own up thread....

[homer]

sorry to be pedantic, but i can't see how you can use natural/unnatural as a personal adjective

either it relates to nature or you

if you mean you've never felt like gay sex, fairy nuff

if you mean you've never felt like gay sex, therefore it's unnatural and wrong for all, then bollocks

What the fook are you on about ? :icon_roll

 

[Feriol]

sorry to be pedantic, but i can't see how you can use natural/unnatural as a personal adjective

either it relates to nature or you

if you mean you've never felt like gay sex, fairy nuff

if you mean you've never felt like gay sex, therefore it's unnatural and wrong for all, then bollocks

Your own explaination highlighted that nature affects us all in different ways. Whether its on the X chromosome, or through testerone levels, or not, as in my case, is down to nature surely? Or are you suggesting that these are unnatural mutations?

 

[highland fox]

Your own explaination highlighted that nature affects us all in different ways. Whether its on the X chromosome, or through testerone levels, or not, as in my case, is down to nature surely? Or are you suggesting that these are unnatural mutations?

:icon_conf Do you prefer the Funnel or the tunnel thats all we need to know

 

[Melton Fox]

**** chromosomes and all that bollox. If you want to shag blokes you will, if you don't, you won't.

We all make personal choices in life, they don't all need analyzing.

 

[Feriol]

:icon_conf Do you prefer the Funnel or the tunnel thats all we need to know

I'v already answered that question. but the particulars of my answer were being questioned.

To save you going back: The Tunnel

 

[Darth Vodka]

Your own explaination highlighted that nature affects us all in different ways. Whether its on the X chromosome, or through testerone levels, or not, as in my case, is down to nature surely? Or are you suggesting that these are unnatural mutations?

if you are defining unnatural as manmade...

then gayness is natural, it's been around for a long time and it's not exclusive to humans

it's a survival technique for genes

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6519

actually this is different to the theories i have read before...maybe there's a few reasons

 

[Darth Vodka]

**** chromosomes and all that bollox. If you want to shag blokes you will, if you don't, you won't.

We all make personal choices in life, they don't all need analyzing.

your sexuality isn't a choice

 

[Melton Fox]

your sexuality isn't a choice

It can be, and I know people, (specifically a relly of mine) who have chosen their sexuality for a specific reason and are happy with that choice.

Note - That isn't open for scientific debate, it's a fact.

 

[Darth Vodka]

It can be, and I know people, (specifically a relly of mine) who have chosen their sexuality for a specific reason and are happy with that choice.

Note - That isn't open for scientific debate, it's a fact.

smoking kills
i know a smoker who got hit by a bus?

 

[Feriol]

if you are defining unnatural as manmade...

then gayness is natural, it's been around for a long time and it's not exclusive to humans

it's a survival technique for genes

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6519

i agree, but for me personally, physically, mentally and emotionally it is wrong. I do accept that for other people it is different. i can't claim to understand the differences in their bodies or minds, but i would not presume to say what anyone else should feel, or that i am better in any way.

 

[homer]

if you are defining unnatural as manmade...

then gayness is natural, it's been around for a long time and it's not exclusive to humans

it's a survival technique for genes

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6519

actually this is different to the theories i have read before...maybe there's a few reasons

But Camperio-Ciani calculates the contribution of this effect to male homosexuality at 7% at most. So together, he says, the “maternal” and “immune” effects only account for 21% of male homosexuality, leaving 79% of the causation still a mystery.

Such as socio-environmental factors - or indeed, personal choice/taste

 

[MKFox]

I'm sure having sex with me has turned some women into lesbos....

 

[Darth Vodka]

Such as socio-environmental factors - or indeed, personal choice/taste

testosterone in the womb is environmental and a major factor

choice may come into play if you're free to choose, have been living a lie and are perhaps in the middle. i'm not saying choice isn't involved, i'm saying it's nowhere near 100% which is what a lot of people think

 

[homer]

testosterone in the womb is environmental and a major factor

choice may come into play if you're free to choose, have been living a lie and are perhaps in the middle. i'm not saying choice isn't involved, i'm saying it's nowhere near 100% which is what a lot of people think

Well it could be as much as 79% - and therefore be a much greater influence than anything genetic

Your statement that your sexuality isn't a choice could therefore be complete and utter bollocks

 

[Darth Vodka]

i think we are being vague over the definition of being gay

are we defining it as having sex with someone the same sex regularly or somebody who wants to?

cos choice figures in the first...

 

[Darth Vodka]

btw

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/healthnews.php?newsid=45962

i quote

"The percentage of gay males is estimated to be around 3%, this probability can go up to 5% for males with several older brothers"

 

[Feriol]

i think we are being vague over the definition of being gay

are we defining it as having sex with someone the same sex regularly or somebody who wants to?

cos choice figures in the first...

would that make a difference as to whether you are homophobic?

 

[Melton Fox]

Is being gay about love or sex?

 

[Feriol]

Is being gay about love or sex?

tough question! is being 'straight' about love or sex?

I suppose I am somewhat different since i don't seperate the two?

Edit: rethink. actually i do view pornography so i do seperate the two. my first reading of the word sex was 'intercourse' with another person, but then realised 'sex' means more than that.

 

[Darth Vodka]

Is being gay about love or sex?

that one of your chat up lines from The Blue Oyster Bar?