Lee Morris

[Redditch Fox]

just saw on sky sports news that woodgate has now said he hasn't had a break down and will travel with the rest of the squad to austria for pre-season

Might be related to the reported hints given by Real about terminating his contract .

 

[Jedi]

When MA purchased Canero & Morris he clearly didn't do his homework (no surprise there!) and just wanted younger players in, however neither have made any impact apart from with the physios who they probably know very well by now! Wouln't be surprised if Morris never played for us again.

 

[Durham Fox]

When MA purchased Canero & Morris he clearly didn't do his homework (no surprise there!) and just wanted younger players in, however neither have made any impact apart from with the physios who they probably know very well by now! Wouln't be surprised if Morris never played for us again.

Morris will probably never play again. Think Eadie, Jones etc.

 

[drummindefender]

When MA purchased Canero & Morris he clearly didn't do his homework (no surprise there!) and just wanted younger players in, however neither have made any impact apart from with the physios who they probably know very well by now! Wouln't be surprised if Morris never played for us again.

Canero could get fit if he made the effort

 

[Redditch Fox]

Morris will probably never play again. Think Eadie, Jones etc.

I think I forecast last year at around this stage - when we were being posted about his great potential - that he would never play more than 10 games in a season.
The fact is that some players are not physically equipped to sustain a career in professional football - he appears to be one - Darren Eadie was another - they are all unfortunate to some extent - but that's the way it is.

 

[bocadillo]

The fact is that some players are not physically equipped to sustain a career in professional football - he appears to be one - Darren Eadie was another - they are all unfortunate to some extent - but that's the way it is.

I think that might be a little unfair on both of them (why am I trying to be fair to Lee Morris??). Darren Eadie had one season with Norwich where he played over 40 games, so i don't think they was anything inherently wrong with him as far as the playing of the game was concerned. Lee Morris never played quite so many in a season but I think he managed almost 30 once.

The fact is that they both suffered injuries from which they never recovered, but instead of just giving up they tried to get fit enough to get back into the game. If any blame attaches to anyone, it probably should be to the people who brought them to the club. Although havign said that, they probably brought them into the club at a lower proce than if they had had full fitness. If they had been able to recover and give good service, we would have thought they were a bargain. Perhaps we should console ourselves with that.

In the present set of new players, there must be soem concerns that Kisnorbo will finish up in the same category in a year or two. It's all part of the risk of the business.

 

[Redditch Fox]

I think that might be a little unfair on both of them (why am I trying to be fair to Lee Morris??). Darren Eadie had one season with Norwich where he played over 40 games, so i don't think they was anything inherently wrong with him as far as the playing of the game was concerned. Lee Morris never played quite so many in a season but I think he managed almost 30 once.

The fact is that they both suffered injuries from which they never recovered, but instead of just giving up they tried to get fit enough to get back into the game. If any blame attaches to anyone, it probably should be to the people who brought them to the club. Although havign said that, they probably brought them into the club at a lower proce than if they had had full fitness. If they had been able to recover and give good service, we would have thought they were a bargain. Perhaps we should console ourselves with that.

In the present set of new players, there must be soem concerns that Kisnorbo will finish up in the same category in a year or two. It's all part of the risk of the business.

Well, football management is all about making judgements about players and I think Micky's judgement is not particularly good.

Eadie was once upon a time rated as a £6m player and i think MON paid around for £3m for him because he had a dodgy injury record. MON was right most of the time - but he is human like (most of) the rest of us.

However, I think there was a lot of optimism about Eadie -whereas the Morris acquisition looked about as clever as that of Nathan Blake and I'm sorry to say....... Jason Wilcox.

 

[bocadillo]

Well, football management is all about making judgements about players and I think Micky's judgement is not particularly good.

Eadie was once upon a time rated as a £6m player and i think MON paid around for £3m for him because he had a dodgy injury record. MON was right most of the time - but he is human like (most of) the rest of us.

However, I think there was a lot of optimism about Eadie -whereas the Morris acquisition looked about as clever as that of Nathan Blake and I'm sorry to say....... Jason Wilcox.

I make you right on all except the last two words of that. I do think Wilcox will be a useful player if we can get him into the game.

 

[Redditch Fox]

I make you right on all except the last two words of that. I do think Wilcox will be a useful player if we can get him into the game.

Wilcox was once a half-decent player.

However, how often does such a player - who has had years of successive injury setbacks and who is approaching the end of his career - finish on a high note?

 

[mitcho_uk]

I wonder if the club will look at ending morriss's contract too. That way we will free up some more money for players.

 

[highland fox]

I wonder if the club will look at ending morriss's contract too. That way we will free up some more money for players.

What ????? we are fecking paying him to do nothing?

 

[bocadillo]

I wonder if the club will look at ending morriss's contract too. That way we will free up some more money for players.

I don't think such action really does free up any money; the contract will have to be paid up. The only way we could save is if there was something in the severance agreement to say that any monies (or a proportion thereof) earned during the contract period would be submitted to the club.

There may be a chance that some money could come back from Canero if such a deal has been struck, but I do wonder whether Morris is likely to get another job in football. (The expenses of finding another job and other costs would be allowed against the amount due to be returned)

All in all, it isn't going to be any kind of financial boost.

 

[fcukcov]

I don't think such action really does free up any money; the contract will have to be paid up. The only way we could save is if there was something in the severance agreement to say that any monies (or a proportion thereof) earned during the contract period would be submitted to the club.

There may be a chance that some money could come back from Canero if such a deal has been struck, but I do wonder whether Morris is likely to get another job in football. (The expenses of finding another job and other costs would be allowed against the amount due to be returned)

All in all, it isn't going to be any kind of financial boost.

Unless the player has fallen out with the manager (as seems to be the case with Canero) It makes you wonder what we actually get out of it!?

 

[bocadillo]

Unless the player has fallen out with the manager (as seems to be the case with Canero) It makes you wonder what we actually get out of it!?

Sometimes a player like this can be a 'weight around the neck' and have a negative effect on the atmosphere at the club. They also need attention from physios etc when their time could be better spent on getting regular players fully fit.

There is a saying that if you're not part of the answer, then you're part of the problem. Canero was certainly not seen as being part of the answer, so City got rid of part of the problem.

 

[fcukcov]

Sometimes a player like this can be a 'weight around the neck' and have a negative effect on the atmosphere at the club. They also need attention from physios etc when their time could be better spent on getting regular players fully fit.

Good point boc.

 

[Graz]

I think often when contracts are "mutually terminated", the contract has to be paid up, but the player often agrees to take less money in the package than he would get if he stayed for the length of his contract.
So for example, say Canero was earning £5,000 pw for 1 year more, that's £260,000 but with us paying up his contract he might've only taken about £200,000 or something..

I don't think they usually get the full amount of their contract, otherwise the club really have nothing to gain from it.

 

[bocadillo]

I think often when contracts are "mutually terminated", the contract has to be paid up, but the player often agrees to take less money in the package than he would get if he stayed for the length of his contract.
So for example, say Canero was earning £5,000 pw for 1 year more, that's £260,000 but with us paying up his contract he might've only taken about £200,000 or something..

I don't think they usually get the full amount of their contract, otherwise the club really have nothing to gain from it.

Using you figures, canero would then choose to go if (and only if) he thought he could earn £60,000 elsewhere. Now you see the reason that Lee Morris is unlikely to go.


I do think it's more likely however that the agreement is made 'conditional' upon how much they can earn elsewhere.

 

[Graz]

Using you figures, canero would then choose to go if (and only if) he thought he could earn £60,000 elsewhere. Now you see the reason that Lee Morris is unlikely to go.


I do think it's more likely however that the agreement is made 'conditional' upon how much they can earn elsewhere.

Yeah agreed. The reason players will often take less money than they are entitled to because it frees up oppurtunities to go elsewhere and earn more money.
No one would want Lee Morris. Except maybe Micky Adams...

 

[fcukcov]

Yeah agreed. The reason players will often take less money than they are entitled to because it frees up oppurtunities to go elsewhere and earn more money.
No one would want Lee Morris. Except maybe Micky Adams...

Now theres a thought but does Micky Adams know that Micky Adams wants Lee Morris.......ok ill shut up now, get my light sabre and leave.

 

[Jedi]

Morris might have to retire in which case Leicester don't owe him anything!