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PFKAKTF FOX said:
No that the alledged kidnapper took Madeline in the same car that her parents would then hire 5 weeks later !!!
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Ahhh yes i get you.

Surely more believable than her own parents killing her, then one day after visiting the pope the same parents that are being watched by the whole world putting her body into a car and driving her to another area without being seen.
 
It would be interesting to find out exactly when the last time anyone saw Maddie alive apart from the parents.

The day of 3 May

It was the day before the family – Gerry, Kate, Madeleine, three, and two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie – were due to return to Rothley in Leicestershire. Kate McCann said later that Madeleine called it "her best day ever". There are conflicting reports over the last confirmed sighting of Madeleine outside. One report yesterday suggested it was as early as 2.30pm. Another report said that no one has emerged publicly to say that they saw her after 6pm. Yet another said police were focusing on the time after 8pm. There are also conflicting reports over what the couple did. One report said they spent several hours together resting in the apartment. Another that Gerry McCann went to play tennis at 6.30pm.

Bedtime

Every night, say the McCanns, they would put the children down at 7pm-7.30pm, and at an unknown time leave them sleeping in the apartment. At 8.30pm on 3 May, they arrived for a meal at a nearby tapas bar with their friends. They chose not to use the resort's crèche or a babysitter. The apartment's French windows are believed to have been unlocked. There have been unsubstantiated suggestions that the McCanns sedated Madeleine, who was sometimes difficult at bedtime, and allegations that a syringe was found in the apartment. The family deny that. They say there was a dropper, used to give medicine to kids, and agree they sometimes gave the mild infant painkiller Calpol to the children. Reports, never denied, that the McCanns' younger children did not wake in all the commotion after the raising of the alarm has fed suspicions that they might have been sedated. One piece of circumstantial evidence is the claim of a barman in Lagos, five miles away, that he saw the McCanns in the town one night without their children. The McCanns deny this

The tapas bar

This is about 70 yards from the apartment, further than the 40 yards claimed by the McCanns' relatives in the early days of the disappearance. The apartment's French windows may have been visible from the tapas bar, a crying child in the flat would have been out of earshot. The McCanns arrived at the bar at 8.30pm, earlier according to some reports, and there were seven others in their party: Russell O'Brien and his wife, Jane Tanner, who have two young children; Matthew Oldfield, a doctor, and his wife, Rachael; Dr Fiona Payne and her husband, David, a senior research fellow at University of Leicester; and Mrs Payne's mother, Dianne Webster. One report in Portugal suggested the group got through 14 bottles of wine. The party says it was no more than three shared by nine adults.

Checks on the children

Gerry McCann was the first parent to check on the children, at 9pm. Matthew Oldfield listened outside at about 9.30pm. Jane Tanner, late leaving her apartment for dinner because one of her children was ill, said she saw a man carrying a child in his arms in the vicinity of the McCann apartment at 9.15pm, but thought nothing of it at the time. Gerry McCann returned to the restaurant at 9.25pm, having stopped to talk to an acquaintance, who confirmed this. A woman in a nearby apartment said that she had heard Madeleine crying for her parents for long periods, but she was unable to say on which nights. The next person to check the children was Kate McCann, at 10pm. She found Madeleine missing and ran back to the tapas bar, screaming, according to Gerry McCann's sister Trish Cameron, "They've taken her! They've taken her!" The odd use of the plural pronoun, if accurately reported, has raised eyebrows, and has not been explained away. Police also want to know why she assumed Madeleine had been abducted rather than wandered off.
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And another thing, leaving them alone for one night was totally irresponsible but EVERY night?
Some people have no rights being parents if they treat responsiblity of having them in such an offhand way.
 
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PFKAKTF FOX said:
No that the alledged kidnapper took Madeline in the same car that her parents would then hire 5 weeks later !!!
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That Murat bloke hired a car, it was reported early on.
Imagine the coincidence if it was the same car!
Be like winning the lottery!

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I dont like the way the media is ignoring the fact that they left their kids alone in a foreighn country while they were having dinner with friends. I am not saying they did it but i doubt Portugeses police would make up evidence just so it looks like they have done there job.

And why were the other 2 children left in the room if someone did brake in and take her?
 
beaumontfox said:
From Sky News tonight:

Sky crime correspondent Martin Brunt, speaking from Portimao, said police were "adamant" they had found the most "damning" evidence yet implicating either one or both of the McCanns in their daughter's death.

The evidence came in blood samples returned from the Forensic Science Service in Birmingham.

"Police say it is the most damning evidence that has been returned by the tests," Brunt said.

"It shows, as far as they are concerned, the presence of Madeleine's body in the car five weeks after she disappeared."

He continued: "The evidence suggests very strongly that it was not that her DNA had been transferred from clothing or from a cuddly toy."
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Unanswered Questions: - Get in John Nettles :icon_roll

Murder :018:
If your going to kill your kid why not take it to a cliff or water and say it was an accident! So much easier and harder to prove it wasn't an accident.

Accident :018:
So if it was an accident then why cover it up, say it was an accident.

Abuse :102:
Maybe they were heavy in to dicipline and beat her, hence the blood, then she hit her head and died, they panicked. More likey than an accident.

Missing :confused:
Why would you take her? PF's may have snatched her to order but why the blood? Has anyone asked if Madaline cut herself on the holiday. That could have got onto something else and ended up in the car? Also was the blood in the boot or the car itself?

Straight faced:
Find an expect who can tell if their body language shows they are lying during thier media sessions.
That will probably be unconclusive too:confused: I am

Basically has anyone got a clue? ;)
 
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bocadillo said:
Portuguese police have just given a statement saying that the DNA in the car boot was "from bodily fluids, not blood, and a quantity of hair that was too large to have been from a blanket.
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Norfolkfox said:
Missing :confused:
Why would you take her? PF's may have snatched her to order but why the blood? Has anyone asked if Madaline cut herself on the holiday. That could have got onto something else and ended up in the car? Also was the blood in the boot or the car itself?

Basically has anyone got a clue? ;)
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see above

do you read the thread before posting :102:
 
newtonfox said:
see above

do you read the thread before posting :102:
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Bit harsh Newts.

It's 350 posts long and people are just posting the same unfounded shite over and over again. It would take a serious idiot to read that lot.
 
Melton Fox said:
Bit harsh Newts.

It's 350 posts long and people are just posting the same unfounded shite over and over again. It would take a serious idiot to read that lot.
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Thanks Melton - The Fluids news I've only just heard of. Some of us work for a living :icon_cool
 
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