General Election June 8th

[camberwell fox]

There's no place for talk like that on this forum.

On the not work safe section?

 

[fitz]

There's no place for talk like that on this forum.

There used to be. This place has gone downhill.

 

[FIF]

There used to be. This place has gone downhill.

I think he was just joking. That's how I took it anyway.

 

[Blaarev]

There's no place for talk like that on this forum.

Not until Pop confirms

 

[fitz]

I think he was just joking. That's how I took it anyway.

In the safe house?

 

[jb5000]

Who cares where the image comes from, is there an element of truth in it?

Yes, yes there is.

 

[Mawsley]

Who cares where the image comes from?

* All of us, it's the only issue that matters.

 

[FIF]

In the safe house?

Is that a euphemism?

 

[fitz]

Is that a euphemism?

Isn't everything?

 

[bocadillo]

Isn't everything?

This isn't:

 

[fitz]

This isn't:

Filth

 

[Blaarev]

I, my God? Ture.

 

[FIF]

Isn't everything?

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more.

 

[Brown Nose]

 

[give_us_a_wave]

Nothing but boredom on the telly for weeks on end as political pundits, fresh from a year of getting everything completely wrong, breathe a sigh of relief at the prospect of the most foregone conclusion in electoral history. The entire western world has veered so markedly to the right during my adult life that only a particular sort of Daily Mail loony can now still trot out the " Gone to hell in a handcart thanks to the Liberal Elite " mantra. Perhaps the most bizarre aspect of this is that these days the Russians think it's great. Politics as I knew it growing up is dead. Left & Right have no meaning anymore. It's just a case of which particular corporate agenda or section thereof you are bought by.
Decades of privatisation lead to this. When I was young the state was responsible for almost everything...heavy industries, communications,transport,energy etc etc. All of that is now in private hands. Government controls nothing now...apart from one thing...US. People. Having no say in anything else leaves them free to spend all their time figuring out new ways to milk us dry. All we are is a resource, not a citizenry. Whether it be taxation, cutting service provision, stagnating pay rates or whatever, the focus is on the cash cow that is the UK population. We are governed these days by middle managers rather then statesmen or ideologies. Ideology is dead.
This is where the Corbyn panic comes from. Especially within Labour. His brand of long-thought-dead moderate Socialism (because thats what it is) is a threat to some noses in some troughs.

Perhaps the biggest pile of shit in all of this is the procession of Blairite nobodies who have called Corbyn an anachronism.

****ing hell.

Pot/Kettle?

Is it 1997 then? **** me I could have sworn it was later than that. Must get me watch mended.

You can only get away with pretending to be the Tories once. It won't work again. The 2017 Tories are much more Tory than the 90s/2000s Tories.So you won't be fooling anyone.

We've got a decade & a half minimum of Tory govt coming & by the end of that there won't be an alternative in any real sense. I'll be on my pension by then...assuming the ****s haven't stolen it.

Brexit? ****ing meaningless. Even though the entire borefest campaign will be fought on it. At least 70% of the political class across all parties are pro remain. Including The Tin Lady. So that's what you're getting. Davies is only in there as window dressing & has been promised a cushy number in the Lords for playing the role (or some other nice position among the grandees at Central Office)

Afterwards? 2 years of slipping through vicious legislation completely unnoticed while everyone concentrates on the Brexit non-event.

So...goodbye social housing, goodbye NHS, farewell to a whole raft of benefits, bye bye to Higher Education for anyone whose parents don't pull 50K a year minimum. Hello to the decimation of employee rights, the surveillance society & massive cuts to any service that rich people don't need to use.

The only hope is that the Tories somehow self destruct within a few years through their usual habits of sex & financial scandals. Probably not though as that usually accelerates only after a fair few years in power when they get jaded & directionless & the people finally figure out that they're just as skint as they've ever been & have less opportunities.

Actually no...the OTHER hope is another MASSIVE financial crash. Worse than the last one. Much worse. So appallingly bad that house prices fall to a level where an average person could maybe consider that they might actually be able to buy one some day. This is IMO more likely. I hope so anyway...even if only so I can ring a bloke I know just to ask " Hey Bob, what's your ****ing house worth now then you ****? "

 

[Mawsley]

Nothing but boredom on the telly for weeks on end as political pundits, fresh from a year of getting everything completely wrong, breathe a sigh of relief at the prospect of the most foregone conclusion in electoral history. The entire western world has veered so markedly to the right during my adult life that only a particular sort of Daily Mail loony can now still trot out the " Gone to hell in a handcart thanks to the Liberal Elite " mantra. Perhaps the most bizarre aspect of this is that these days the Russians think it's great. Politics as I knew it growing up is dead. Left & Right have no meaning anymore. It's just a case of which particular corporate agenda or section thereof you are bought by.
Decades of privatisation lead to this. When I was young the state was responsible for almost everything...heavy industries, communications,transport,energy etc etc. All of that is now in private hands. Government controls nothing now...apart from one thing...US. People. Having no say in anything else leaves them free to spend all their time figuring out new ways to milk us dry. All we are is a resource, not a citizenry. Whether it be taxation, cutting service provision, stagnating pay rates or whatever, the focus is on the cash cow that is the UK population. We are governed these days by middle managers rather then statesmen or ideologies. Ideology is dead.
This is where the Corbyn panic comes from. Especially within Labour. His brand of long-thought-dead moderate Socialism (because thats what it is) is a threat to some noses in some troughs.

Perhaps the biggest pile of shit in all of this is the procession of Blairite nobodies who have called Corbyn an anachronism.

****ing hell.

Pot/Kettle?

Is it 1997 then? **** me I could have sworn it was later than that. Must get me watch mended.

You can only get away with pretending to be the Tories once. It won't work again. The 2017 Tories are much more Tory than the 90s/2000s Tories.So you won't be fooling anyone.

We've got a decade & a half minimum of Tory govt coming & by the end of that there won't be an alternative in any real sense. I'll be on my pension by then...assuming the ****s haven't stolen it.

Brexit? ****ing meaningless. Even though the entire borefest campaign will be fought on it. At least 70% of the political class across all parties are pro remain. Including The Tin Lady. So that's what you're getting. Davies is only in there as window dressing & has been promised a cushy number in the Lords for playing the role (or some other nice position among the grandees at Central Office)

Afterwards? 2 years of slipping through vicious legislation completely unnoticed while everyone concentrates on the Brexit non-event.

So...goodbye social housing, goodbye NHS, farewell to a whole raft of benefits, bye bye to Higher Education for anyone whose parents don't pull 50K a year minimum. Hello to the decimation of employee rights, the surveillance society & massive cuts to any service that rich people don't need to use.

The only hope is that the Tories somehow self destruct within a few years through their usual habits of sex & financial scandals. Probably not though as that usually accelerates only after a fair few years in power when they get jaded & directionless & the people finally figure out that they're just as skint as they've ever been & have less opportunities.

Actually no...the OTHER hope is another MASSIVE financial crash. Worse than the last one. Much worse. So appallingly bad that house prices fall to a level where an average person could maybe consider that they might actually be able to buy one some day. This is IMO more likely. I hope so anyway...even if only so I can ring a bloke I know just to ask " Hey Bob, what's your ****ing house worth now then you ****? "

So, I'll pop you down as "undecided" then?

 

[FIF]

Centrist party looks likely to win in France with a surge for the far left candidate - who had a lot of ideas that young people liked. Le Pen got what was expected and if the Socialists had given up their poor 6% it could have been a Macron v Melenchon second round.

Seems the French people are keeping their heads better than most. They possibly follow and understand politics better than most too.

 

[Lako42]

Could we see a lower turnout for this non event than in 1918?


I have no vote to make, how sad is that.

 

[FIF]

I think it's actually quite exciting.





But then again I'm a Leicester fan.

 

[Lako42]

I think it's actually quite exciting.





But then again I'm a Leicester fan.

Watching an insipid individual like TM gain a stranglehold on the entire political landscape and most likely destroying her nearest rivals is more terrifying than exciting.