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I think from the first 4 games I've taken the following :
We're not going to get relegated. We have far too much quality.
Ndidi and Mendy are going to be fantastic in midfield this season.
We're woefully short of strikers after Vardy. Gray isn't a striker.
Chilwell is going to be a fantastic left back.
We've bought well this summer.
 
It’s because I agree with each point regardless of who the manager is. But thanks for your contribution - as insightful and brilliant as always.
So you agree that we created precisely nothing all game?
 
It’s because I agree with each point regardless of who the manager is. But thanks for your contribution - as insightful and brilliant as always.
I take it that you also can’t see a vast improvement on how we played last season?

We are still getting to grips with new players trying to get used to playing with each other, this is going to take about 10 games until we get so until them we will still look a little disjointed. Yesterday we had Mendy (practically a new signing), Perreira, Maddison and Chezzai (sp). No team could introduce about a third of the players into a team and it not take time to get up to speed.

Surely you can see a vast improvement?
 
Quite interesting to see some of the comments. Against two top teams, Manure and Liverpool we have not been outclassed. Based on yesterday's performance where we saw a city team at the same level as Liverpool, we were not outclassed.
Apart from Vardy scoring, because of his speed threat, he stops teams from pressing us into our own half Ianacho cannot do that.
The main issue we have is Morgan. The standard of players in the team has moved on but he hasn't. He has become a liability. As an example, there was an occasion where he needed to head a ball out of defence (without being under pressure) with 3 unmarked city players to the left and two to the right. So he nuts it straight to the Liverpool players in front of him putting us under threat of attack.
Replace Morgan, hopefully with the new defender when he is fit and we should tick along nicely.

One other point. Puel has shipped out some very expensive rubbish players and replaced them with a better standard. Liverpool, on the other hand had a very god and more importantly, a settled team.

I look forward to the Bournemouth game with confidence.
 
So you agree that we created precisely nothing all game?
Well, apart from the Morgan fluff, yes pretty much.

We were decent all over the pitch apart from in both penalty boxes. Gray up front instead of Nacho was mind numbingly stupid.
 
I take it that you also can’t see a vast improvement on how we played last season?
I mean nothing could be worse than the last four months of last season so of course it’s better.

But was the narrow loss yesterday any better than the narrow loss at home to Liverpool last season under Shakespeare? Not in my opinion.
 
I still think we’ve been too slow to start. Wolves didn’t take advantage, Liverpool did, but we can’t afford to give teams a head start.
 
Well, apart from the Morgan fluff, yes pretty much.

We were decent all over the pitch apart from in both penalty boxes. Gray up front instead of Nacho was mind numbingly stupid.
Nacho has flattered to deceive. He looked great in pre season but this far has been gash.

On merit he didn’t deserve a place in the starting line up. I thought Maddison was a bit off the pace yesterday and he will never be at his best without a Vardy type player up top with him.

Any team will miss a player of Vardy’s pedigree and threat I believe.
 
Watched the game back this morning. Football is all about goals, and I want to focus on our ability at either end.

I don't blame Ricardo for the first goal. It was just all round sloppy defending. Ndidi was as much to blame as anyone as he didn't spot the danger and was attracted to the ball. He should have been where the ball went.

The second goal was clearly Maddison's error. We now defend set pieces with a mix of zonal and man marking. It looks an absolute mess but yesterday was the first time we've been caught out with it (so far). Our best headers of the ball no longer man mark which is just counter-intuitive to me, and I think, to them too.

Whatever way you look at it, young players make mistakes and we're going to concede goals like we did yesterday. Especially playing a back four with two attacking full backs and central defenders that are encouraged to pass out of defence.

We averaged 1.6 goals against last season and I see no reason why we're going to do better this time overall. Unless Soyuncu is some genius, the same issues remain. The problem with this is that we then need to score at least two in most matches to get anything.

Taking Mahrez out of the team means fewer goals for us. Maddison is the solution to this but he's got too much pressure and expectation on his shoulders for my liking. We're absolutely desperate for Vardy to come back in and be at his best for us. Ultimately, I just can't see us scoring more than last season or conceding less.

So, it doesn't really matter that much how the playing style is changing, or our possession stats are improving, or our average age is reducing. We remain a team that can usually be okay against weaker opposition but who can also never really compete with teams with the better players.

Klopp spoke about how he was happy with his teams performance, including sitting back and playing counter attack when we had spells of possession. Mourinho was exactly the same. It's nice to see us playing good football but it's not good enough to hurt these teams. They will mostly be able to keep us out and then exploit our inevitable errors.

So, much as I can see that the football is better than it was in the second half of last season, what are we trying to achieve? When we played a style of football that was deliberately different, it gave us a chance against anyone. Now we're just settling for secondary status and a few condescending pats on the back.

If you're spending over £100m on an already strong squad, is that enough? We should be nowhere near a relegation battle as our squad is far superior to several others, but is all we're about trying to finish nearer to 7th than 10th and hope to avoid the big teams in the cups?
 
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Watched the game back this morning. Football is all about goals, and I want to focus on our ability at either end.

I don't blame Ricardo for the first goal. It was just all round sloppy defending. Ndidi was as much to blame as anyone as he didn't spot the danger and was attracted to the ball. He should have been where the ball went.

The second goal was clearly Maddison's error. We now defend set pieces with a mix of zonal and man marking. It looks an absolute mess but yesterday was the first time we've been caught out with it (so far). Our best headers of the ball no longer man mark which is just counter-intuitive to me, and I think, to them too.

Whatever way you look at it, young players make mistakes and we're going to concede goals like we did yesterday. Especially playing a back four with two attacking full backs and central defenders that are encouraged to pass out of defence.

We averaged 1.6 goals against last season and I see no reason why we're going to do better this time overall. Unless Soyuncu is some genius, the same issues remain. The problem with this is that we then need to score at least two in most matches to get anything.

Taking Mahrez out of the team means fewer goals for us. Maddison is the solution to this but he's got too much pressure and expectation on his shoulders for my liking. We're absolutely desperate for Vardy to come back in and be at his best for us. Ultimately, I just can't see us scoring more than last season or conceding less.

So, it doesn't really matter that much how the playing style is changing, or our possession stats are improving, or our average age is reducing. We remain a team that can usually be okay against weaker opposition but who can also never really compete with teams with the better players.

Klopp spoke about how he was happy with his teams performance, including sitting back and playing counter attack when we had spells of possession. Mourinho was exactly the same. It's nice to see us playing good football but it's not good enough to hurt these teams. They will mostly be able to keep us out and then exploit our inevitable errors.

So, much as I can see that the football is better than it was in the second half of last season, what are we trying to achieve? When we played a style of football that was deliberately different, it gave us a chance against anyone. Now we're just settling for secondary status and a few condescending pats on the back.

If you're spending over £100m on an already strong squad, is that enough? We should be nowhere near a relegation battle as our squad is far superior to several others, but is all we're about trying to finish nearer to 7th than 10th and hope to avoid the big teams in the cups?

“When we played a style of football that was deliberately different, it gave us a chance against anyone. Now we're just settling for secondary status and a few condescending pats on the back”.

That’s 100% absolutely the exact root of my frustration. Was talking about that with my parents yesterday after the results. What is the point of playing in the same style as the bigger clubs when all that means is the team with the best players wins? It’s an inevitability that we finish around 7-8 because that’s how much our squad is worth and we seem happy to play well in this style and lose than actually ruffle the feathers. I find it antithetical to what we’ve stood for for a long time. It’s amazing. The footballing world seems to have completely forgotten what made Leicester successful in the first place. Including Leicester. It’s fine to evolve but we are, like many others, falling into The Pepball trap.
 
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“When we played a style of football that was deliberately different, it gave us a chance against anyone. Now we're just settling for secondary status and a few condescending pats on the back”.

That’s 100% absolutely the exact root of my frustration. Was talking about that with my parents yesterday after the results. What is the point of playing in the same style as the bigger clubs when all that means is the team with the best team wins. It’s an inevitability that we finish around 7-8 because that’s how much our squad is worth and we seem happy to play well in this style and lose than actually ruffle the feathers. I find it antithetical to what we’ve stood for for a long time. It’s amazing. The footballing world seems to have completely forgotten what made Peicester successful in the first place. Including Leicester.
Watched the game back this morning. Football is all about goals, and I want to focus on our ability at either end.

I don't blame Ricardo for the first goal. It was just all round sloppy defending. Ndidi was as much to blame as anyone as he didn't spot the danger and was attracted to the ball. He should have been where the ball went.

The second goal was clearly Maddison's error. We now defend set pieces with a mix of zonal and man marking. It looks an absolute mess but yesterday was the first time we've been caught out with it (so far). Our best headers of the ball no longer man mark which is just counter-intuitive to me, and I think, to them too.

Whatever way you look at it, young players make mistakes and we're going to concede goals like we did yesterday. Especially playing a back four with two attacking full backs and central defenders that are encouraged to pass out of defence.

We averaged 1.6 goals against last season and I see no reason why we're going to do better this time overall. Unless Soyuncu is some genius, the same issues remain. The problem with this is that we then need to score at least two in most matches to get anything.

Taking Mahrez out of the team means fewer goals for us. Maddison is the solution to this but he's got too much pressure and expectation on his shoulders for my liking. We're absolutely desperate for Vardy to come back in and be at his best for us. Ultimately, I just can't see us scoring more than last season or conceding less.

So, it doesn't really matter that much how the playing style is changing, or our possession stats are improving, or our average age is reducing. We remain a team that can usually be okay against weaker opposition but who can also never really compete with teams with the better players.

Klopp spoke about how he was happy with his teams performance, including sitting back and playing counter attack when we had spells of possession. Mourinho was exactly the same. It's nice to see us playing good football but it's not good enough to hurt these teams. They will mostly be able to keep us out and then exploit our inevitable errors.

So, much as I can see that the football is better than it was in the second half of last season, what are we trying to achieve? When we played a style of football that was deliberately different, it gave us a chance against anyone. Now we're just settling for secondary status and a few condescending pats on the back.

If you're spending over £100m on an already strong squad, is that enough? We should be nowhere near a relegation battle as our squad is far superior to several others, but is all we're about trying to finish nearer to 7th than 10th and hope to avoid the big teams in the cups?
But we’re not the finished article yet. We have completely changed our style from that season as everyone spotted that it was a bit of a one off.

We are playing very good football and I fully expect in about 6 games to be firing on all cylinders.

I then see is getting bing the bike g boys a bloody nose.
 
My thoughts exactly - it signalled we were happy with a 1-2 defeat ( or concede again) as Amartey would never be expected to score or provide an assist. Aside from that, I thought the whole team played very well in second half - even before we were gifted a comedy goal. Pity Morgan couldn't finish from 3 metres out.
Let's hope Vardy is raring to go when he gets back.

It was to change formation from 4-5-1 to 4-4-2. Ricardo moved to right wing.
 
My thoughts exactly - it signalled we were happy with a 1-2 defeat ( or concede again) as Amartey would never be expected to score or provide an assist.
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You are quite wrong about Puel being happy with a defeat. Throughout the game he was demanding the team be more positive. I was surprised at the substitution but it certainly was not the message Puel was sending to his players.
 
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