[Melton Fox]

So you're agreeing with me Hazza?

 

[Joe_Fox]

If we had won then we'd be happy, alas we didn't so we're all sad.
But I've a headache and feel like death but it really isn't all that bad

Milan is coming to save our souls and cheer us up with sausage rolls.
A new day will dawn and the horizon is blue, now listen up - I'm talking to you!

We've lost 4-3 after winning by two - jesus! that's a bit de ja vu
But never mind - it's only one game and we'll bounce back, we won't be lame (unlike that line of this poem).


Now shrug off those frowns and for fox sake cheer up
So what, we're out of the cup!
Who gives a damn about one competition, by the end of the season all our plans will come into fruition.

We're going places and I'm not talking Grimsby
Milan's cheques - they sure aint flimsy
A few canny signings and it's up up and away
I can see it, I can feel it - we're heading for happy days.

And that concludes this beastly poem
We're not up shit creek with no paddle - we are rowing.
Rowing towards our sunny future
With silverware and celebrations - it'll all be super.

Joe_Fox (terribly hungover 18/01/07 - a.m.)

 

[sparky79]

The main positive from last night were the proof that there are fundamentally not a great deal of problems with the team, and with a few Mandaric bought players we could be a really good footballing side.
Hume and Fryatt were excellent, Fryatt particularly is really intelligent user of the ball when he's fit. Goof finish and run.
Wesolowski and Willams are the partnership for us in midfield out of present players. Weso was everywhere and Williams had the best touch of any midfielder on the pitch.
Our only problems stemmed from two full backs playing out of position meaning crosses from radzinski and routledge were too easy to get in too often.
Whoever said Levi Porter was out of his depth is BLIND. he showed pace good use of the ball, good positional play and a willingness to get up and down.
Downsides were:
Hughes - waste of space, por use of the ball no pace etc etc, we need a new right winger.
McCarthy, might be willing to give blood, but showed that when we have a regular right back, McAuley should take his place.
Maybury, not a left back, our 4th best right back. Get rid of him as soon as we can.

All in all, without Montella, we would have strolled the second half. He was class, and all good things went through him and routledge in the second half.

 

[Melton Fox]

Spot on Sparky

edit- Although I would add that Hume wasn't that good last night and Porter did struggle, but I think he will make the step up soon

Essentially we have the makings of a team to get promoted, just the attitude and tactics need to change