FIF
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We tried the same thing against Atleti but failed. I just checked Manure had 10 shots and 5 on target. We don't have that in the majority of our "attacking games".
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We tried the same thing against Atleti but failed. I just checked Manure had 10 shots and 5 on target. We don't have that in the majority of our "attacking games".
Cambridge_fox
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Jesus FIF, are you going out of your way to make everyone hate you? You make good points, but most of the time it's mixed up with aggravating comments such as this. Start being a little more positive. It looks like we're not getting relegated in what has been a tricky season. Let's get back to the topic in hand.
FIF
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come on CF. 10 shots and 5 on target away from home in a European SF is hardly parking the bus is it?
pork pie fox
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City Fan
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It's called "trolling".
Cambridge_fox
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I think it's more subtle than that as FIF does make some reasoned arguments from time-to-time.
Do you actually watch our games?
Our "attacking games" are usually our home games. I've just looked at the stats for our home games since Shakespeare took over. We had at least ten shots in each of those games, and only once failed to have five on target, against Sevilla when we got four on target.
FIF
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Manure's match was away in the semi-final of a European Cup. Instead of picking me up you'd be better advised to question how 10 shots and 5 on target in that situation is parking the bus.
FIF
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Can you please tell me how many games all season that we have had 10 shots or more with at least 50% on target.
No.
Where does the 50% on target come in to it? A team can play attacking football and have 20 shots, but none on target. It doesn't mean they're parking the bus.
If you're going to make a claim based on statistics, you should be the one providing the evidence, or people will think you're making it up.
FIF
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This is where the 50% shots on target come into it. Both of my first two statements on the subject.
Mourinho didn't park the bus. His team attacked, scored and won the away leg of an European Semi-final. We have rarely attacked so well this season as your failure to provide "statistics" confirms.
We have often parked the bus and hoped for a breakaway miracle goal and failed. Last season we were more successful. I'm not denigrating Leicester City, I'm supporting José.
Just checked our most similar game. First leg european QF away. We had 7 shots with 0 on target. We parked the bus and unfortunately lost.
FIF
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10 shots, 5 on target - that's 50% in my world.
It is. But you didn't say the fact that 50% of them being on target was in any way relevant to anything, until later.
Did you move the goalposts, as you often do, because you knew your initial point was wrong?
There's no point arguing with you any more about this. You'll make up stats, and then change your mind about what you meant when you're proved wrong, and then start arguing about something else once you realise you can't win.
FIF
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Or you could just admit that you misunderstood and now realise that 5 out of 10 is 50%.
Motown Fox
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Blimey I make one glib comment and all hell breaks loose.
Possibly seeing the game out as Manure were doing gave the impression they were parking the bus to some extent and I didn't watch the whole game tbh. Although they were getting everyone behind the ball, but that's the type of thing a team does when 1-0 up in the away first leg of a European tie.
But it certainly didn't sound like an entertaining game. Jose did enough so that Manure have the advantage going back to Old Trafford.
I was perhaps having a dig at their tactics, when United fans for years have always gone on about the expansive footy they play, when they clearly don't.
Possibly seeing the game out as Manure were doing gave the impression they were parking the bus to some extent and I didn't watch the whole game tbh. Although they were getting everyone behind the ball, but that's the type of thing a team does when 1-0 up in the away first leg of a European tie.
But it certainly didn't sound like an entertaining game. Jose did enough so that Manure have the advantage going back to Old Trafford.
I was perhaps having a dig at their tactics, when United fans for years have always gone on about the expansive footy they play, when they clearly don't.
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| P | Pld | Pts | |
| 1 | Liverpool | 21 | 50 |
| 2 | Arsenal | 22 | 44 |
| 3 | Nottm F | 22 | 44 |
| 4 | Chelsea | 22 | 40 |
| 5 | Manchester C | 22 | 38 |
| 6 | Newcastle | 22 | 38 |
| 7 | Bournemouth | 22 | 37 |
| 8 | Aston Villa | 22 | 36 |
| 9 | Brighton | 22 | 34 |
| 10 | Fulham | 22 | 33 |
| 11 | Brentford | 22 | 28 |
| 12 | Palace | 22 | 27 |
| 13 | Manchester U | 22 | 26 |
| 14 | West Ham | 22 | 26 |
| 15 | Tottenham | 22 | 24 |
| 16 | Everton | 21 | 20 |
| 17 | Wolves | 22 | 16 |
| 18 | Ipswich | 22 | 16 |
| 19 | Leicester | 22 | 14 |
| 20 | Southampton | 22 | 6 |
