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[DesertFox]

I'm fairly surprised at the anti-Dublin vibes that are often evident on here. I'm not exactly his biggest fan as a player, but I see no reason why he can't go on to be a decent manager. Not now (for us, anyway), but maybe in the future. He's bright and articulate for a footballer, he's worked under several top class managers (and a few duffers) and most have said what an influence he can be in the dressing room. Are these not the general ingredients for at least a shot at management?

As for the "Leicester Till I Die stuff"... let's be honest: professional footballers can't really be fans like we are. Very few spend their whole careers at one club. They tend to be too busy on Saturdays to attend matches! And at what point could Dion have signed for Leicester? Only if a) the then Leicester manager wanted him and b) the then Leicester manager could have afforded him. Neither of which happened until a couple of years ago, when the guy jumped at the chance to come here. Maybe it was the shrewd, cynical move some of our conspiracy theorists seem to think it was. But... just think... maybe it wasn't

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big fan of his, but I don't dislike him particularly either. He's coming to the end of his career so obviously he's not going to be the same player he was ten years ago. That said, he was one of our better players last season which tells you that he has something to offer other than potential, youth, lots of running around (like headless chicken), etc, which the rest of our squad has in spades. With a squad full of youngsters, an older head is vital: that's why he's still here. It's not as if he plays week in week out, pissing off the hysterical types by taking the place of an over-hyped 17 year old.

Comparing him to Walshie - well, I don't want to slag Walla off as he is still one of my big heros, but if I was a club chairman I'd much rather take a chance on Dion as a manager than Steve, as I don't think (from having a vague aquaintance with him about ten years ago) he's the sort of person that would make it as a manager. Dion probably will.

Walshie, whilst he may be a Leicester fan to some extent, certainly used to be more of a Wigan fan, which is where he came from. That probably did change over the time he was with us, but if he'd have been given that opportunity to talk to Spurs when they were interested in signing him, I bet he'd have buggered off without thinking twice. Look at the former players we know are GENUINE, THROUGH AND THROUGH CITY FANS - I can think of a couple who put their money where there mouth is recently... Emile Heskey and Gary Lineker. Neither player was a chest thumping, badge-kissing type, yet these are the players who really cared when we needed it most, whilst some fans think the heart-on-the-sleeve types are the real loyal ones. That's purely down to personality on the pitch and doesn't really say anything about a player's true love of a club. No doubt Robbie Savage played with the same passion and commitment on his Brum debut as he did for us - proves nothing.

Like I said, I just don't get this anti-Dublin stuff. I sometimes wonder if it's because he's black

 

[leicester_til_i_die]

Dublin is an influence in the dressing room, so if the board are willing to risk it with him why not, or maybe bring someone in to be manager, like Terry venables (not saying him but using him as an example for experience etc) and have him as assistant to learn from.

 

[Leigh]

Like I said, I just don't get this anti-Dublin stuff. I sometimes wonder if it's because he's black

I don't like fake people. I don't like when fake people are lauded for being fantastic. Dublin to me is a fake person, he acts as if he loves the club when he doesn't, which leads people to give him huge praise that he doesn't deserve. I didn't like Freund shaking his fist and pretending to be all committed when he wasn't either, and he is white . Dublin was also total crap last season, and has been mostly crap this season and yet people are still calling him player of the season, why? Because he comes from Leicester? The same thing happened with people like Wright and Heath, because they were from Leicester people made out that they were the best players ever when they clearly weren't. That is why I don't like him.

Oh, and the rumblings that he's been undermining the manager do him no favours either. If we are going to throw away all hope on someone who hasn't managed before I'd pick Walshie every time, at least you know he'd give them a smack in the dressing room after a defeat.

 

[Bilborough Fox]

Just listened to a replay of the phone in (yes i am that bored at work) and i heard THE most ridiculous statement ever - and no, i'm not talking about the moron who suggested Wise as manager.

Some caller said 'where's dubo'. a perfectly fair comment perhaps, but he then went on to say that Dublin is Leicester through and through and just like Steve Walsh (legend,god,hero,superstar) if you cut in half he would be Leicester to the core...

Do me a favour. What exactly has Dublin done for us since he signed. apart from a, at best, half decent second half to last season he has done fcuk all. am i the only one who's not buying this 'Dion is a true Leicester man etc.etc bullshit". The guy should never have signed for us. He's clearly never been the same player, quite understandably i might add, since he broke his neck. as a defender we have MUCH MUCH better, Paddy, Gerrbrand, Stearman and as a striker he is now well past his best. Don't see what use he has to the team in the slightest. and if he's such a Leicester man why the hell did it take him so long to find his way back here.

Don't ever let me hear anyone in their right mind seriously ever put Stevie Walsh and Dion Dublin, or any of the current squad for that matter in the same sentence again, it's a fcuking disgrace.

Fully agree. No more to said. Dublin only came here to see his time out and fill his wallet. Walshie was a true blue legend that didn't need a case made out on his behalf, his action were enough.

 

[Chrysalis]

there is kelly as well, dublin obviously wouldnt be working on his own so my suggestion would be assuming there is someone with experience alongside him, like I said he is way down my picking order but would still be preffered over levein. There are many instances where a caretaker manager who has never managed a first team before has been thrown into the fray so to speak and has had a positive impact, you really think its hard to improve on W 0 D 2 L6 on a 8 game record?

 

[webmaster]

Neither of which happened until a couple of years ago, when the guy jumped at the chance to come here. Maybe it was the shrewd, cynical move some of our conspiracy theorists seem to think it was. But... just think... maybe it wasn't

I don't know what his motive was for coming here, but IF he's a Leicester supporter, he's changed his team

He's on record as saying he was a West Brom supporter when he was growing up, because at that time they were one of the few teams with black players, and they inspired him.

 

[yorkthorpe]

Dublin is an influence in the dressing room, so if the board are willing to risk it with him why not, or maybe bring someone in to be manager, like Terry venables (not saying him but using him as an example for experience etc) and have him as assistant to learn from.


if dublin was an influence in the dressing room, how come it has'nt worked so far, surely if he cared about our club he would be helping even with levein being the coach.

 

[DesertFox]

he acts as if he loves the club when he doesn't.

You have no idea if that is true or not, you're just assuming. Also, name me one player who publicly acts if he doesnt love the club...

which leads people to give him huge praise

Do they? Who? I mostly hear him being slagged off.

Dublin was also total crap last season

He was less crap than all bar one or two, so why pick him out?

and has been mostly crap this season

Again, there have been far worse performers this season; why single out one player?

and yet people are still calling him player of the season, why?

Keith Gellispie was the player of last season. I don't think anyone is calling him player of the season this season, are they? Dion did come out on top of a poll on here earleir in the season though (despite being "mostly crap"). People have short memories...

The same thing happened with people like Wright and Heath, because they were from Leicester people made out that they were the best players ever when they clearly weren't.

Who the hell said Matt Heath and Tommy Wright were the best players ever???! I seem to remember Heath was generally thought to be fairly poor all along by the majority of posters on here, and I was one of the first to say that Wright was no where near good enough, and I got a load of shit for it - only his name made him appear good to a few disillusioned people for a while before reality set in.

Rumblings that he's been undermining the manager do him no favours either.

They are just that: rumblings, rumours. No substance that I know of. The same thing seems to happen at every club with every "senior" player when things aren't going right.

If we are going to throw away all hope on someone who hasn't managed before I'd pick Walshie every time, at least you know he'd give them a smack in the dressing room after a defeat.

Walshie just isn't management material for me. He hasn't got the brain for it and isn't anywhere like as demonstrative off the field as he is on it. He's playing golf in Spain - not ideal preparation for management, is it? And if your idea of man management is sleeping with other players' wives.....

Like I said before, I'm not a big fan of Dion Dublin per se, but I don't get why he is singled out for criticism quite as much as he is.

All in all Leigh, I think we'd better agree to disagree, don't you? :icon_wink

 

[DesertFox]

I don't know what his motive was for coming here, but IF he's a Leicester supporter, he's changed his team

He's on record as saying he was a West Brom supporter when he was growing up, because at that time they were one of the few teams with black players, and they inspired him.

I never actually said he was a Leicester supporter Webbo....

 

[webmaster]

I never actually said he was a Leicester supporter Webbo....

I didn't say you did!


But there are people who believe he is, and people who think playing for Leicester means more to him than his other clubs, and I don't know if there's any truth in that.

But I'm not one of those people who thinks he's totally useless. He's not good enough as a striker any more, but in some of the games this season where he's played at the back I think he's played well.

 

[Dunc]

I didn't say you did!


But there are people who believe he is, and people who think playing for Leicester means more to him than his other clubs, and I don't know if there's any truth in that.

But I'm not one of those people who thinks he's totally useless. He's not good enough as a striker any more, but in some of the games this season where he's played at the back I think he's played well.

He's okay for 70mins then his legs go and he can't run or jump which has meant we've lost goals and games as a result. eg. Stoke.

 

[Naughty Fox]

I think you can say that certain players get 'picked on' by fans because they have come here with certain reputations and if they are not living upto them that is when people get on thier backs.
Players like Paddy M, have come here from a prem clubs reserves, we do not know alot about him and has been showing some fighting spirit and playing quite well, so he is praised alot and if he makes a mistake he gets criticised but not crucified (?) like some. Now Dion, Tiatto, Williams e.c.t have signed for us carrying reputations with them, some bigger than others and for whatever reason they have not delivered what is expected from them so get slated.
Dion IMO has not been that bad, but I did expect alot more from him, o.k he is at the end of his career, but so was Sir Les and look what impact he had when he was here!
Football players at the end of the day are doing a job and most do not have emotional ties to a club like the fans do. Even Sir Gary has been quoted as saying he never had any serious interest in LCFC whilst he was a player and it has not been until he retired from the game that he became a fan. I know a f*rest player from the 60's-70's and he still can not believe how fans are when supporting 'thier' team, he is a football fan but not of any particular team, he just enjoys good football and sees the game completely differently from me.
Just one thing that he did say to me (for all of those that have said that when a player is booed they should be big enough to get over it) it can destroy a player, he remembers being in the dressing room when the teams were announced and he hadn't had the best couple of games and after his name a few of the fans booed, he said his heart sank and did not help his frame of mind at all.

 

[Willlow]

he remembers being in the dressing room when the teams were announced and he hadn't had the best couple of games and after his name a few of the fans booed, he said his heart sank and did not help his frame of mind at all.

:icon_eek: Nearly all the names on our team list get booed! No wonder we are struggling!

 

[highland fox]

:icon_eek: Nearly all the names on our team list get booed! No wonder we are struggling!

They are human beings and many do get affected by the boos IMO

 

[Willlow]

They are human beings and many do get affected by the boos IMO

I agree some dont even deserved to get booed in my opinion MDV and Rab to name two!

 

[Yorkshire Vixen]

but the other 9 do?!? :icon_bigg

 

[Willlow]

but the other 9 do?!? :icon_bigg

I dont think you should boo your own team ever but i can understand the frustration with players like Sylla!

Fans have a go at the players for not caring about the team but why would they when all they get is booed and slagged off! :icon_roll and dont give me that rubbish about because they get paid to! Does anybody here give 100% whilst at their work? and we dont have anyone shouting how crap we are and booing us!...Well i dont anyway :icon_lol:

 

[1966]

With more backing from the fans for all of our players we would be higher up the table IMO. Not promotion candidates but stable none the less.

I do not believe this is the case with all teams either, I think that the better teams over time are successfull to some degree because they have more supportive fans.

 

[Naughty Fox]

I agree some dont even deserved to get booed in my opinion MDV and Rab to name two!

Rab is a good example of reputations, I have not been that impressed with him at all because I expect alot more from a player that has been an international and played in alot of 'big' games.
If Henderson was given a go I would probably expect him to be playing about the same as Rab, but IMO I do not think he would get as much stick if he made a mistake because he isn't a 'name' player.

 

[lazzer]

for willow

boooooooooo call yourself health and safety your crap get off my grandma could do a better job than you and she's been dead twenty years your not fit to wear the shirt and tie he's rubbish get him out the office booooo