Oh no - not the Tigers

[Steven]

Tigers are only renting - I think.

Discussions are taking place with the governing bodies for football and rugby, and between Leicester Tigers and the city council to agree a satisfactory financial settlement for the surrender of Tigers' lease on the Welford Road site

 

[Redditch Fox]

i'd like to see some numbers from the club...

how much rent are they paying on the stadium now?

how much would they pay per year on a (say) 25 year mortgage to own it 50%?

they use artificial pitches for american football and they hold up really well, and look and 'feel' (apparently) like very good grass surfaces.

i always thought a ground share was inevitable at some time in the future.

SamJ

Yes - everyone knows it makes no economic sense to just use the playing area for a commercial activity (forget the reserves) for 25 occcasions per annum - its just a matter of sustaining a decent playing surface.

Providing that can be done this is much better than a groundshare with an alien and competing soccer club. That would be horrible. But this is all Leicester & it is excellent and should have a financial spin off to the benefit of both clubs.

 

[EMC Fox]

I must admit - I'm coming round to the idea... what does it matter what colour the seats are or who owns the ground... when there's 32,500 association football fans there it will be blue anyway.

If it means us having a chance of raising funds to speed our return to the Premiership under CL then why not?

Maybe at some stage in the next 10 years the Walkers Super Stadium will see European competition for both clubs and why can't we ALL look forward to that?

I know rugby crowds are frowned upon by certain sections of our fans... but we can learn a lot from the way they stand shoulder to shoulder with opposing fans and enjoy their sport.

I'm going to give it time to sink in properly and see what comes out of both clubs as plans advance.

 

[bonehead]

Good post EMC. But you are far too open minded for the likes of the moronic majority on this board.

You raise an interesting issue about the way rugger fans stand shoulder to shoulder. Would you believe it - it was like this in football (and the old filbo was outstanding in this respect) too until the mid sixties?

Remember the Wycombe game and how the old Kop applauded them off the field? It was like that for very game in the '50's and most during the '60's. Marvellous (Ron Manager)!

I remember taking my then wee brother to see us against Southampton in 1968. We won 3-1 and their goal, a good effort from outside the box, was applauded by all in the old popular terrace (later the East Stand). All, that is, except for my brother who embarrassed me by booing.

I was promptly ordered to sort him out! Amazing!

 

[Redditch Fox]

it was bound to happen. the bowl isn't our home anyway, it's soul-less, filbo is where we live...

why not give the grace road boys a shout to play there too? the riders could use the evenings too!

Why not play 20:20 there - the only problem is that the playing surface is not big enough -the only ground where that used to happen is of course Bramall Lane and it meant that one stand was about 50 yards detached from the (soccer) playing area.

Otherwise -it would be ok.

 

[MKFox]

they could use the beach cricket set i use with the small MK's, but someone will have to cry when they're out.

 

[webmaster]

Why not play 20:20 there - the only problem is that the playing surface is not big enough -the only ground where that used to happen is of course Bramall Lane and it meant that one stand was about 50 yards detached from the (soccer) playing area.

Sheff U wasn't the only ground - Northampton was similar - there are probably others too.

 

[The voice of reason]

Good post EMC. But you are far too open minded for the likes of the moronic majority on this board.

You raise an interesting issue about the way rugger fans stand shoulder to shoulder. Would you believe it - it was like this in football (and the old filbo was outstanding in this respect) too until the mid sixties?

Remember the Wycombe game and how the old Kop applauded them off the field? It was like that for very game in the '50's and most during the '60's. Marvellous (Ron Manager)!

I remember taking my then wee brother to see us against Southampton in 1968. We won 3-1 and their goal, a good effort from outside the box, was applauded by all in the old popular terrace (later the East Stand). All, that is, except for my brother who embarrassed me by booing.

I was promptly ordered to sort him out! Amazing!

Well said bonehead. I remember those days at football too. You could even drink in the pub with the oppo's after the game and the colour of your shirt didn't matter. Sad that it's all changed - I wonder why? Thankfully you can still do that with rugby

 

[chrislcfc18]

So does anyone think there will be a protest at Saturdays game??

 

[bonehead]

Nostalgic, heady stuff Voice of Reason. Where did it all go wrong? Select from: ending of conscription, development of tribal youth cultures (mods & rockers etc), single parent families, lack of school discipline, lack of male role models in the school and work environment, unemployment and collapse of the old working class cultures in home and the work place, general coarsening of popular culture.

Be interested in your ideas on the matter VOR.

 

[Redditch Fox]

Why not play 20:20 there - the only problem is that the playing surface is not big enough -the only ground where that used to happen is of course Bramall Lane and it meant that one stand was about 50 yards detached from the (soccer) playing area.

Sheff U wasn't the only ground - Northampton was similar - there are probably others too.

Quite so - Northampton, I'd forgotten.

However, I doubt if there are others -I've thought through the 18 first class counties and can't think of any others.

 

[webmaster]

Why not play 20:20 there - the only problem is that the playing surface is not big enough -the only ground where that used to happen is of course Bramall Lane and it meant that one stand was about 50 yards detached from the (soccer) playing area.

Sheff U wasn't the only ground - Northampton was similar - there are probably others too.

Quite so - Northampton, I'd forgotten.

However, I doubt if there are others -I've thought through the 18 first class counties and can't think of any others.

Leicester Fosse shared with Leicestershire CCC for a period before moving to Filbert Street.

 

[Redditch Fox]

Why not play 20:20 there - the only problem is that the playing surface is not big enough -the only ground where that used to happen is of course Bramall Lane and it meant that one stand was about 50 yards detached from the (soccer) playing area.

Sheff U wasn't the only ground - Northampton was similar - there are probably others too.

Quite so - Northampton, I'd forgotten.

However, I doubt if there are others -I've thought through the 18 first class counties and can't think of any others.

Leicester Fosse shared with Leicestershire CCC for a period before moving to Filbert Street.

At Grace Road? -if I remember correctly Leicestershire played at Grace Road then moved to the Electricity Ground (Aylestone Road) & then moved back to Grace Road -I certainly recall up to the mid fifties Grace Road being used for schools football & the outfield being a mess because of it.

 

[Redditch Fox]

Good post EMC. But you are far too open minded for the likes of the moronic majority on this board.

I remember taking my then wee brother to see us against Southampton in 1968. We won 3-1 and their goal, a good effort from outside the box, was applauded by all in the old popular terrace (later the East Stand).
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"The Popular SIDE" please!

 

[step]

The board are trying to do something that will help the club to be more successfull and so far the main objection seams to be "Green seats"
Amazing,

I do not understand the objection to sharing the ground. It has to be better for city.

LCFC will own 50% of the ground
It will give us better long term security.
All the fixed costs ie: Repayments, rates and ground maintenance will be shared.
More money for both clubs to spend on players.
We wont have to suffer the parking problems that happen when both clubs play at the same time.

The only problems that I can think of are:
The damage that is done to the pitch
The scheduling of matches
Convincing the fans from two different sporting cultures that the ground sharing can be to everyones advantage
Loss of identity

The pitch is going to be modified so it can withstand the grief rugby gives it. I doubt it will be a artificial pitch, there is a turf that is made up of a matrix of polimer strips and real grass that is more durable than grass

The scheduling of the matches is not a problem.

The hardest problem will be dealing with the fans from both clubs and if the clubs are to win the support of ther fans they must communicate the plans clearly to the fans

New ground, new identity and combining the tigers and city can only strengthen it.

People always react in the same way to change. Firstly they object to it happening, then they find the reasons why they object. The problem is never the change itself, its the fear of the unknown that causes all the problems and the objections. Once we understand how they propose the ground sharing to work and the pro's and cons, then deciede if it is good or bad.

I can see the future headlines "LCFC in administration again because fans dont like green seats"

God. help us

 

[PEN3]

I think that this is an excellent idea. I've been a City fan for more than 25 years, and I have followed Tigers as well ,albeit that I only went to my first game at Welford road last year. I must admit the atmosphere at tigers is far friendlier - I sat next to a Harlequins fan and we watched the game applauding good rugby whichever side it came from. I must admit I have more of a desire to see the Tigers ( a successful sports team) than the motley crew assembeld by the Adams and co. If Mickey was still around, he would be signing Martin Johnson to play at the back with Neil Back linking up with Jordan Stewart!

 

[webmaster]

Why not play 20:20 there - the only problem is that the playing surface is not big enough -the only ground where that used to happen is of course Bramall Lane and it meant that one stand was about 50 yards detached from the (soccer) playing area.

Sheff U wasn't the only ground - Northampton was similar - there are probably others too.

Quite so - Northampton, I'd forgotten.

However, I doubt if there are others -I've thought through the 18 first class counties and can't think of any others.

Leicester Fosse shared with Leicestershire CCC for a period before moving to Filbert Street.

At Grace Road? -if I remember correctly Leicestershire played at Grace Road then moved to the Electricity Ground (Aylestone Road) & then moved back to Grace Road -I certainly recall up to the mid fifties Grace Road being used for schools football & the outfield being a mess because of it.

It was Aylestone Road - but I don't know where on Aylestone Road. It was in the 1890s, which is a little bit before my time.

 

[The voice of reason]

Nostalgic, heady stuff Voice of Reason. Where did it all go wrong? Select from: ending of conscription, development of tribal youth cultures (mods & rockers etc), single parent families, lack of school discipline, lack of male role models in the school and work environment, unemployment and collapse of the old working class cultures in home and the work place, general coarsening of popular culture.

Be interested in your ideas on the matter VOR.

Tough one. Football has obviously been the growth national sport for a number of years and I think it was used as a target audience for those keen to cause trouble. Think back to the way this country was going in the early/mid 70's. With strikes, unemployment, increased racism etc. Those most inclined to use "subversive" measures to get across their views picked football because of it's mass appeal and the "class" of supporter. (sorry to use the class word but I can't think of a better one here!). I was primarily a football follower in those days so I can't speak for other sports, but I suspect they didn't have the same problems. And they don't seem to now either. I think this means we agree!! It was this that finally stopped me going to games in the early 80's, and in those days I followed my team everywhere.
Rugby has been my main sport for some years now and I don't see these problems (generally). You obviously get the odd "idiot" but it tends to be quickly sorted out as some of these rugger types are a bit big! I would welcome football going back to the good old days where you could mix with the opposition but recent events in Spain and at Blackburn suggest otherwise. Still, we live in hope

 

[East Anglia Fox]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

Egg chasing losers

What a great way to describe rugby!

One of the best jokes I've seen on here

 

[The voice of reason]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

Egg chasing losers

You'll obviously be aware of what a loser is given the emptiness of your trophy cabinet